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Samsung’s Chromebook Plus now supports Linux apps

119 点作者 artsandsci将近 7 年前

18 条评论

drcode将近 7 年前
I have the chromebook plus and just want to caution that this support is super early and there are significant shortcomings at the moment (lots of apps crash when trying to use the clipboard &amp; java based apps seem to crash intermittently for unexplained reasons) but likely this will clear up in the coming weeks, given the fast pace of bug fixes in crostini so far.<p>In contrast, the Pixelbook (currently on sale for $750) has the exact same feature set but is very stable- This is the one I&#x27;d recommend any person to buy who wants to use a chromebook for development.<p>Also, I have a clojure project and it takes 24 seconds to build on the Pixelbook, but takes 64 seconds on the Chromebook Plus- Keep in mind the Chromebook Plus uses the same ARM processor as a typical phone, so this is still very impressive for a compiler running inside a VM.
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anderber将近 7 年前
It&#x27;s still very early on, but I feel like this is a game changer for Chromebooks. Between web apps, Android apps and now Linux apps, they will become very developer friendly.
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bonyt将近 7 年前
This is cool. I&#x27;ve got a couple Chromebooks where I re-flashed the firmware (SeaBIOS or, more recently, Tianocore UEFI) to get a full linux distro running, but it looks like this will get you full linux software with Chrome OS&#x27;s security and containment features.[1]<p>Plus, it looks like Samsung&#x27;s Chromebook Plus is ARM based - I&#x27;ve wanted an ARM-based laptop for a while, where I&#x27;m willing to trade some power for battery life. And using a non-Intel machine is also just fun for the novelty of it.<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;techcrunch.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;05&#x2F;08&#x2F;you-can-now-run-linux-apps-on-chrome-os&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;techcrunch.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;05&#x2F;08&#x2F;you-can-now-run-linux-apps...</a>
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chimeracoder将近 7 年前
I have a Chromebook Plus, and I have to say, it&#x27;s not a device I&#x27;d recommend. I only use it as a tablet replacement (watching video and reading digital comics), and if manages to fail miserably at both of those.<p>As someone who uses Linux on all of his desktop and laptop devices, it kills me to say this, but if you&#x27;re looking for a tablet-like laptop, I&#x27;d recommend getting a previous generation Surface, which is about the same price, and a vastly better device.<p>I&#x27;ll just copy my previous comment[0] about the Chromebooks here.<p>I have a Samsung Chromebook Plus, and I absolutely despise it as a tablet. Compared to my Nexus 9 (which is still kicking), it&#x27;s a far inferior device. My primary uses for my tablet are watching video and reading comics. It manages to fail at both of those two things.<p>1. No system-wide support for red-tint (aka &quot;night mode&quot;, Flux, Twilight, etc.)[1]<p>2. Buggy rotation lock - this works very inconsistently across apps.<p>3. Heavy (compared to keyboard-less tablets)<p>4. Buggy soft keyboard (sometimes the soft keyboard just straight-up doesn&#x27;t work in certain apps, so I have to unfold the device from tablet mode just to use the hardware keyboard to type).<p>I still use my Nexus 9 over the Chromebook Plus every time I can. When my Nexus 9 dies, I&#x27;ll probably end up getting a Surface to replace it.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=17213097" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=17213097</a><p>[1] There is finally support for it on a per-user basis, but it took years for them to introduce this. And even now, if you close your tablet and have to unlock it again, you&#x27;ll be blinded by the unlock screen.
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ghaff将近 7 年前
I&#x27;m somewhat torn about feature creep on Chromebooks.<p>On the one hand, I like Chromebooks a lot and frequently travel with a small one.<p>On the other hand, as price tags creep up for the fancier models and laptop capabilities start getting added, at some point, I wonder why not just use a Linux laptop (or other laptop of choice). There are some tradeoffs like battery life but it almost feels that we&#x27;re recreating this sort of odd web browser&#x2F;laptop hybrid.<p>On still the other hand though, I suppose if an Android or Linux app gives you that one capability you feel you can&#x27;t live without on a Chromebook, what&#x27;s the harm?
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jug将近 7 年前
It&#x27;s stuff like this that is necessary to at the very least give &quot;Linux on the desktop&quot; a fighting chance.<p>It&#x27;s very welcome to me. I love where Linux has quietly got on the desktop over the last five years, sort of below the radar during all the Windows 10 ruckus and mobile OS happenings. Something like Linux Mint or Ubuntu strangely now feels <i>friendlier</i> and more <i>fun</i> than Windows (what happened there!) and with a higher average quality &quot;app store&quot; too, i.e. the good old repositories with friendly UI&#x27;s. Microsoft Store is still a cesspool in many respects and so sad to watch at times.<p>I think this new wave of Chromebooks will be very useful at least to me, especially as complements to my stationary PC and smartphone, instead of a tablet. They seem to get what it takes to be so versatile and fun to use, as a home user and developer catching a breath after the work hours.
simonh将近 7 年前
My concern with this is how well such apps will integrate into the native Chromebook environment. I don&#x27;t think just being able to run arbitrary Xwindows apps will be all that interesting outside the geek&#x2F;developer community. To be truly useful the apps need to work well with each other, with ChromeOS services like notifications, etc. How will application storage and file sharing, and backups be managed? How will integration with Google Drive work?<p>On all these points, the details of how the user experience works really matter. I hope Google has seriously thought all this through for once, and isn&#x27;t just throwing this in as a feature because they think it&#x27;s easy. I would actually much rather this was a custom native app framework specifically for the Chromebook environment, than just putting in a Wayland server and calling it done.
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hammerandtongs将近 7 年前
I&#x27;d be interested but ...<p>4gig ram.<p>Nice screens, reasonable processing power but they throttle the ram to make you want to spend the $500-750 for the &quot;power&quot; of.... 8 gigs of ram. But with the bloat of a useless(to me) windows license included.<p>How long is the chromebook spec going to stay like this? It&#x27;s awful and holding them back.<p>It&#x27;s nonsensical in 2018 to have this little ram on a laptop,chromebooks included but there it is still.
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SN76477将近 7 年前
I just got a chromebook plus 12 hours ago. Nifty.
gd2将近 7 年前
Maybe I gave up too soon, but I could not get either Android Studio or VS Code Studio running, because of ARM. I figure those issue get solved by people who know better than me soon.<p>Anyone able to point to simpler instructions on how stand up containers on CB+?
ams6110将近 7 年前
I&#x27;ve been using Termux to run linux software on a chromebook for about a year now.
WindowsFon4life将近 7 年前
Very nice.Been using the bsd&#x2F;Linux support to run all my favorite Android apps. X11 throguh xiwi is seamless and already provides the gnu&#x2F;Linux apps I need.
paulie_a将近 7 年前
The problem is that it is Samsung so I&#x27;m assuming they put a bunch of their custom shit software on it.
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kingosticks将近 7 年前
Is this particular Chromebook US only?
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shmerl将近 7 年前
Is it VM or native support? Also, what kind of display server does it use in such case?
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hcs将近 7 年前
Stupid question: how is this better than crouton?
jacksmith21006将近 7 年前
Been using the new gnu&#x2F;Linux support on my PB and has been really stable and just love it. My wife does have a CB+ I got her to replace her iPad but she uses to play animal crossing with a stylus more than anything and not into software development.<p>Finally having a big company like Google supporting gnu&#x2F;Linux with a commercial offering is a big plus. But then also get Android.<p>Love how they implemented as secure and separate. So containers between gnu&#x2F;Linux applications and then gnu&#x2F;Linux sandboxed from ChromeOS and Android.
jklinger410将近 7 年前
I have heard Chrome OS is going to support Android apps and Linux apps yet these rollouts are always so delayed and limited that it&#x27;s not even worth discussing.<p>Wow, 2% of the Chrome OS ecosystem now has access to something that will barely get used and may or may not actually end up in future releases. The Google ecosystem could not be any more fragmented.