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Chat is Google's next big fix for Android's messaging mess

81 点作者 OberstKrueger大约 7 年前

18 条评论

FreeKill大约 7 年前
Fool me twice google! I won&#x27;t get fooled again?<p>In all seriousness, how can anyone advocate for the adoption of this new chat app? After Chat&#x2F;Buzz&#x2F;Hangouts&#x2F;Messenger&#x2F;Duo&#x2F;Allo and probably more, I can&#x27;t with a straight face convince anyone I know to adopt yet another Google messaging product, despite whatever problem it sets out to rectify this time around.<p>At this point, I have zero trust that the application will continue to get long term support or will even still exist in a few years time. Remember when Google said Hangouts was going to consolidate and fix problems in all these disparate applications as well? Google has lost 100% of the benefit of the doubt with me in regards to trying out new messaging applications and it&#x27;s not worth putting in the hassle to convince others to use it with me.
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stevewillows大约 7 年前
After all of these years, I&#x27;m surprised that Google hasn&#x27;t just made their own clone of iMessage and called it a day.<p>iMessage (being an SMS &#x2F; chat system with a native desktop client) is the only reason I went back to iOS. As much as I miss and android community, my top priority is avoiding the physical use of my phone whenever possible.<p>So while this is on the right track, its still not there. Leaving encryption off the table, at least to me, doesn&#x27;t make a lick of sense.<p>Combining Google Voice and an iMessage-like service would have been closer to the game-changer they keep marketing their chat apps as... but it looks like we&#x27;re still going to wait.<p>A BGR article [1] is assuming that they&#x27;ll use a browser extension for the desktop client, which is good for cross-platform work, but the ones I&#x27;ve tried in the past (PushBullet, MightyText, etc) all fell short.<p>Long story short, its a shame to see someone as big and powerful as Google struggle with something as seemingly simple as a good SMS &#x2F; RCS client to properly compete in the space.<p>[1] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;bgr.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;02&#x2F;09&#x2F;imessage-vs-android-messages-sms-texting-pc&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;bgr.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;02&#x2F;09&#x2F;imessage-vs-android-messages-sms-t...</a>
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sfRattan大约 7 年前
I give it two years before Google tries something else.<p>Honestly, as soon as Google Voice (and its integration with the languishing Hangouts app) support breaks, which I fully expect to eventually happen, I&#x27;m jumping off the last of the Google boat. The inertia of &quot;all my friends can at least contact me on this number that follows me around carrier-to-carrier&quot; is the only reason I haven&#x27;t stopped using Google services almost entirely:<p>My searches are DuckDuckGo. It&#x27;s even more useful than Google for image searches because it still has a &quot;View Image&quot; link.<p>My primary email is now a private provider. The old Gmail account is kept to not miss old contacts reaching out and as a dumping ground for &quot;sign up with your email so we can spam you forever!&quot;<p>My online storage and backup is private, paid, and encrypted. There are still a few public links in my Google Drive, but I no longer use it day-to-day.<p>I can&#x27;t remember the last time I actually needed live collaborative editing for work. I still use Google Docs&#x2F;Spreadsheets occasionally, but I&#x27;m mostly collaborating with people elsewhere in the world and I wake up to see their edits&#x2F;comments the next day. I&#x27;m not sure this bit even needs a replacement.<p>The last holdout is that sticky Google Voice number. I woke up one day a year and a half back and thought to myself, &quot;you make real money now. You signed up for Google&#x27;s free services all the way back in high school (when you had to have an invite for Gmail). <i>You can afford paid services for these things, and the paid services are just as good</i>. Why are you still giving Google more of your info than they would otherwise vacuum up?&quot;<p>The fact that Google&#x27;s &quot;fix&quot; for its own ADHD concerning chat&#x2F;message platform(s) has no encryption is enough for me to say, &quot;Nope. Done. Get me out of there once and for all.&quot;
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post_break大约 7 年前
Hangouts was so close. It had SMS, audio, video, text, desktop clients. It was about to be the android equivalent of imessage. And then they pulled SMS and started pulling other features and pushing duo&#x2F;allo.<p>I&#x27;ve switched to telegram at this point and now I have that and SMS. It&#x27;s a shit show.
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bigiain大约 7 年前
&#x27;But, like SMS, Chat won’t be end-to-end encrypted&#x27;<p>Hey Google? 1992 called, they want their clear text messaging app back...
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velobro大约 7 年前
&quot;As part of that effort, Google says it’s “pausing” work on its most recent entry into the messaging space, Allo.&quot;<p>Oh hey look, another app Google is going to neglect and then abandon. What a surprise.<p>&#x2F;s
madushan92大约 7 年前
What happens to Allo? Abandon it just like hangouts? Google has been playfully abandoning most of their products lately. It’s the consumers that has to live with it. I bought a nexus 6p last year, only to find out Google is dropping support with Android P. Oh man I wish I bought an iPhone, atleast it gets support for 5 years. ‍️
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lopmotr大约 7 年前
It&#x27;s strange to see Americans struggling with problems that are completely solved in other countries. Here, WeChat in China. They somehow aren&#x27;t getting the network effects like WeChat had and have to resort to getting every carrier to promise to - I suppose - impose it on their customers.
gruez大约 7 年前
what&#x27;s the point of rcs when it&#x27;s controlled by the carriers (aka you will be billed for it). at least with imessage it&#x27;s free to send between apple devices.
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firefoxd大约 7 年前
When everything else fails, we send an SMS.<p>Google: sms must be broken, let&#x27;s fix it.
styfle大约 7 年前
Here&#x27;s the mobile friendly version of the article:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theverge.com&#x2F;platform&#x2F;amp&#x2F;2018&#x2F;4&#x2F;19&#x2F;17252486&#x2F;google-android-messages-chat-rcs-anil-sabharwal-imessage-texting" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theverge.com&#x2F;platform&#x2F;amp&#x2F;2018&#x2F;4&#x2F;19&#x2F;17252486&#x2F;goo...</a>
limeblack大约 7 年前
A data plan will be required on Android according to the video[1].<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;PCh-qRYMAKk?t=3m39s" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;PCh-qRYMAKk?t=3m39s</a>
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dingo_bat大约 7 年前
This is a solved problem. By entities other than google. SMS works fine on every phone. Whatsapp and Messenger also work fine. Choose one or two and use it.
hitekker大约 7 年前
Whatsapp has solved this problem as far as I&#x27;m concerned. Even my north american friends are getting into it now.<p>It&#x27;s the perfect messenger for the average user.
dorfsmay大约 7 年前
Mobile only is sad...<p>I want to be able to chat from whatever platform I&#x27;m on right now, like hangout and xmpp previously.
Aissen大约 7 年前
Nevermind that &quot;Hangouts Chat&quot; is already called &quot;Chat&quot; on Android…
typon大约 7 年前
Everyone I know is on WhatsApp. Why would anyone switch?
hateful大约 7 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;xkcd.com&#x2F;927&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;xkcd.com&#x2F;927&#x2F;</a>