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Alfred Anaya Put Secret Compartments in Cars so the DEA Put Him in Prison (2013)

120 点作者 joering2将近 7 年前

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tzs将近 7 年前
(Repeat of comment from discussion almost four years ago, with minor spelling and style edits):<p>The article mentioned he was appealing. That has happened and he lost. Here is the appellate court opinion: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cases.justia.com&#x2F;federal&#x2F;appellate-courts&#x2F;ca10&#x2F;12-3010&#x2F;12-3010-2013-08-16.pdf?ts=1411095378" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cases.justia.com&#x2F;federal&#x2F;appellate-courts&#x2F;ca10&#x2F;12-30...</a><p>Something is mentioned there that either was not mentioned in the Wired article or I missed it: Anaya admits that he knew particular customers were buying compartments for illegal purposes. He just didn&#x27;t know what particular illegal use they were going to be put to. He&#x27;s basically arguing that to &quot;knowingly&quot; join a conspiracy, you have to know its objectives and scope, and he says he lacked that knowledge.<p>It&#x27;s probably a bad idea to do business with people who want to use code words when they talk to you on the phone. The appeals court mentions an intercepted call where Anaya told the drug traders he could put &quot;3 speakers&quot; in a Camry for $2,500, where &quot;3 speakers&quot; meant a compartment to hold 3 kilos.<p>His sentence is way too long. He&#x27;s not the linchpin of the drug trade the prosecution made him out to be, but he does not appear to be quite the innocent bystander Wired makes him out to be either.
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kstenerud将近 7 年前
As a well traveled non-American, the US justice system truly boggles the mind. Elected judges, jury trials, vengeance-oriented punishments, complete lack of rehabilitation or reintegration, medieval prison conditions... In Iraq, I wouldn&#x27;t be surprised. In the USA, I&#x27;m simply aghast.
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PurpleBoxDragon将近 7 年前
In this particular case, he had all reason to believe his work was being used by some to do illegal things. But even then, is that any different than the people who work on TOR knowing full well it is used to abuse children, or who work on military weapons knowing that innocent people are targeted? Should a gun seller who has reason to believe the buyer might do something illegal with their be punished for making the sell anymore than any of the tech products used to circumvent laws (from minor laws dealing with content piracy to major laws dealing with child abuse)?<p>Can we draw a definite consistent lines on where helping criminals commit crimes is moral, where it is immoral, where it is legal, and where it is illegal?
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ahallock将近 7 年前
The State is extremely punitive, especially when inconvenienced. So many people are happy about handing power to these institutions, but get in the way of them, inconvenience them, and they&#x27;ll stomp you out of existence. They have a myriad of legal weapons, which will only grow over time, so even if you think you&#x27;re complying with the law, there&#x27;s probably something you missed, or some loophole they can use.<p>&gt; Curtis Crow and Cesar Bonilla Montiel, the men at the top of the organization, received sentences half that length.<p>The sentence length shows how punitive this was. They wanted to make an example out of Alfred because he made their jobs harder.
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leoh将近 7 年前
If you are against his 24 year imprisonment, his family has a Gofundme <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gofundme.com&#x2F;r4d2ys" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gofundme.com&#x2F;r4d2ys</a>
scarface74将近 7 年前
I’m torn. On one hand, he knew what he was doing was on the edge of the law and he knew he was abetting illegal activity. But on the other hand, in tech, we have something like the DMCA where companies can be found harmless if they are abetting illegal activity as long as they aren’t directly complicit.<p>Also, the drug trade would never happen without the help of corrupt white collar criminals who are never prosecuted. Law enforcement could have offered him witness protection. His biggest fear was endangering his family.<p>From another perspective even on that, I wouldn’t put myself in a position where I’m surrounding myself with dangerous people. His completely above board speaker installation business probably could have supported him.<p>Yeah, I’m being really ambivalent about the situation. I’m no lover of the “War on Drugs” or the “justice system”, but he knew what he was doing.
dfundako将近 7 年前
Discussed quite a while ago: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=8443727" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=8443727</a>
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eanaya将近 7 年前
I&#x27;m alfred anaya older sister. He doesnt deserve 24 years in prison. He has served his time. Hoping for a miracle and hope the law of first drug offenders comes through and that he is selected to be free. His kids and family miss him so much. He&#x27;s not a bad person.
vuluvu将近 7 年前
From the school of bad faction, un-fucking-readable,Tom Wolfe would be rolling in his grave :]
joshuaheard将近 7 年前
I remember this article ... from 2013.
mnm1将近 7 年前
It&#x27;s so sad that such a wonderful creative person&#x27;s life is once again destroyed by dea and prosecutor scum. These barbaric scumbags are the ones who should be jailed without parole for making our society so violent and ugly. While the blame is shared with lawmakers, who are equally to blame for their barbaric hate that created such laws, the power lies with police and prosecutors to properly enforce and not enforce laws. Unfortunately in the US, the only incentives police have for their actions are money and power. Of course the uphold the status quo. It makes them richer and more powerful at the expense of other people&#x27;s lives. Them being under the umbrella of &quot;justice&quot; allows them and the general, idiot public to pretend like these actions are not barbaric and evil, that these actions are not motivated by hate, racism, and greed. But people with even half a brain can see through this facade. Too bad such people are in such a minority, they never even have a chance to get on juries. That&#x27;s how the final piece of the puzzle falls into place. Being judged by a jury of morons. This is so called &quot;justice&quot; so that we can all pretend we live in a civilized society as long as it doesn&#x27;t affect us. One day, I hope these police and prosecutor scum will pay for the lives they&#x27;ve ruined and the people they have tortured and murdered. I hope...