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How IBM quietly pushed out 20,000 aging workers

89 点作者 Futurebot大约 7 年前

7 条评论

PeterStuer大约 7 年前
Ageism is still the number 1 discrimination in the IT/software industry by a mile. But since it is not as 'sexy', 'Politically Correct' or appealing to the right 'Consumer Demographic', it gets mostly the silent treatment.
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TheRealDunkirk大约 7 年前
As a late-40&#x27;s engineer&#x2F;programmer&#x2F;admin, I&#x27;ve been fortunate to stay technical for my 25 years or so, but I&#x27;ve seen the other side of this argument. We had a guy who was in his later 50&#x27;s, as a top-level &quot;tech&quot; pay grade, who wrote some Perl twenty-something years ago. He was given 3 simple tasks in Visual Basic, and couldn&#x27;t complete a single one. The company did an RIF, and he just barely made the cut to get an early retirement. He took it, knowing he&#x27;d be let go if he didn&#x27;t.<p>So, yeah, as a middle-aged guy, these stories scare my pants off. However, I think this other guy&#x27;s story is pretty common. I suspect that there are a lot of people who, thanks to some early success at being technical in a large company, rise through the pay scale, and then never update their skill set. These people NEED to go. They&#x27;re a drag on an already-cripplingly-overencumbered organization.<p>You have to keep learning. Forever. After over a decade happily coding with Rails, I&#x27;m now learning Java for web applications. Yikes. I can&#x27;t say I&#x27;m enjoying the experience, but I AM learning a lot.<p>Just throwing out a counterpoint. I&#x27;m not sure that taking the money saved, and hiring a small army of Indian college grads is the answer, but that&#x27;s a whole different discussion.
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mathattack大约 7 年前
And I thought IBM was one of the few places that still had aging workers. Why would a young worker ever join them?<p>The Voce article doesn’t add anything to the original. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;features.propublica.org&#x2F;ibm&#x2F;ibm-age-discrimination-american-workers&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;features.propublica.org&#x2F;ibm&#x2F;ibm-age-discrimination-a...</a>
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sunstone大约 7 年前
The problem with tech unlike say cardiology or law is that things change so quickly that experience doesn&#x27;t easily accrue as an asset. Further, because tech is dealing with things rather than people a professional network also isn&#x27;t easy to build.<p>Compounding these problems is that the internet has allowed organizations to relatively easily outsource a lot of tech work to low wage countries. The combined result is that tech workers have little strength in the value chain particularly as they get older.<p>One bright area though is tech for smaller companies typically web technology. Small companies can&#x27;t easily manage foreign workers and many are not large enough to hire an IT department but they still need a web site and often and specialized database backing it up. These types of businesses often appreciate older workers as consultants and pay them well enough, almost like lawyers or accountants.
sjg007大约 7 年前
I hope IBM gets roasted by the Feds for this.
datamingle大约 7 年前
Could this not be more with Pensions than just ageism? I&#x27;m going to make the assumption that perhaps older IBM workers had generous pension packages. Human living longer, more costly, etc.
bornonline1大约 7 年前
So there are no studies that show the elder lose their mental abilities?
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