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ThinkPad X1 Carbon 2018 review: The only laptop in a professional’s paradise

126 点作者 b5大约 7 年前

25 条评论

tbronchain大约 7 年前
I&#x27;ve been lurking at the X1 carbon for years, but now I&#x27;m finally considering getting one I can&#x27;t decide between the T480s this year!<p>On one side, the light weight and light size of the X1 is really appealing, on the other the larger ram, graphic chip and lower heat of the T480s makes it look like a wiser choice...<p>At this price, it is a hard decision. I unfortunately can&#x27;t get my hand on both machines before buying one in the part of the world I am in, did anyone had the chance to compare them both side by side? Is the difference of size&#x2F;weight noticeable in hand?<p>Another aspect is the display. The new 500nits HDR screen looks awesome, but I&#x27;ve been thinking a <i></i>mate<i></i>, 300nits display would be better for programming? I don&#x27;t think I have seen a mate screen on a laptop for years... Is it really better for outdoor use? Would it make sense to privilege it, even being 200nits lower?
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anon1253大约 7 年前
I &#x2F;just&#x2F; got mine in the mail (i7, 16GB, WQHD non-touch, non-IR webcam, 1TB SSD). My comparison is a 15&quot; Macbook Pro Retina (2014). Some initial impressions: Build quality is good, it feels solid yet light. Minor nitpick is that the screen doesn&#x27;t retain its position well if you hold it in your hand. I&#x27;m not known to be gentle with my equipment, and it gets thrown in bags, used in the freezing cold, etc; it&#x27;s a consumer device with limited life span, I know that going in. The trackpad is one of the best I&#x27;ve seen on a Windows laptop, but still no match for the Macbook (although could be my muscle memory). Also I love the aesthetics of the thing, it looks and feels professional and doesn&#x27;t have any of the frills &quot;gaming&quot; stuff usually has. There was only one Intel sticker, which I managed to peel off without residue (what&#x27;s up with those stickers...). The white backlit keyboard is a nice touch, which is overall amazing to type on. I still can&#x27;t deal with Windows though (it just feels so sloooow), but I&#x27;m reluctant to install Linux right now because of a bug in the trackpad drivers (it becomes unresponsive) if you have the NFC option (which I do). I&#x27;ll wait a couple more months for that to get sorted out. Right now I&#x27;m running Linux (Ubuntu 17.10) in VMWare Workstation 14, but that&#x27;s also very slow (noticeable input lag when typing or dragging windows). But that&#x27;s all software, I&#x27;m sure that will become better over time. The bad though: the audio quality is awful, I mean a 2014 Macbook Pro is bad ... but this is a whole new level. The case even vibrates&#x2F;resonates with the volume turned up a little bit, and the whole thing sounds like a tin can. Also it gets REALLY hot, as in uncomfortable to use on my lap. The fan curves probably could also use some tuning, it goes on and off often, which I dislike over a continuous sound and would probably help the thermals too. Although, I haven&#x27;t done any benchmarks yet to check for throttling. I was hoping it would replace my aging Macbook, but it&#x27;ll probably end up in a drawer until I squeeze the last bit of life out of a 2014 machine, which is in my opinion still the best laptop ever build. The new Macbooks are not really an option (even if I could justify the ridiculous costs) due to lack of USB type A&#x2F;B ports (which I need for astrophotography), and the annoying sound of the keyboard.
mehrdadn大约 7 年前
Not sure if the Carbon suffers from this, I&#x27;ve had awful Wi-Fi experience with ThinkPads (edit: same Wi-Fi module as in the Carbon). 5GHz connections just drop randomly and take a minute or two to be willing to reconnect. Pretty sure it&#x27;s not the AP&#x27;s problem since I&#x27;ve never had this problem with my USB Wi-Fi module connecting to the same network, only the built-in one. Anybody had a better experience (or know how to get a better experience)? I&#x27;m forever in shock at how they&#x27;ve let this happen without fixing it; it&#x27;s extremely frustrating.<p>EDIT 1: Judging from the quick upvotes I suspect I&#x27;m not alone... (but actually, this was obvious just from my earlier Googling).<p>EDIT 2: Funny, I&#x27;m getting downvotes now :-) confused what the message is, but whatever floats your boat!
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plouffy大约 7 年前
I&#x27;m reticent to get a ThinkPad because of Lenovo and it&#x27;s history of malware&#x2F;bloatware.
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speby大约 7 年前
Putting out a new professional-grade (and thinking developer-style laptop) in 2018 without at least a 24GB or 32GB RAM option is a non-starter in my mind. Apple is also notorious for this having had 16GB RAM be the maximum for literally years now.<p>For a lot of engineering work, where you may need to deal with virtualization and heavy duty tooling like IDEs (XCode, Visual Studio, etc), simulators (like the iOS Simulators or Android emulator), dozens of browser tabs, multiple browsers for testing and viewing, etc etc., 16GB of RAM just doesn&#x27;t cut it anymore.
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bitexploder大约 7 年前
An alternative: Dell 7520 line. Runs Linux nicely out of the box.<p>* No camera or mic is an option (I took it)<p>* No HiDPI display is an option (I took it)<p>* 32 GB ram<p>* 1TB very fast class of ssd<p>* Legit quad core Xeon<p>* Discrete GPU (decent)<p>* Real keyboard<p>* Charger is approximately size of an actual red brick (blah)<p>* Laptop is bulky<p>* I love it, best Linux and Laptop I have ever owned. Let&#x27;s just leave it tied with my 2015 MacBook.
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otalp大约 7 年前
Thinkpads are great, I just wish they&#x27;d update the design to make it look less 2006ish. Also a bigger trackpad with responsiveness that can compete with the macs. It&#x27;s been so many years, I don&#x27;t know why other manufacturers trackpads haven&#x27;t caught up with Apple&#x27;s trackpads. Even the XPS one is Meh. I think the surface book comes closest.
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davidzweig大约 7 年前
I had a T440s for a while. It had a very thin LCD cover, I don&#x27;t think it would have liked being sat on, the screen would be crushed down onto the trackpoint. Didn&#x27;t feel confident with it, went back to a X230, and still keep a rigid plate in my laptop sleeve on the screen side. Some of the older thinkpads had very robust screen covers (at least they looked that way), the T500 in particular, with some kind of honeycomb &#x27;rollcage&#x27; in the screen.<p>This machine might also have a funny SSD connector, that makes it difficult to upgrade. Maybe not.<p>Wish they would make a machine with a 3:2 screen.
quanto大约 7 年前
I am typing on an older X1 Carbon, and it truly is a pleasure to work with. The thinness of the chassis helps with ergonomics as you do not have to bend your wrist to place your hands on the keyboard. With the quality keys that ThinkPad is known for, I enjoy typing on this machine as much as I enjoy typing on Cherry&#x2F;Outemu mechanical keyboards.
common_大约 7 年前
Any experience on how well these things run Linux?
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zorkw4rg大约 7 年前
I switched to a Razer Blade Stealth, its around 400€ cheaper with the same specs except a QHD+ display (glossy, touch, 3200x1800). I&#x27;m wondering why Thinkpad only offers their WQHD (highest available resolution, 2560x1440) glossy? Also still no 4K&#x2F;QHD+ display, still no 32GB RAM support. I don&#x27;t really see much of a advantage anymore, they only reason for me to stay with thinkpad would&#x27;ve been the keyboard that is just fantastic in comparison with _any_ other manufacturer.<p>&#x2F;edit clarified resolution&#x2F; fixed grammar
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RaleyField大约 7 年前
Might be against terms but it pisses me the fuck off that Superfish[0] incident has been forgotten, by people that should know better. No, Ars Technica, it&#x27;s not professionals&#x27; paradise as long as it&#x27;s being produced by the same gangsters.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Superfish#Lenovo_security_incident" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Superfish#Lenovo_security_inci...</a>
vermaden大约 7 年前
<p><pre><code> &gt; Lenovo&#x27;s lightweight ThinkPad ticks all the boxes of a great work notebook. </code></pre> Except one, keyboard.<p>The ThinkPad 25 Anniversary Edition is the only real proffessional laptop available because it also has proffessionnal keyboard.
chendragon大约 7 年前
I&#x27;m wondering what the max sustained TDP of the CPU on this is like. On a MacBook Pro (13,2), the Intel processor package can pull 42-45W of power for an indefinitely long time without throttling down below that power level, even on batteries iirc. I&#x27;d hope that PC laptops get this at some point; this is one of the main reasons I still buy Mac
IdontRememberIt大约 7 年前
I have been using it for years. No complain except the screen. As a dev. I would prefer it to be 16&#x2F;10. I cannot understand the use case for a 16&#x2F;9 in the pro world. Little detail: when I wear a formal shirt, the sleeve tends to get &quot;stucked&quot; (due to the border having a high angle &quot;&gt;&quot; ).
4ad大约 7 年前
No 16:10 (or preferably even taller, like 4:3) screen, no buy.<p>I really wish there was an alternative for the 16:10 mac I am using now, but there isn&#x27;t anymore (apart from old ThinkPads, which I have many of[1]).<p>I tried some Microsoft Surface stuff but they felt very flimsy.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;lobste.rs&#x2F;s&#x2F;txuvvs&#x2F;lenovo_new_linux_desktop_experience#c_ujt6hj" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;lobste.rs&#x2F;s&#x2F;txuvvs&#x2F;lenovo_new_linux_desktop_experien...</a>
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speedplane大约 7 年前
Can someone explain to me why a ThinkPad is preferable to an XPS 15 besides nostalgia?
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homero大约 7 年前
How&#x27;s it still ddr3?
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qwerty456127大约 7 年前
Is there a convertible &quot;Yoga&quot;-kind version available?
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joeseeder大约 7 年前
I am a late time convert to stinkpads, But they changed my perspective on what a work machine should be - trackpoint, or you don’t get my money.<p>Now on a second X1... the only thing I miss is Ryzen option in the current lineup
emilfihlman大约 7 年前
Now change the aspect ratio to 3:2
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Teeer大约 7 年前
It costs $1500 - $2600, but it still has a basic integrated graphics card?<p>The specs do not make this seem worth it...
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chvid大约 7 年前
Honestly I would still buy the Macbook 15&quot; over this. Regardless of only USB-C and silly touchbar. Better screen, better OS, better service ...
unicornporn大约 7 年前
I&#x27;m so sorry to see that they&#x27;re still pushing the clamshell design. By that I mean that the lower portion of the laptop is thinner at the front. Extremely unflattering and no less than an attack on their design legacy. Looks like every other laptop out there. Visible here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;1ddfJ1Y.jpg" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;1ddfJ1Y.jpg</a><p>(Writing this on X220.)
penguinUzer大约 7 年前
I wish they would drop the Trackpoint and the physical mouse buttons and make the touchpad bigger. I carry a usb trackball for that.<p>My beater laptop that I carry everywhere is a Thinkpad 11e. I deal with the terrible screen so I can have the wonderful keyboard and trackpad. A faster cpu and a 1920x1200 IPS screen would make the little 11e my perfect laptop...
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