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How Reddit Kicked Digg’s Ass

66 点作者 cartab超过 14 年前

16 条评论

jakevoytko超过 14 年前
Reddit kicked Digg's ass because Reddit is designed as a feedback loop that benefits all users. Digg only rewards elite users.<p>Look at a random Reddit submission. If it survives the first minute, it makes some user's frontpage. If it is "good," it gets votes and is seen by more people. If the username is popular, it gets upvoted faster. But it turns out this is not necessary for success - I have submitted successful articles without any possible benefit of name recognition, or help from friends.<p>Reddit's comment section is a great feedback loop: Reddit is designed for discussion, and discussion is great at generating more discussion. Large comment threads form on popular articles, even if they're only lightly inspired by the article or vapid. You must check your recent comments to defend yourself, since the risk is high that someone will strongly and persuasively disagree with you. After all, it's Reddit. Good comments get trophies. Really good comments make /r/bestof.<p>In contrast, Digg is a feedback loop that benefits the best users. Within a few years of Digg's launch (especially after they dropped the technology-only focus), it was almost impossible to get an article on the frontpage without a friend network, or the blessing of a poweruser. The various sections of Digg were littered with hundreds of high-quality articles with two Diggs. To successfully submit articles to Digg, you needed to focus energy on gaining a network and voting on articles that they submit, and using this network to gain a larger network. The last time I was there, the comments section was also a nightmare. It is designed for single-use comments, and not for discussion. At one point they introduced nested comments, but it seems like they've either done away with it, or don't have enough comments to nest.<p>The best website designs act as feedback loops. Reddit has polished theirs.
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jlgbecom超过 14 年前
I used to read digg way back when, but someone alerted me to the whole situation and I watched it crumble, and it was... spectacular. It was like a cyberpunk novel. People didn't just move to reddit, they moved to reddit, and then salted the earth behind them.
pvg超过 14 年前
Title should probably be 'How Digg's fuckup benefited Reddit'
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Revisor超过 14 年前
Will the wave of users coming from Digg be useful participants?<p>Will there be any paid gaming of Reddit?<p>Will Reddit turn into a sewer as it grows, as did Digg?
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hugh3超过 14 年前
I don't know if the person responsible for this vospe.com site is someone here, but it's really bad design.<p>1. It crashed my browser the first time I tried to look at it (Firefox 3.5.12 on mac)<p>2. It broke the normal functionality of my up and down scroll keys... apparently I press down to scroll down a little and it goes all the way down to the comments section.<p>3. That grey box hovering at the top and blocking out some of the text is just plain obnoxious.
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goalieca超过 14 年前
Glad to see that dried meat sales went up.<p>edit: I'm also quite impressed with reddit's professionalism. It also appears that reddit is back to being reddit. The digg users have been assimilated.
jsz0超过 14 年前
I just looked at Digg for the first time in a few weeks and the snapshot of front page articles is actually pretty good. They may take a hit in the short term with the raging power users who hate change but most of Digg's traffic is comprised of people who don't even login to the site much less spend hours a day on it voting things up/down. For most users all that matters is good content and the old system was failing them.
scorpion032超过 14 年前
tl;dr: Reddit didn't have to do anything. Just wait for digg to kick its own.<p>More like how a bowler gets a wicket in cricket. Bowl consistent line and length and wait for the batsman to err.
kragen超过 14 年前
Maybe my article from a couple of years ago about the relative merits of Reddit and Digg may be relevant: <a href="http://lists.canonical.org/pipermail/kragen-tol/2008-January/000878.html" rel="nofollow">http://lists.canonical.org/pipermail/kragen-tol/2008-January...</a><p>It doesn't really explain why Digg has been more popular for the following two years. Or does it?
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djhworld超过 14 年前
I lost interest in Digg a few years ago, most of the posts seem to be lists or funny images or just totally banal.<p>Also there's some bizarre political movements that seem to move throughout Digg, that largely seems to sit on the right wing side of the spectrum
estacado超过 14 年前
The site scrolled to the end of page when i clicked the down arrow. Bad design!
agotterer超过 14 年前
What do you think will happen to Digg? Will the "core / elite" users all jump ship? But does Diggs new offering have a chance with the "mainstream crowd" (who may or may not yet know about the site)?
adlep超过 14 年前
It is kind of sad to see what has happened to Digg. It uses to be a simple site with a simple purpose and an elegant design. They have now morph it into a hybrid of some sort.
asmosoinio超过 14 年前
Anyone have another link to the video? It's loading really slow for me.
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pathik超过 14 年前
Digg kicked its own arse. Reddit was just around at the right time.
cartab超过 14 年前
<a href="http://digg.com/news/technology/how_reddit_kicked_digg_s_ass" rel="nofollow">http://digg.com/news/technology/how_reddit_kicked_digg_s_ass</a><p>Let's get this on diggs front page.