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Apple says it’s now powered by renewable energy worldwide

274 点作者 iamspoilt大约 7 年前

14 条评论

tomhoward大约 7 年前
As this article [1] explains, Apple does not (and cannot) actually run on 100% renewable energy globally, as any of its stores&#x2F;premises&#x2F;facilities that are connected to local municipal power grids will use whatever power generation method is used on that grid, and that is still likely to be fossil fuel in most locations.<p>But they purchase Renewable Energy Certificates to offset their use of non-renewable energy, so they can make the claim that their net consumption of non-renewable electricity is negative.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theverge.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;4&#x2F;9&#x2F;17216656&#x2F;apple-renewable-energy-worldwide-climate-change" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theverge.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;4&#x2F;9&#x2F;17216656&#x2F;apple-renewable-e...</a>
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aeleos大约 7 年前
As much as people like to hate on Apple and all the other stuff they do wrong, this is how its going to have to continue if we still want to be living on earth in 50 years. Companies like Apple have massive global influence, and if what they want is some free marketing and press in return for investing in renewables, that is a price I will gladly pay. Governments and companies are the only real force large enough to enact the kind of change that needs to happen, and if what they want in return is good press than that is fine by me.
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pluma大约 7 年前
As expected, the &quot;100%&quot; claim breaks down when it comes to the manufacturing, which mostly relies on suppliers. They say they have &quot;commitments&quot; from 23 suppliers but I&#x27;m sure there&#x27;s more than that and the ones they do mention mostly seem to be the ones manufacturing raw materials (leather, plastics, etc) rather than parts (looking at you, Foxconn).<p>EDIT: Of course it&#x27;s still quite an accomplishment but it should be clear that this does not translate to &quot;Apple products are environmentally friendly&quot; in any way (not even energy-wise).
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beloch大约 7 年前
That&#x27;s great. Next, focus on making products that can be repaired and upgraded by end-users for an extended period of time. Electronics manufacturing is resource intensive (beyond just energy) and a significant source of pollution (beyond CO_2 emissions). Recycling electronics is also resource intensive and does produce waste. If Apple tried to extend the average useful life of its products by just a couple years it would make a <i>big</i> difference.
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jacksmith21006大约 7 年前
Appears they are leveraging having moved their cloud to Google.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;dqbasmyouzti2.cloudfront.net&#x2F;assets&#x2F;content&#x2F;cache&#x2F;made&#x2F;content&#x2F;images&#x2F;articles&#x2F;Cumulative_Corporate_Renewable_Energy_Purchases_2017_2800_1375_80.jpg" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;dqbasmyouzti2.cloudfront.net&#x2F;assets&#x2F;content&#x2F;cache&#x2F;ma...</a><p>Before moving to Google they had a lot less. Here is 2016.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cdn.zmescience.com&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;2017&#x2F;12&#x2F;article-100percent-inline-1-1x.jpg" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cdn.zmescience.com&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;2017&#x2F;12&#x2F;articl...</a><p>So went from #14 to #4 and would guess that was because of Google?<p>BTW, Apple is really much better at PR then Google.
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grzm大约 7 年前
Actual title: &quot;Apple now globally powered by 100 percent renewable energy&quot;
perilunar大约 7 年前
&gt; &quot;Apple currently has 25 operational renewable energy projects around the world, totalling 626 megawatts of generation capacity&quot;<p>Damn impressive.<p>Also, it&#x27;s nice to see an article about renewables that uses megawatts almost exclusively, instead of ridiculous &#x27;megawatt-hours per year&#x27;. They slipped up twice at the end, but mostly good.
jacksmith21006大约 7 年前
This is really good to see and has really improved the last couple of years. Here is 2016.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cdn.zmescience.com&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;2017&#x2F;12&#x2F;article-100percent-inline-1-1x.jpg" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cdn.zmescience.com&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;2017&#x2F;12&#x2F;articl...</a><p>Then now<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;dqbasmyouzti2.cloudfront.net&#x2F;assets&#x2F;content&#x2F;cache&#x2F;made&#x2F;content&#x2F;images&#x2F;articles&#x2F;Cumulative_Corporate_Renewable_Energy_Purchases_2017_2800_1375_80.jpg" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;dqbasmyouzti2.cloudfront.net&#x2F;assets&#x2F;content&#x2F;cache&#x2F;ma...</a><p>So went from about #14 or to #4.
Double_a_92大约 7 年前
Does this include their part at foxconn?
patrickg_zill大约 7 年前
Do they include the Three Gorges Dam as being a source of &quot;renewable&quot; energy?
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source99大约 7 年前
What percentage of energy that is used to create Apple products is renewable?<p>I’m glad they are running their facilities with renewables but I’m guessing that is only a few percent of the total energy used to create and transport all Apple products.
apsec112大约 7 年前
Apple put its big new headquarters in Cupertino, which doesn&#x27;t have any housing available for all the people working there. Therefore, the majority will be forced to drive long distances to work, in dirty, CO2-heavy automobiles. Apple could have used its financial leverage - a third of Cupertino&#x27;s tax revenue - to force the city to stop blocking all new housing construction, reducing commute distances. Alternatively, it could have placed its headquarters somewhere else - somewhere with either more housing, or enough density to support public transit, or a city council that isn&#x27;t obsessed with enriching homeowners by making a housing shortage as bad as possible (or all three). Apple chose not to do either of those things, so all of those CO2 emissions are its responsibility.
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devmunchies大约 7 年前
&gt; ECCO Leather, the first soft goods supplier to commit to 100 percent clean energy for its Apple production<p>Animal product and clean energy? That’s an oxymoron. Animal agriculture is one of the most inefficient systems there is and a major contributor to climate change.<p>I’d hope the next step is to make a statement by doing without leather, if Apple is indeed trying to set forward thinking and progressive trends.
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loxs大约 7 年前
In other news, iPhone is so overpriced and we are all so dumb to buy it, that they are now wondering what to do with the money. Also, the other phone companies are so pathetic&#x2F;evil that they can&#x27;t compete even with this... Full disclosure, I am also using an iPhone<p>Edit: To the people who will downvote me because I &quot;hate&quot; the environment, go read this comment: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=16799199" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=16799199</a>