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Mozilla to Remove Support for Built-In Feed Reader from Firefox

145 点作者 HelenePhisher将近 7 年前

28 条评论

treve将近 7 年前
It&#x27;s understandable that this is done, given the usage numbers. I&#x27;ve never really used live bookmarks in the past 10 years, but I always had the &#x27;feed&#x27; navigation button appear if a site has a feed.<p>It still saddens me, because it&#x27;s another nail in the coffin for an important technology. It&#x27;s technologies like Atom&#x2F;RSS that once broke us out of silos. We&#x27;re back in the silo though, and I would love Mozilla to lead the front in breaking us out again.<p>Maybe it&#x27;s not RSS and Atom that lead us into the next revolution. Maybe it&#x27;s activityfeed? I want it badly though.
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dh-g将近 7 年前
I replicated FF live bookmark handling for Chrome years ago via an extension. This morning I laughed when I saw users opening github issues asking to port that extension to FF.<p>extension: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;chrome.google.com&#x2F;webstore&#x2F;detail&#x2F;foxish-live-rss&#x2F;jpgagcapnkccceppgljfpoadahaopjdb?hl=en" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;chrome.google.com&#x2F;webstore&#x2F;detail&#x2F;foxish-live-rss&#x2F;jp...</a>
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netghost将近 7 年前
For what it&#x27;s worth, I just recently released a simple feed reader that sits in Firefox&#x27;s sidebar. It&#x27;s meant to blend in as much as possible in the vein of the older Firefox plugin Sage. You can import OPML files from all your favorite sources (probably).<p>Extension is here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;addons.mozilla.org&#x2F;en-US&#x2F;firefox&#x2F;addon&#x2F;brook-feed-reader&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;addons.mozilla.org&#x2F;en-US&#x2F;firefox&#x2F;addon&#x2F;brook-feed-re...</a><p>The full source is here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;adamsanderson&#x2F;brook" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;adamsanderson&#x2F;brook</a><p>Even if you don&#x27;t fancy using it, you may find the source handy if you want to build an extension yourself. Also if you&#x27;re interested, I&#x27;d love feedback, suggestions and bug reports.
AdmiralAsshat将近 7 年前
Can&#x27;t say I was even aware of it, much less used it.<p>I have a perfectly serviceable FOSS application to be my desktop Feed Reader (Liferea), but to be honest I never really use <i>that</i>, either. Wading through my news feed is now an activity that I do almost exclusively through Feedly on my phone or tablet, usually either while I&#x27;m having my morning coffee or as I&#x27;m winding down for bed.<p>I suppose if Mozilla had done a better job of advertising it I might&#x27;ve given it a second look. FWIW, Firefox&#x27;s &quot;Reader Mode&quot; is <i>fantastic</i>, and if they had somehow combined that with the RSS reader, particularly on Firefox Mobile for Android where I do the majority of my reading, I probably would&#x27;ve been all-in. I don&#x27;t believe Feedly is open source, so having one that is would be preferable in case Feedly ever decides to go the way of Google Reader and&#x2F;or Pulse (which just went to garbage after LinkedIn bought it).
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Grumbledour将近 7 年前
I feel this is a disgrace!<p>Not the removal of live bookmarks, it&#x27;s fair to expect this to be an extension, but the removal of feed discovery. of course, it wont matter that much to most people, since Mozilla removed that functionality from the URL bar years ago and put it into a button that is not visible by default, thus making sure Joe Average never needs to think about what an RSS feed could be. I would argue that started the trend many sites picked up, where there are still feeds available, but they are nearly impossible to find unless you stumble upon some old sub page via a search engine that used to advertise them and someone forgot to delete it when it was unlinked.<p>Honestly, RSS is great and I don&#x27;t see it dying anytime soon, but there will also be no more adaption, because it is just such a technical topic and is nearly impossible to discover the feeds and how they work unless someone knowledgeable shows it to you.<p>And for a web browser to have no option of displaying available feeds to the user is just embarrassing. But then, that also was the death of micro formats as useful to end-users, having no UI available to interact meaningfully.
GordonS将近 7 年前
I&#x27;ve been using a Firefox extension to read RSS feeds for years - the built-in RSS functionality has always been far too basic for real use.<p>Still, I&#x27;d have much rather seen Mozilla build better RSS functionality, rather than simply removing it altogether.
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severine将近 7 年前
I&#x27;m a heavy user of live bookmarks. Best way to check headlines or blog updates quickly.<p>It&#x27;s sad to see it go, but I&#x27;m sure an extension (hi, dh-g!) will surface, and the situation for fans of the feature will remain the same or even better in the end.<p>Still the best browser for the savvy user.
jeffbax将近 7 年前
I don&#x27;t think browsers make the best feed readers, but it&#x27;d be nice if they at least offered a button to detect them by default. I guess its fine to want an extension to do that, but anything that gives RSS more visibility is a win to me, even if its best consumed in a different app.
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nuclearburrito将近 7 年前
In my mind, this is a good thing. Browsers should do one thing well. They should support the standards, but not be everything but the kitchen sink. I don&#x27;t want Pocket, which is what I think they are trying to drive people towards. I&#x27;ve disabled it under about:config. I want a browser. More and more, I find myself using uzbl-tabbed under Arch Linux because it does one thing well. I use Mozilla now for multimedia and that&#x27;s about it. My bank also balks at uzbl-tabbed. As a *nix guy for three decades, I simply cannot escape the &quot;do one thing well&quot; paradigm. It just simply works.
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bennyp101将近 7 年前
I actually use this feature quite a bit, I have various sites (HN included) in my toolbar so it makes it nice and easy to have a quick look and see if there is something interesting.<p>Hopefully there will be a nice simple replacement extension (or maybe it will give me a chance to make something myself!)
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dwheeler将近 7 年前
I&#x27;m concerned about this, because its removal makes it harder for basic users to use RSS&#x2F;Atom. The web has become unreasonably centralized, and feed readers + RSS is tool that enables the web to be more decentralized. Yes, some people can install a separate reader, but many can&#x27;t, and Feedly (etc.) provide more features than some people need. Some people really do need only the basics.
breput将近 7 年前
FWIW, there is a very nice sidebar-based Firefox RSS add-on called Drop Feeds - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;addons.mozilla.org&#x2F;en-US&#x2F;firefox&#x2F;addon&#x2F;drop-feeds&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;addons.mozilla.org&#x2F;en-US&#x2F;firefox&#x2F;addon&#x2F;drop-feeds&#x2F;</a><p>It is very similar to the pre-WebExtensions Sage&#x2F;SageToo&#x2F;Sage++ add-ons.
nachtigall将近 7 年前
I am a big fan of RSS feeds but have never used the built-in reader, but the add-on brief. Highly recommended to follows blogs, reddit or any kind of forum:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;addons.mozilla.org&#x2F;en-US&#x2F;firefox&#x2F;addon&#x2F;brief&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;addons.mozilla.org&#x2F;en-US&#x2F;firefox&#x2F;addon&#x2F;brief&#x2F;</a>
pmlnr将近 7 年前
They could have done this when they got rid of the RSS icon in the URL bar.
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megous将近 7 年前
Also removed in the next version is The Developer Toolbar (accessed with Shift+F2).<p>Another thing I never used or knew existed. :)
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tlynchpin将近 7 年前
As a long time Mozilla user, I recently found Waterfox[1] and it is terrific! I found out about it here on HN so here I am spreading the Good News.<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.waterfoxproject.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.waterfoxproject.org&#x2F;</a>
simion314将近 7 年前
I see many recommending extensions but IMO is a good idea to minimize the number of extensions you use, if it was a Mozilla or other trustworthy entity behind the extension then it should be safer to install it.
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romdev将近 7 年前
It&#x27;s hard to imagine using a stripped down browser-based feed reader after using an excellent dedicated application like NewsBlur. Did FireFox synchronize your read stories across devices?
rauhl将近 7 年前
I’m pretty sad to see it go, although to be honest I’ve been using elfeed for awhile now. I wish that the promise of RSS &amp; the open web had been fulfilled.
WhyNotHugo将近 7 年前
I&#x27;ve moved to using rss2email YEARS ago.<p>The basic idea is that RSS gets polled, and you get an email for new entries.<p>Your email client handles read&#x2F;unread status, has labels&#x2F;filtering, and can keep stuff in sync across devices. Plus, you&#x27;ve like A MILLION clients to choose from.<p>I run this as a cron script, but I&#x27;m pretty sure there&#x27;s very cheap services out there that do the same (if not, here&#x27;s a good business idea).
onli将近 7 年前
I hope feed rendering will still work. Live bookmarks where a bit cumbersome anyway, but feeds should still be properly rendered. They are an important part of the web.<p>Maybe this cleanup can be used to bring back the rss icon in the url bar and to link it with a better way to subscribe to feeds in a web based rss reader?
smileypete将近 7 年前
Still on Firefox 55 because I love the LiveClick RSS addon which didn&#x27;t survive the switch to WebExtensions.<p>More and more I&#x27;m using AutoIt to provide extra features instead of a collection of addons, so I&#x27;m thinking doing the same for LiveClick.
a3n将近 7 年前
I use it to keep track of my pinboard tags, each of which has an associated RSS feed.
JohnTHaller将近 7 年前
Could they, perhaps, leave the indication of a feed being available for a given site as an optional component of the UI with the ability to pass to things like Feedly? I find it very useful.
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fusiongyro将近 7 年前
I found this feature perplexing even when I did use RSS.
infinityplus1将近 7 年前
It&#x27;s the first thing I use whenever I open Firefox since years. Feeling sad about it
manicdee将近 7 年前
I love following these &quot;RSS is dead&quot; discussions from my RSS feed reader.
ccnafr将近 7 年前
It&#x27;s not really such a big deal. Everyone uses dedicated feed readers nowadays. Feedly mainly.
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