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U.S. Army, Uber sign research agreement

157 点作者 hapnin大约 7 年前

23 条评论

jadedhacker大约 7 年前
Interesting, military only gave ~$1M for such an ambitious project while Uber is burning billions a year and could easily afford this.<p>My speculation is that this partnership is first and foremost an attempt to provide Uber with a patina of respectability for this attempt and access to military technical expertise. Uber just crashed and burned on self driving, something it desperately needs to quench its towering money fires. Uber&#x27;s investors know that. Therefore, Uber needs to constantly appear to be &quot;innovating&quot; in flashy ways to keep its investors at bay with seductive promises of even greater riches.<p>This, even if the entire idea of flying cars driven by normal humans is insane or worse, piloted by a company known for breaking rules (now in Aviation of all things!) and have the dubious honor of being the first to kill a woman with self-driving AI.<p>It helps to have connections to get these contracts yo. And of course, yet another major American company cooperating with defense. Military-industrial complex indeed. Every peaceful venture must be tied to the killing machine. All the cool kids are, like Google and its TF support for drone assassinations.<p>EDIT: added technical expertise to 2nd paragraph
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willart4food大约 7 年前
I can see Uber doing R&amp;D in autonomous cars, I see that an extension - and the next logical steps - for transportation as we know it.<p>But, when I read:<p>&quot;The joint work statement focuses on research to create the first usable stacked co-rotating rotors or propellers; this is a concept for having two rotor systems placed on top of each other and rotating in the same direction.&quot;<p>I scratch my head: where is Uber&#x27;s domain expertise in this?
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Bobbleoxs大约 7 年前
Isn&#x27;t it ironic whilst Google&#x27;s engineers are mass protesting against military contracts, Uber already signed a whole bunch without any moral dilemma whatsover. Tells a lot about the company ethics there.<p>On a separate note, could someone enlighten how stacked co-rotoring (moving towards the same direction) may make the aircraft silent and not noisier?
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stephenr大约 7 年前
So the army saw how Uber’s driverless cars handle pedestrians crossing a road and said “shut up and take my money”?
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john_moscow大约 7 年前
&gt;Uber and the Army&#x27;s research lab expect to spend a combined total of $1 million in funding for this research; this funding will be divided equally between each party.<p>That&#x27;s about 8 person-years in salary. Given Uber&#x27;s scale that doesn&#x27;t make any sense.
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criticalpotato大约 7 年前
Or would it be time to give up on Uber and finally admit that they&#x27;re neither a technology company nor anything else &quot;groundbreaking&quot; that Valley thinks they are.<p>&quot;Technology&quot; for the company has been coming up with a mobile app to connect drivers and potential customers - something hardly groundbreaking. Probably the most groundbreaking technological thing coming from these guys has been the multiple evasion software etc which at the end of the day are not only just sketchy to begin with but also not really anything worth their company valuation, even on the defense contracting etc where such applications could become worth something if you have slick enough lobbying&#x2F;sales people.<p>And while their efforts to &quot;disrupt&quot; the taxi economy have been &quot;great&quot; in all honesty they&#x27;ve only created room for their competition to benefit on this - Uber has simply managed to take a business (taxis) and run it to chaos while what would&#x27;ve been the logical step was to run a similar application by the taxi companies for ride hailing.<p>The US defense collaboration we can only speculate on but presumably this is either government wanting to get their hands on the Uber spying software or taking their bet that if these dimwits ever come up with anything technological they can always call for it - why spend billions upon billions on R&amp;D when you can get a bunch of small contracts for which you can negotiate exclusive rights for upcoming R&amp;D by the companies.<p>My question simply is - why do you care of anything Uber anymore? After everything this company has proven to be from the law enforcement evasion to sexual harassment scandals and borderline impossible &quot;innovations&quot; (like seriously, who seriously thought these guys can figure out the self-driving cars etc when the 2 of the biggest technology corporations with virtually unlimited experience, know-how, funding and partnerships haven&#x27;t done so yet?).<p>At best this would be proper honest R&amp;D but in my honest opinion there&#x27;s no way Uber is that far with the tech and no way US Army is doing R&amp;D for civil purposes, you take into account the miniscule contract value etc and it&#x27;s rather clear that this is either publicity stunt by Uber to save their sinking ship or direct tech takeover from government. In either case there&#x27;s hardly anything news worthy and even less anything worth of spending time - let is sink and someone will build a better, functioning ship to take people across the busy streets of New York in some vehicle whether it&#x27;s flying or on the ground.
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Tepix大约 7 年前
Uber misses no opportunity not to like them.
wishart_washy大约 7 年前
And when the agreement completes they&#x27;ll each gain +200 science.
txsh大约 7 年前
It’s good that the US isn’t at war in Iraq any more. Uber’s surge pricing would bankrupt them.
pjc50大约 7 年前
Guessing this refers to <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.freepatentsonline.com&#x2F;8640985.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.freepatentsonline.com&#x2F;8640985.html</a> : multiple co-axial rotors spinning in the same direction sounds a bit odd but evidently does something clever with wakes to increase lift &#x2F; reduce noise.
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shanghaiaway大约 7 年前
Good reason for legislators to kick Uber out of their country.
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sschueller大约 7 年前
Will Uber aquire the necessary licenses from the FAA to fly these things or will they also ignore those because they want to &#x27;disrupt&#x27; the industry? Theses things better be safe before they get used.<p>I for one don&#x27;t want one if these things crashing on my house.
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dmix大约 7 年前
You can see a picture of the &quot;stacked co-rotating rotors&quot; on their partners website: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.launchpnt.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.launchpnt.com&#x2F;</a>
JepZ大约 7 年前
Two guesses:<p>- Uber has ambitions to build a Volocopter [1] alternative<p>- Uber wants to become an US Army contractor (probably to utilize their AI technology for drones or self driving supply trucks&#x2F;tanks)<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=tODIvUmH6cs" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=tODIvUmH6cs</a>
omginternets大约 7 年前
&gt;To date, stacked co-rotating rotors have not been deployed in existing flying craft.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Kamov_Ka-50" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Kamov_Ka-50</a><p>What am I missing?
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FriedPickles大约 7 年前
If both rotors spin the same direction, what keeps the aircraft body from rotating the other direction? Is there a tail rotor?
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SlowRobotAhead大约 7 年前
I find it interesting that Uber wants to do everything except find people rides.<p>I’ll continue using Lyft. Uber is going to either get lucky with something and also be the Uber Of That or they’re going to burn hard by forgetting what it is they are supposed to be doing.
dkdinesh749大约 7 年前
Wow....salute to this
discordance大约 7 年前
&quot;US Army hoping to learn from Uber&#x27;s UAV killing machines&quot;
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RunningRabbit大约 7 年前
It&#x27;s about time i can order a black M1 Abrams to get me to the club in style!
trumped大约 7 年前
Are they going to equip all Uber cars with a standard charge of explosive in case one of their customer need to disapear?
gaius大约 7 年前
I wonder if any Uber staff will resign in protest. I wonder if customers and drivers in countries not entire aligned with US imperialism will vote with their feet too.
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matt4077大约 7 年前
One would think Uber has enough problems recruiting and retaining talented people, what with &quot;go fast and break things (people)&quot;.<p>Now it&#x27;s not just casual misogyny and user surveillance. Your work may actually kill people when used as intended.
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