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Ask HN: Why is there so much hatred and distrust of Microsoft?

15 点作者 parvenu74将近 7 年前
The overwhelming reaction of commenters here at HN to the news that Microsoft might be acquiring GitHub is negative at best and "OMG, the sky is falling" at the most hyperbolic. Why is that? Microsoft is a Platinum level member of the Linux Foundation, a huge advocate of open source in general, and is open-sourcing more projects and technologies of their own every month. Why, then, is there so much antipathy for this company?

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jsiepkes将近 7 年前
Well not all the critism might be directly aimed at MS but more at GitHub losing its impartial &#x2F; neutral status.<p>However regarding MS specifically; I don&#x27;t know your age but a lot of us were around when Microsoft was a different company then it is today. The Microsoft of the Halloween documents ( <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Halloween_documents" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Halloween_documents</a> ), the Microsoft that killed Netscape with very anticompetitive practices, the Microsoft that had to pay Sun billions for its anticompetitive behaviour, the Microsoft that called opensource a cancer, etc. etc. You know what they say: Trust arrives walking and leaves riding...
__d将近 7 年前
Microsoft&#x27;s recent behaviour could represent a genuine change in corporate culture, and I sincerely hope that it does.<p>But, spending a little cash to have a LF sponsorship to point to, and talking up open source and switching development of some peripheral products to that model now that they&#x27;ve figured out how it can be good for them doesn&#x27;t really mean much.<p>We&#x27;ve had 30 years of the old Microsoft, where free software was cancer, a joke, and Microsoft used all its corporate power to try to strangle Linux (especially) as a possible competitor.<p>You&#x27;ll notice that today, Windows, Exchange, Office, Azure, etc, etc, -- all the products that they make money from are still totally, or almost totally, proprietary. There&#x27;s clearly been a recognition that open source is not going away, and even has some value, but they haven&#x27;t actually changed to being a genuine open source company.<p>GitHub was always a risk: one day it was going to be acquired (pre- or post-IPO). Clearly others (eg. Oracle) would be worse than Microsoft, but I think some level of concern (especially given the Skype debacle) is warranted.
dozzie将近 7 年前
&gt; Why is there so much hatred and distrust of Microsoft?<p>Because of more than two decades of trampling on open source and competitors. Remember when Microsoft called Linux a cancer? No? Then read up on their history.
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melling将近 7 年前
Embrace, extend, and extinguish<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Embrace,_extend,_and_extingu...</a><p>Microsoft was quite dominant for quite some time.<p>These days they’re a little disappointing. I don’t want the old Microsoft but they certainly need to be a little more aggressive.
dv_dt将近 7 年前
For one, if the SCO Unix lawsuits had had a different outcome, Microsoft might have killed Linux completely.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;SCO%E2%80%93Linux_disputes" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;SCO%E2%80%93Linux_disputes</a>
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brownbat将近 7 年前
I&#x27;m still hanging on to Microsoft centralizing Skype, Apple trying to smother mp3s, and Googling killing (your favorite side project here).<p>Follow a company long enough and they&#x27;ll break your heart.<p>Also, we old geeks really know how to hold a grudge, especially if it involves a protocol or standard.
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newman8r将近 7 年前
Personally I just don&#x27;t like their software. One by one, I stopped using all of their products and services.<p>I wouldn&#x27;t say I hate Microsoft, but I wouldn&#x27;t be surprised if they changed github into something I wouldn&#x27;t want to use anymore.
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mindcrime将近 7 年前
<i>Why is there so much hatred and distrust of Microsoft?</i><p>Because a leopard never changes its spots, a zebra doesn&#x27;t change its stripes, and the scorpion always stings the frog in the end.<p>Or to put it another way: because they earned it.