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The Truth Wears Off (2010)

72 点作者 helloworld大约 7 年前

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hudibras大约 7 年前
By Jonah Lehrer, later fired for plagiarism and fabricating quotes. A Wired.com review of articles that he wrote for them said<p>&quot;Lehrer has a cavalier attitude about truth and falsehood. This shows not only in his attitude toward quotations but in some of the other details of his writing. And a journalist who repeatedly fails to correct errors when they&#x27;re pointed out is, in my opinion, exhibiting reckless disregard for the truth. It is thus my opinion that Lehrer plagiarized others&#x27; work, published inaccurate quotations, printed narrative details that were factually incorrect, and failed to address errors when they were pointed out.&quot;
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avsteele大约 7 年前
Feynman mentions the Rhine example in his cargo cult science lecture (<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.lockhaven.edu&#x2F;~dsimanek&#x2F;cargocul.htm" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.lockhaven.edu&#x2F;~dsimanek&#x2F;cargocul.htm</a>)<p>I think an even more interesting example, one that shows greater subtlety of these effects, is the trend in experimental measurements taken when performing the Millikan Oil drop experiment (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Oil_drop_experiment" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Oil_drop_experiment</a>).<p>This is also mentioned in Feynman&#x27;s lecture. I had a plot I can&#x27;t find now of the historical measures. It quite funny how the measurements trend slowly from Millikan&#x27;s value to the true one over time.
bkohlmann大约 7 年前
In my last year of business school, I took a class called Consumer behavior. It was easily one of my favorite courses and the professor was incredible.<p>But one day she wanted to prove a psychological insight about rating Coffee - namely that in blind taste tests, people can’t distinguish between $5&#x2F;lb coffee and $100&#x2F;lb coffee (she literally bought all types). We set up a blind tasting line and all rated the drinks after a sip or two. Then we submitted an o line poll.<p>Her mistake came in actually showing the results real time - they showed that we COULD tell the difference, even if subtly. She went on to explain, without looking at the screen, that we had just proven the theory right.<p>Now, it’s true that we could’ve been the “outlier” group that randomly aligned with the the ratings. But it shows that if our group had been the first to be tested all those year ago, the researcher may have stopped - who reports on what you expect?
klenwell大约 7 年前
Interesting that Jonah Lehrer is the author of this.<p>Here&#x27;s a more recent New York Times article about him that might be title, &quot;Does the Stigma Wear Off?&quot;:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;07&#x2F;12&#x2F;books&#x2F;a-fraud-jonah-lehrer-says-his-remorse-is-real.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;07&#x2F;12&#x2F;books&#x2F;a-fraud-jonah-lehre...</a><p>I don&#x27;t think this article was affected by his disgrace and I still like a lot of what he&#x27;s written. Still, in light of Lehrer&#x27;s own subsequent history, it&#x27;s hard not to read a certain ironic biographical significance into the final paragraph.
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darkerside大约 7 年前
All of the effects described in the article, despite the mystical tone, can be explained by regression to the mean, publication of outlying results, and confirmation bias in future publishings.
anon1253大约 7 年前
It was more or less the basis of my PhD in epidemiology that I dropped out of: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;joelkuiper.eu&#x2F;academic-publishing" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;joelkuiper.eu&#x2F;academic-publishing</a> (Most academic publishing isn&#x27;t academic (and how to deal with it))
hammock大约 7 年前
Ignoring all the ad hominem about Jonah Lehrer here -- I recall a number of other discussions on HN about how the scientific method and science are different, how something is broken, about the irreproducibility of studies, about reversion to the mean, etc. Don&#x27;t be distracted by who authored this piece.
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draw_down大约 7 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;thelastpsychiatrist.com&#x2F;2011&#x2F;02&#x2F;the_decline_effect_is_stupid.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;thelastpsychiatrist.com&#x2F;2011&#x2F;02&#x2F;the_decline_effect_i...</a>