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What's in those mysterious cabinets?

148 点作者 jamesbowman大约 7 年前

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kqr大约 7 年前
Re. technical domains you may not know exist: airplane flatware logistics.<p>When you want to look at something optimised, start with things that are expensive to run. Airports are expensive in nearly every sense of the word, so it&#x27;s a place where you find things being optimised to hell and back. Outgoing passenger flights may need clean, fresh flatware. The window in time allocated to unload dirty flatwar and load a clean batch is small; that cart of flatware needs to be in exactly the right place at the right time, or there will be delays, which will cost a lot of money to someone.<p>So, naturally, the strategies on how to get flatware onto airplanes is an area of deep study.<p>I talked to a friend of a friend at a party about this, since it was their subject of study. They thought they were studying the most boring thing in the world and I couldn&#x27;t make them understand why it fascinated me.
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guessmyname大约 7 年前
&gt; <i>It&#x27;s such a big world out there, so much to know.</i><p>I love this type of articles, there really is so much out there to learn.<p>I always found myself thinking, while waiting for the green light:<p>* Who makes these traffic lights?<p>* What software controls the traffic system?<p>* Are all traffic systems controlled by the same organizations?<p>* Can they get hacked? Of course they can… Are they difficult to hack?<p>* How can someone land a job to work on this type of SCADA systems?<p>I am right now sending my resume to McCain [1] they are currently looking for .Net, Java and Embedded engineers. If I don&#x27;t get any of these jobs, at least I know where to continue looking. My dream have always been to work in projects like that, someone people consider them boring, I find them very interesting.<p>Wish me luck :-)<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.mccain-inc.com&#x2F;company&#x2F;careers" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.mccain-inc.com&#x2F;company&#x2F;careers</a>
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deathanatos大约 7 年前
&gt; <i>What is ramp metering?</i><p>(The Bay Area contingent of HN can answer that!) Traffic lights (typically red&#x2F;green only) at the bottom of on-ramps that rate-limit (&quot;meter&quot;) traffic onto the freeway, typically during rush hour. You drive up to a red, stop, it turns green and you go. (Sometimes a sign indicates that 2 cars get to go per green given.) There are usually sensors embedded in the rightmost lane of the freeway shortly before the merge point, and on a good day, it feels like it gives you a green timed with a gap. (Although I think it also sometimes just times out and lets you go, in which case, no gap.)<p>The ones here have an HOV lane and a non-HOV lane, usually; typically they just force the HOV lane to come to a near stop before turning green; I think that&#x27;s more to slow the HOV traffic down to avoid collisions with the adjoining non-HOV lane should their light also turn green, but it feels like a weird formality when driving it. Some days the cops sit on the ramp pulling people cheating in the HOV lane.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Ramp_meter" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Ramp_meter</a><p>It is one of the two things I warn family visiting that have never visited before. (In the majority of the US, you just get on the highway, there isn&#x27;t a traffic light at the bottom of a ramp, that&#x27;d be absurd, since you&#x27;re wanting to accelerate to ~70mph.) (The other is lane splitting: motorcycles will (ab)use the dividing line, particularly between lanes 1 &amp; 2, to pass.)
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mojomark大约 7 年前
At 5AM, as I sit waiting for a traffic light on a deserted stretch of road during my morning commute, glaring tempestuously at the nearby redlight camera, I wonder how we&#x27;ve gotten to driverless cars before getting to &#x27;smart&#x27; intersection signaling systems that know there is a lone commuter patiently waiting to pass.
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Taniwha大约 7 年前
when I was a kid (a long time ago) those cabinets were full of electro-mechanical relays, you could hear them clicking.<p>I discovered that by thumping against the box hard the traffic lights would suddenly change so I could cross.<p>I did this exactly once because while no one had an accident the traffic got a bit hairy for a minute as lights changed early without a yellow phase ....
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walrus01大约 7 年前
In case anyone is wondering very similar cabinets are also used for telecom in major cities. Shaw has sidewalk mounted cabinets throughout Vancouver for part of their fiber and cable TV network, and there&#x27;s Telus pedestal&#x2F;junction cabinets as well.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.google.com&#x2F;search?q=telecom+cabinet+outdoor&amp;num=100&amp;client=ubuntu&amp;hs=mKR&amp;channel=fs&amp;source=lnms&amp;tbm=isch&amp;sa=X&amp;ved=0ahUKEwjyxMzDlebaAhWHsVQKHW5UCqsQ_AUICigB&amp;biw=1493&amp;bih=2011" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.google.com&#x2F;search?q=telecom+cabinet+outdoor&amp;num=...</a><p>I have seen models <i>very similar</i> to traffic control system cabinets used for patch panels for fiber + 1RU sized routers and switches, medium sized UPS, etc.
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surgeryres大约 7 年前
This post is one of the many reasons I love HN. In depth discussion of obscure (but very interesting) topics; and the personal websites that host them.
mutagen大约 7 年前
Want to rabbit-hole deep on traffic engineering? There’s a long-running thread on the Something Awful forums about traffic engineering:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;forums.somethingawful.com&#x2F;showthread.php?threadid=3177805" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;forums.somethingawful.com&#x2F;showthread.php?threadid=31...</a><p>Traffic controls, intersection design, role playing regional transportation planning, and much much more.
jaaames大约 7 年前
I only found out about these a few months ago because there was always a cop leaning against one outside a ballpark before and after games with a radio plugged into it.<p>I asked what he was doing and he gladly showed me that he was just manually cycling the lights, basically on a longer delay where required to clear jams and work with another cop directing traffic.
spchampion2大约 7 年前
I&#x27;ve always wondered why those cabinets are so big. Traffic light controls seem like the kind of thing that could be reduced to a much smaller package given greater computing power combined with smaller and more efficient hardware. What does all the hardware inside actually do?
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_bxg1大约 7 年前
Reminds me of this scene from MI3 <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;m.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=ojRRr3nOD3Y" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;m.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=ojRRr3nOD3Y</a><p>The joke was supposed to be that his cover job sounds boring, but I always thought it sounded fascinating
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speps大约 7 年前
Follow-up post [1] with explanation of &quot;ramp metering&quot; and &quot;sprinklers&quot;.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.plover.com&#x2F;addenda&#x2F;201804.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.plover.com&#x2F;addenda&#x2F;201804.html</a>
peterwwillis大约 7 年前
Further reading:<p>How Traffic Light Control Systems Work (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.autoevolution.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;how-do-traffic-light-control-systems-work-41839.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.autoevolution.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;how-do-traffic-light-cont...</a>)<p>Traffic Signal Operations and Maintenance Staffing Guidelines (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ops.fhwa.dot.gov&#x2F;publications&#x2F;fhwahop09006&#x2F;fhwahop09006.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ops.fhwa.dot.gov&#x2F;publications&#x2F;fhwahop09006&#x2F;fhwahop09...</a>)<p>TRAFFIC SIGNAL OPERATIONS HANDBOOK (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;d2dtl5nnlpfr0r.cloudfront.net&#x2F;tti.tamu.edu&#x2F;documents&#x2F;0-5629-P1.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;d2dtl5nnlpfr0r.cloudfront.net&#x2F;tti.tamu.edu&#x2F;documents...</a>)<p>TRAFFIC SIGNAL DESIGN – OPERATIONS AND COORDINATION (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.tn.gov&#x2F;content&#x2F;dam&#x2F;tn&#x2F;tdot&#x2F;documents&#x2F;TDOT_Traffic_Design_Manual_Chapter_07_Dec2016.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.tn.gov&#x2F;content&#x2F;dam&#x2F;tn&#x2F;tdot&#x2F;documents&#x2F;TDOT_Traffi...</a>)<p>Design of an ITS-Level Advanced Traffic Management System: A Human Factors Perspective (1996) <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fhwa.dot.gov&#x2F;publications&#x2F;research&#x2F;safety&#x2F;95181&#x2F;95181.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fhwa.dot.gov&#x2F;publications&#x2F;research&#x2F;safety&#x2F;95181&#x2F;...</a>
unwind大约 7 年前
<i>I think I understand what variable message signs are, and I can guess at changeable lane control, but what are the sprinklers and pumps for? What is ramp metering?</i><p>Very interesting (as always with good geekery almost regardless of actual subject matter), but so frustrating that the part about pumps and sprinklers not being answered.<p>The linked-to PDF in the article (the one that the quote above comes from) doesn&#x27;t mention sprinklers or pumps more than once, either.<p>I guess traffic intersections often have decorative planting which might need watering and it would make sense to make the already-present light controller handle that, too. That&#x27;s my best guess, at least. Some basic googling didn&#x27;t turn up anything useful.
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lallysingh大约 7 年前
This is the first time I&#x27;ve seen an HC11 used outside of educational contexts.
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EvanAnderson大约 7 年前
Yikes, those are some dirty fiber terminations! I wonder what&#x27;s in there that needs single-mode fiber.
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