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Leaving “gifts” behind on dedicated server hosts

18 点作者 tbodt大约 7 年前

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saltcured大约 7 年前
This issue was always taken very seriously in other circles, including recognizing that virtualization is no cure-all.<p>Physical separation of the resource pools into equivalence classes or trust zones is just about the only sane way to recycle equipment. You might shelve and reuse equipment for the same customer or set of customers bound by mutually-covering legal agreements and mutual existential risks. You really have to think twice before putting non-trusting tenants together and consider the worst case. A proper service offering for sensitive workloads should involve decommissioning plans.<p>Promoting or demoting hardware between classes is difficult. You have to be very confident in scrubbing writable storage to demote hardware to a less trusted class, so you don&#x27;t leak privileged information. But you have to be even more confident to go the other way, so you don&#x27;t allow injection of malware as postulated in the blog post.<p>There was a time when the provider might be able to strip a machine to its bare bones, re-flashing firmware and replacing peripherals which couldn&#x27;t be sanely verified, to reinitialize it as a new trusted machine. But, there are so many bits of writable firmware storage and different embedded controllers in modern machines, so it becomes futile to imagine scrubbing it all.
switch007大约 7 年前
When I was a junior sysadmin at a hosting company I raised this point in passing. It was acknowledged as a problem, but apparently so hard to fix that it was just ignored (and I didn&#x27;t care enough to pursue it further).<p>I haven&#x27;t given it much thought as I&#x27;ve not worked with physical kit since then. I wonder if virtualization is good enough now that they could take a security stance to only deploy VMs, and deprecate the root &quot;physical servers&quot; product offering (i.e. you can spec out a physical server but you will always get a VM).
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jason_slack大约 7 年前
To extend this a bit further, I once was tasked with &quot;re-purposing&quot; an old EMC Clariion and found that none of the data had ever been wiped. Completely left intact.
jason_slack大约 7 年前
I&#x27;m always amazed at what &quot;rachelbythebay&quot; writes. I&#x27;ve gone from occasionally reading one of her posts to wanting to read them. The topics are always so interesting and about things I don&#x27;t ever find myself thinking about.<p>I wonder if the company I work for could use such a &quot;smart cookie&quot;...