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The Dow of Cities

57 点作者 ALee大约 7 年前

11 条评论

rhapsodic大约 7 年前
I prefer suburban living to city living. But I'm really glad to see the revival of cities in the US, particularly the one I live just outside of. The professional, upper middle class people who are moving in are rehabbing old housing stock and neighborhoods that had been decaying for decades, and it's good for everyone, in my view -- even suburban property owners such as myself.
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dredmorbius大约 7 年前
The notion of valuing cities is an interesting and useful one.<p>The notion of doing this by way of real estate valuation is somewhere between misguided and actvely dangerous.<p>Asset price inflation is not, should not be confused with, and proxies poorly for, real economic wealth increase.<p>The definition of wealth itself has been and remains something of a conundrum within economics. It wasn&#x27;t until I actually started reading Adam Smith closely some years back that I realised his definition, &quot;the annual produce and labour of the nation&quot;, is a <i>flow</i> rather than a <i>stock</i> measure. (Smith biographer and editor Edwin Cannan commented similarly in the late 19th century, I&#x27;m late to the party).<p>As such, Smith&#x27;s metric bears a strong resemblence to Leslie White&#x27;s law, &quot;culture evolves as the amount of energy harnessed per capita per year is increased, or as the efficiency of the instrumental means of putting the energy to work is increased&quot;.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;White&#x27;s_law" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;White&#x27;s_law</a><p>Which might make for a more useful metric basis than City Observatory are proposing.
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rmah大约 7 年前
Why not just use the Case–Shiller index? It&#x27;s been around for 18 years, has data from 1890 to today, has a solid methodology that has been scrutinized by many economists, and is the industry standard for US residential home prices. Oh, and it&#x27;s also widely quoted in the financial media.
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brailsafe大约 7 年前
&gt; You can’t literally buy stock in a city, but buying a house is the closest thing imaginable.<p>I feel like this might be more generalized to &quot;home&quot; rather than &quot;house&quot;, though I suppose it depends on what your conception of a house is. So far as I&#x27;m aware, focus on single family detached houses leads to a gradual decrease in every measurably quality of urban living by using a sprawl as a vehicle.
gnode大约 7 年前
&gt; You can’t literally buy stock in a city, but buying a house is the closest thing imaginable.<p>Maybe not accessible for the retail investor, but can&#x27;t this be done by buying collateralized debt obligations? If you could be issued a CDO based on urban mortgages in particular, then you could profit from the rise of urban house prices.
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padobson大约 7 年前
Has anyone ever considered moving to some wilderness and just developing an urban center there, a la Sim City? If there&#x27;s such a shortage of cities, perhaps building one from scratch is a viable option.
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chrisweekly大约 7 年前
I wonder what the broad adoption of autonomous vehicles will do to the urban-center growth curve.
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kaycebasques大约 7 年前
I&#x27;m a bit hesitant to give this article any mind, simply based on the fact that they&#x27;re using an antiquated index like the Dow as their point of comparison.
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jpao79大约 7 年前
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padobson大约 7 年前
<i>The new Fitch analysis make it abundantly clear that cities are hot, and suburbs are not.</i><p>I&#x27;m not sure this is true. I&#x27;d say it&#x27;s more like demand in cities is outpacing supply, whereas that&#x27;s not the case in the suburbs. It seems more like a commentary on the scarcity of real estate (both natural and artificial) in city centers.
jasonmp85大约 7 年前
TBH I&#x27;d have rather read about The Dao of Cities.
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