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Is timeless UI design a thing?

273 点作者 sandrobfc将近 7 年前

27 条评论

deltron3030将近 7 年前
Here&#x27;s the inspiration for that article: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.aisleone.net&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.aisleone.net&#x2F;</a><p>A very good and reknown site about the international style.<p>Apart from the Swiss stuff, or the beginnings at the Bauhaus most people know about, the Ulm school of design is interesting for the holistic approach to design.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Ulm_School_of_Design" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Ulm_School_of_Design</a><p>My personal feeling is that we&#x27;re already leaving the reincanation of the international style (when it comes to UI), and are moving &quot;back&quot; into Art Nouveau or Jugendstil, digital with a analog touch (this will be huge with AR I think, because it blends both worlds). AR is the medium where skeumorphism will reinvent itself I think, it&#x27;s natural and at home in that environment.
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Animats将近 7 年前
When the Panama Canal was nearing completion, there was talk of adding decoration, and a group of artists and sculptors was sent to look at the locks. They came back with a report. The entire project had been designed to be purely functional with no attention to decoration. Adding any decoration would be superfluous and would make it look worse. So, no stone lions or fluted columns or brass eagles or obelisks. Just the huge masses of poured concrete and steel, and the whitewashed control buildings with tan tile roofs. They still look good after a century of operation.
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bloopernova将近 7 年前
It&#x27;s probably been discussed to death, and I apologize if you are rolling your eyes at its mere mention: I really, really like the Solarized colour scheme.<p>It&#x27;s now deeply ingrained into my &quot;visual muscle memory&quot; that a terminal without Solarized just looks wrong to me. Even text editors look strange and jarring without those familiar and soothing colours.<p>It&#x27;s interesting that the colours in that Swiss Style Color Picker (linked from the article) seem to be taken from a similar visual family of colours (shades? hues? I am not literate in colour&#x27;s language).
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iambateman将近 7 年前
There is most certainly timeless user-interface design.<p>Look at a book from 500 years ago compared to a book today. While the underlying tech is completely changed, the fundamental principles of book-user interaction remain the same.<p>A lamp in the 1920’s had a screw bulb and a switch.<p>The piano has kept 88 keys and 3 pedals for centuries.<p>The asdf keyboard layout will never change.<p>When it comes to website design, we see some standardization happening across the industry for what a website ought to be. I expect the homogenization will continue as websites get measured for business results and find local optima for solving the various problems.
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johnchristopher将近 7 年前
Just a rambling note: that kind of light switch used in the article header is the kind of timeless design I dislike. When the light bulb needs to be replaced I can&#x27;t tell anymore which position is on or off and if I am getting a burn when screwing the replacement in. It&#x27;s even worse when there are multiple switches for the same light bulb :D.<p>Funny thing is that the same experience is conveyed through skeuomorphic interfaces more often than not. &#x2F;rambling_off
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ThomPete将近 7 年前
UI Design can be timeless in the sense that it becomes the adopted standard for specific usage by a given culture and that this culture by default uses the solution so much that everyone knows it&#x27;s meaning.<p>It&#x27;s however not because of some objective universal criteria but instead that no other solution has been needed which made it worth changing that standard.<p>Intuition is learned within the confines of the culture that understand the reference.<p>The desktop metaphor isn&#x27;t timeless it&#x27;s just one that society has invested enough time that it becomes shared understanding<p>In that sense, it&#x27;s not different than a language where no specific word or sentence or meaning is objective in itself but rather points to something that &quot;everyone&quot; understands.
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westoncb将近 7 年前
&gt; Remember the round cornered buttons? Yeah, I remember too. The only way it&#x27;s okay for a designer to use them now is if it&#x27;s #ironic. So keep it functional, not decorative. The round corners were never suiting any purpose.<p>But you have to choose <i>some</i> shape for them to be; why is square the default&#x2F;baseline, and round the modification (the one with &#x27;something added&#x27;)? You could equally well say to, &quot;just use round corners, keep it functional, not decorative—we austere users of the internet don&#x27;t require any flashy straight-edged ornamentation.&quot;<p>I&#x27;m sure someone can give me an argument about how the straight edges make it easier for the eyes to associate aligned items or something like that, but if you&#x27;re just slightly rounding some rectangles, not using ovals or something, the difference will be negligible.<p>The problem isn&#x27;t introducing aesthetic qualities for their own sake—it&#x27;s only a problem when you <i>exchange</i> something with a concrete purpose because you give higher value to the purely aesthetic thing.<p>(The quote uses the term &#x27;decorate,&#x27; which ordinarily I think is a good choice, since in the case of decorations, you&#x27;re <i>adding</i> content, which can lead to useless clutter—but! my opening argument here is basically that choosing round over square is <i>not</i> decorative in that sense.)<p>So, I&#x27;m left with the feeling that the quote really just comes down to justifying the newer bandwagon.
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arikr将近 7 年前
My contribution: the Lindy effect applies to design.<p>The longer something has been considered good design, the longer it is likely to remain good design.<p>If a design has been good for 100 years, it&#x27;ll probably be good for another 100 years.<p>If a design has only been good for a year or two, you should expect that it&#x27;ll have a much shorter lifespan.
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ainar-g将近 7 年前
Some examples of what I consider timeless (and good) UI on the internet:<p>* Hacker News (duh)<p>* c2 wiki<p>* Wikipedia (it changes, but thankfully not radically)<p>I would have added Reddit, but alas. Seeing how they plan to change to that... other thing makes me really sad.<p>Anything else?
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huhtenberg将近 7 年前
Regardless of the TIMELESSNESS of UI design matters having THIRTY percent of TEXT emphasized is REALLY quite annoying.
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swaggyBoatswain将近 7 年前
I find math-based designs to be really appealing for a timeless logo design<p>A good example of this is twitters design<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;designshack.net&#x2F;articles&#x2F;graphics&#x2F;twitters-new-logo-the-geometry-and-evolution-of-our-favorite-bird&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;designshack.net&#x2F;articles&#x2F;graphics&#x2F;twitters-new-logo-...</a>
dwaltrip将近 7 年前
The answer given by the article:<p>&gt; There&#x27;s no such thing as timeless design, because it&#x27;s too dependent on its context, but one can shoot for longevity.<p>E.g. Obviously, there is no such thing perfectly timeless, as the only universal constant is that things change over time. But one can minimize dependence on current context, and attempt to tap into the slower changing, more fundamental aspects of today&#x27;s world. In this respect, the artist shares some similarity with the scientist.
godzillabrennus将近 7 年前
To me timeless UI was achieved with Mac OS X Tiger (10.4) and has been eroded with time.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;upload.wikimedia.org&#x2F;wikipedia&#x2F;fi&#x2F;7&#x2F;75&#x2F;Mac_OS_X_10.4_Tiger.png" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;upload.wikimedia.org&#x2F;wikipedia&#x2F;fi&#x2F;7&#x2F;75&#x2F;Mac_OS_X_10.4...</a>
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devxpy将近 7 年前
This really needs to be a thing with OS ui.<p>Changing UI in gnome world, and linux world in general is a real problem. Why can&#x27;t stuff just stay where I rememeber it is!<p>Mac OS does quite well in this area, at least compared to windows and linux. It still maintains familiar menus, while the look and feel still looks modern.
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krsdcbl将近 7 年前
The web &amp; almost any gui lacks one important characteristics for timelessness - simply: time.<p>What we consider timeless in other desogn disciplines are patterns that emerged throughout many centuries of cultural transformation.<p>Digital UI is not only much much younger, it also enables sheer endless variation of any functional pattern, arbitrary design.<p>I would argue much of the UX patterns we established so far, be it the button or a slideshow, windows &amp; menus, all these UI conventions are barebone concepts that already are timeless - and when it comes to styling, looks, it&#x27;s very well possible to design in a way that is already timeless, it&#x27;s just paint. And some of today&#x27;s design schools will become timeless in time
6ue7nNMEEbHcM将近 7 年前
Please if you ever succeed in any timeless design, please don&#x27;t make it like the linked article.<p>It&#x27;s horrible, it takes like 1&#x2F;4th of the screen horizontally, with majority of the space taken by the blank spots.<p>I don&#x27;t know why people nowadays make everything look awful so it looks &quot;the same&quot; on all devices.<p>Please don&#x27;t do that. It makes it more difficult to estimate the length of the text, it&#x27;s irritating since you need to scroll constantly and it looks bad.
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gdubs将近 7 年前
It comes down to designing according to a set of principles, rather than fads. Then, you use the best available tools to align as tightly to those principles as possible.<p>It doesn&#x27;t have to be boring either. A principle of Wired in the early 90s was to be outrageous and loud. Clashing colors and unreadable type completely aligned with their principles - and it was great.<p>When new technology comes around, you evolve if it allows you to get closer to your principles.<p>Look at fashion – as full of fads as anything. Yet there are timeless items: well constructed denim; simple and unadorned. A basic, nicely cut tee-shirt. A simple black dress. Oxfords, Vans. Why are they timeless? Because they align with principles that are unchanging: Simple, honest, functional, versatile, easy to maintain.<p>And if your fashion principle is to stand out, then yea, each individual item of clothing will not be timeless. But the principle will be.<p>Same applies to design in any medium.
billysielu将近 7 年前
So apply these designs to the principles from the brutalist post the other day and you have a site that looks good and is easy to use.
kgin将近 7 年前
&gt; Remember the round cornered buttons? Yeah, I remember too. The only way it&#x27;s okay for a designer to use them now is if it&#x27;s #ironic.<p>What am I missing here? The latest guidelines for Material Design and iOS have round corner buttons.
stevenwoo将近 7 年前
This feels like a subset of The Design of Everyday Things with some specific additions for corporate logos, it&#x27;s unclear to me if the author has read the book or is unfamiliar with it and unintentionally references the first chapter in the conclusion.
randop将近 7 年前
Have not yet seen a full UI that have not undergone change. But, there are UI elements that have stand the test of time.<p>The best example I can think of is Letters and Numbers. We have been using them for a long time to communicate and interact with each other.
catchmeifyoucan将近 7 年前
I like rounded corners.<p>Arguably they serve a purpose; easier on the eyes when you have groups of elements.
moretai将近 7 年前
I am a programmer, and I think I&#x27;d like to pivot into design&#x2F;graphic design&#x2F;ux&#x2F;etc. I just want to make pretty stuff. I want to make cool looking stuff. Is there any advice some of you can impart?
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oliv__将近 7 年前
Is hipster UI design a thing?
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parallel_item将近 7 年前
A clock face is a timeless UI
wpdev_63将近 7 年前
No - every UI becomes stale after years of use. Just ask apple.
sahillavingia将近 7 年前
&gt; The only &quot;intuitive&quot; interface is the nipple. After that it&#x27;s all learned.
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