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Theranos Didn't Just Harm Investors

159 点作者 joering2将近 7 年前

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tptacek将近 7 年前
Levine spends a good chunk of this engaging with Felix Salmon&#x27;s Slate article about how many startups could be charged with wire fraud.<p>But I think Salmon overstates his case and oversimplifies wire fraud and I&#x27;m a little surprised Levine, a lawyer, doesn&#x27;t catch him on this.<p>Salmon says wire fraud is among the easiest crimes to prove: everything is done by wire now, so &quot;you show the lie, you show the wire, boom&quot;. But it&#x27;s actually not enough to show a &quot;lie&quot; and then a &quot;wire&quot;. Check out a federal court&#x27;s model jury instructions for wire fraud. The burden on the prosecutor is higher than showing simple dishonesty; they have to prove &quot;intent to defraud&quot;, which means that the accused had to have lied deliberately in order to cheat victims. There are, even in the jury instructions themselves, multiple mitigating factors for &quot;intent to defraud&quot;. And, aside from that, there&#x27;s a legal difference between that and wildly extrapolating from realistic revenue forecasts to irrationally high outcomes you merely <i>hope</i> could happen if everything breaks your way.<p>I think you can make the case that Balwani and Holmes got indicted because their dishonesty was unusually brazen and directly connected to the business they were in. They lied about what they were doing in the (then) present tense. They didn&#x27;t make simply make unrealistic forecasts or put the rosiest possible color on how their engineering work was going; they fabricated entire medical procedures.
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madengr将近 7 年前
Just finished Bad Blood. Hopefully they both get felony prison time, and there is precedence for it. I don&#x27;t see how it&#x27;s any different than a pharmacist diluting drugs. After diluting blood samples, they purposely doctored the statistics to reduce the deviation.
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toss1将近 7 年前
The patients are indeed potentially hurt more than anybody in this fraud, and it makes it much more egregious than the more ordinary silicon-valley &lt;fake it till you make it&gt; fraud (&amp; I&#x27;ve been angry about since before it was popular to hate on Theranos).<p>However, in ending with &quot;the venture capitalists are just fine&quot;, the article also completely misses another class of people who are also hurt by these types of fraud -- all the other more worthy honest startups that went unfunded or under-funded when Theranos sucked $700 million out of the investment ecosystem.<p>All of the other bogus companies mentioned ( Hampton Creek; Zenefits; Lending Club; Skully; ScoreBig; Rothenberg Ventures; Faraday Future; Hyperloop One...), and many others not only suck the life out of the system, they destroy the ability of other honest startups to make it.<p>The VCs legitimately risk failure; it&#x27;s the nature of VC.<p>But they aren&#x27;t supposed to be risking fraud, which is perhaps why they don&#x27;t catch it as much as they should in Due Diligence. Seems they need to do better Due Diligence, checking not only whether everything matches their expectations, but also whether it actually is what it is represented to be.
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matchagaucho将近 7 年前
Are there any questions as to the validity of Theranos&#x27; IP portfolio? Or was the tech all junk science too?<p>The list of assigned patents looks impressive. Perhaps something that could be developed further by an acquirer?<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;patft.uspto.gov&#x2F;netacgi&#x2F;nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&amp;Sect2=HITOFF&amp;p=1&amp;u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&amp;r=0&amp;f=S&amp;l=50&amp;TERM1=Theranos&amp;FIELD1=&amp;co1=AND&amp;TERM2=&amp;FIELD2=&amp;d=PTXT" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;patft.uspto.gov&#x2F;netacgi&#x2F;nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&amp;Sect2=H...</a>
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purplezooey将近 7 年前
So the question remains, though, is her baritone voice an act, or is it her real one?
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rdlecler1将近 7 年前
Interesting background on wirefraud. It seems like any company that says, “we will” in their crunchbase profile could be liable.