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A time in 1994 when Steve Jobs got to use a device like an iPhone

470 点作者 pr0zac将近 7 年前

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GeekyBear将近 7 年前
I&#x27;d have to say that the General Magic user interface (Magic Cap) was much more similar to the user interface in Microsoft Bob than an iPhone.<p>&gt;Microsoft Bob presented screens showing a &quot;house&quot;, with &quot;rooms&quot; that the user could go to containing familiar objects corresponding to computer applications—for instance, a desk with pen and paper, a checkbook, and other items. In this case, clicking on the pen and paper would open the word processor.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Microsoft_Bob" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Microsoft_Bob</a><p>Here&#x27;s a short overview of a device running Magic Cap and it&#x27;s user interface for comparison.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.microsoft.com&#x2F;buxtoncollection&#x2F;detail.aspx?id=37" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.microsoft.com&#x2F;buxtoncollection&#x2F;detail.aspx?id=37</a>
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blacksqr将近 7 年前
I worked at Motorola on the team building the Envoy GM device.<p>When GM first proposed the idea of a handheld digital assistant in the immediate pre-WWW era, e-mail was catching on as the hot new novelty, and GM&#x27;s pitch to its partners was that you could go to the store, buy a device and have an e-mail account by doing little more than turning the thing on. Easy enough for Grandma to do was the idea.<p>When I came aboard the project was 18 months along and they thought they were on the verge of shipping. But the software was buggy and the API unstable, so partners had a hard time integrating it with their hardware.<p>Another 18 months went by before devices finally shipped, still buggy. But in that time AOL had grown exponentially and captured the concept of easy e-mail access in the minds of the masses. GM had no compelling alternative story they could replace their original pitch with, and their partners had lost patience and interest. Motorola put only minimal money into marketing the Envoy device.<p>That&#x27;s my recollection of the dynamics that led to GM&#x27;s failure.
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flanbiscuit将近 7 年前
This is first time I&#x27;m learning about this company. Interesting read.<p>This part:<p>&quot;General Magic came to an excruciating end. Tony went on to build the iPhone, Andy Rubin built Android, Pierre Omidyar built eBay, Megan Smith became VP of Google and then America’s CTO, Kevin Lynch built apple Watch…I could keep going.&quot;<p>Reminded me of Jorodosky&#x27;s Dune and how the team he gathered went on the do iconic films&#x2F;art
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laser将近 7 年前
Interesting timing for this article and documentary to emerge, while a modern company with so many parallels, Magic Leap, is apparently releasing their device in the coming days. As General Magic was an ambitious and visionary precursor to the iPhone, so it seems Magic Leap may be the ambitious and visionary precursor to a mainstream spatial computing headset of the not-too-distant future.<p>With recent leaks of the 40 degree FOV and headset footage, it seems that Magic Leap, like General Magic, has not yet been able to deliver the technology necessary for widespread appeal. This time around, at least Magic Leap has raised a war chest so large, perhaps they can move forward with a far improved version 2 and continue operations and development, given only modest sales.<p>Hopefully Magic Leap can learn a lesson here and avoid becoming a General Magic (although, if it does, it was still a worthwhile effort to push the field forward, as General Magic did).
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vardump将近 7 年前
Nokia 9000 is another old smartphone from 1996. Features a web browser, email client, telnet, etc. Grayscale 640x200 display.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Nokia_9000_Communicator" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Nokia_9000_Communicator</a>
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et-al将近 7 年前
Sidenote: the author of the post (Chris MacAskill) is also the co-founder of SmugMug which recently acquired Flickr. And apparently he also runs <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;advrider.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;advrider.com&#x2F;</a>. Quite the renaissance person.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cake.co&#x2F;users&#x2F;Chris" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cake.co&#x2F;users&#x2F;Chris</a>
AlphaWeaver将近 7 年前
A new book came out recently about the history of Silicon Valley called &quot;Valley of Genius: The Uncensored History of Silicon Valley&quot;. I&#x27;ve been working my way through the audiobook and it tells the story of General Magic in there. Would 100% recommend- it filled me with the same excitement as reading Steven Levy&#x27;s original &quot;Hackers&quot;.
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post_break将近 7 年前
I love the part about telling Steve that Sculley owned the same Mercedes. That&#x27;s pro level trolling right there.
qubex将近 7 年前
I had one of these SONY-branded devices, in Italy, gifted to me by an American relative when I must’ve been 13 or 14. I absolutely loved it even though it a bit less functionality than my PSION 3a. Ultimately it met a gruesome end when a school bully purposefully smashed its screen in an act of jealous spite.
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protomyth将近 7 年前
Having owned one, the Magic Cap OS is nothing like an iPhone. Plus, it crashed a lot. I loved the idea and Telescript is an under-copied language, but the Newton with the cellphone (Motorola Marco) was a better attempt at what the iPhone would be.
mattkevan将近 7 年前
Thomas Dolby [0] has a great anecdote about meeting Marc Porat and Bill Gates in his autobiography ‘The Speed of Sound’<p>“Marc Porat and I were eyeball-to-eyeball as he continued to fill me in about his company. Marc didn’t notice, but across the table, Bill Gates was ignoring the sycophants to his left and right, and straining to eavesdrop on Marc’s jargon-laden elevator pitch. Gates seemed to be getting more and more agitated, and was poking at his beef Wellington. As Marc explained his technology in more detail, Gates began rocking nervily back and forth in his chair.<p>“You’ll have these intelligent agents, as I call them,” said Marc quietly, “scouting and negotiating on your behalf, pulling in data from all over the Net. Eventually you won’t really need a PC, because all your work will be in a sort of cloud.”<p>Suddenly there was an explosion from across the table. “MARC, THAT’S FUCKING BULLSHIT AND YOU KNOW IT!” It was Gates.<p>His tie was too tight and the veins were bulging on his neck. In the wake of this high-decibel outburst, a deadly silence descended on the room. Startled faces at both tables turned our way. Even the waiters froze, silver ladles in their hands. Amid the hush that had fallen, Marc Porat visibly shriveled in his seat, looking like he wished a hole would swallow him up.”<p>The whole book is worth a read.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Thomas_Dolby" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Thomas_Dolby</a>
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nemild将近 7 年前
FYI, the cofounder of this website&#x2F;product (Cake) is also the author of the post. So this has some similarities to content marketing.
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IntelMiner将近 7 年前
Throwing it out there for those who aren&#x27;t aware of it<p>Clint of &quot;LazyGameReviews&quot; did a fascinating retrospective on General Magic a while back<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=Opcuy-8VO64" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=Opcuy-8VO64</a>
martin1b将近 7 年前
I really enjoy hearing what really happened behind closed doors of what is, to me, one of the most interesting times in computer history.<p>What a gift to be a part of it! Keep these coming Chris!
patrickg_zill将近 7 年前
I had one of the Sony backlit devices. It was a poor purchase decision, perhaps, but it was quite advanced.<p>AT&amp;T pulling support for it was my first experience with &quot;the cloud giveth and the cloud taketh away&quot;.<p>Paired with a more modern cpu and battery though with some updates, it could be quite useful even today, though...
hammock将近 7 年前
Interesting story, but comes off as self-obsessed and a little bit not credible as a result of comments like these:<p>&quot;...to what they called the cloud,&quot;<p>&quot;Placing a thumbs-up icon on a message to show that you liked it felt like something which could catch on&quot;<p>&quot;My favorite was maps from StreetLight that gave you turn-by-turn directions. Oh my God. That felt like an app everyone would love&quot;
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sp332将近 7 年前
Here&#x27;s an earlier thread about the movie <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=16897690" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=16897690</a> and an article apparently inspired by the release of the movie <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=16897690" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=16897690</a>
guiomie将近 7 年前
How can I see the documentary referenced at the end? The trailer is 2 years old, there are some reviews but not rental options ...
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notadoc将近 7 年前
Why is this particular presentation format better than a good old fashioned blog post?
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sytelus将近 7 年前
I&#x27;m curious about what was the hiring process at companies like General Magic and Paypal. What do they do (from interview questions perspective) that they end up with so many game changing folks?
cmacaskill将近 7 年前
A film was made about General Magic that was a pretty big hit at this year&#x27;s Tribeca Film Festival. There was a showing in a big theater in San Jose last week but it sold out. They have another showing at the Computer History Museum in Mountain View this Friday. Let&#x27;s hope it gets on Netflix.
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fzzzy将近 7 年前
Hmm, Steve Jobs also killed the Newton, which did many of the same things, and was released in 1993.
pjmlp将近 7 年前
Programed in Telescript.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Telescript_(programming_language)" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Telescript_(programming_langua...</a>
minikites将近 7 年前
The YouTube channel LGR has a great video on General Magic: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=Opcuy-8VO64" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=Opcuy-8VO64</a>
nickpsecurity将近 7 年前
Bill Fallon in the article responded in the comments with this:<p>&quot;Chris: There were probably some hard feelings a couple of decades ago but none lingering, not even those that may have been there wouldn&#x27;t have been squarely aimed at you.<p>Since you were in charge of dealing with 3&#x27;d party developers I think I always realized you had a hand in the onboarding of AOL, though until I read your post I always assumed the idea originated with Sony. In the end it didn&#x27;t really matter - the presence of AOL on SONY MagicLink&#x27;s did not generate device sales any more than our name did, and ultimately AT&amp;T PersonaLink was utterly dependent on device sales and unlike AOL, spent a fair amount of money to actually attempt to actually generate device sales. As you&#x27;ll see in point 2 below we saw an urgent need to diversify into a PC application about a year before the MagicLink launched, but as we both know that idea died a slow, agonizing death.<p>There are two somewhat related points that I don&#x27;t recall if we discussed or not which could have possibly (though not probably) reversed the fortunes of at least our part of the General Magic universe.<p>1. AT&amp;T spent all that money developing what we would today call a cloud based platform for &quot;communicating applications using General Magic&#x27;s Telescript technology.&quot; Our deal with General Magic obligated us to be the first to develop any application that had anything to do with Telescript, and that was the GM&#x2F;PersonaLink messaging application. If all General Magic wanted was a then current state of the art e-mail network, we could have made that available a week after our initial meeting with Marc Porat, Rich Miller and Bill Atkinson when they first visited us at a Bell Labs facility in NJ. No, it had to have Telescript.<p>To my recollection no 3&#x27;d party apps were ever developed using Telescript, including AOL&#x27;s. In truth there wasn&#x27;t much Telescript in the PersonaLink Mail application - I think it was primarily tied to authenticating users and providing a rather clever user directory, but it was a start, and again, a core contractual item we were obligated to meet.<p>While AT&amp;T certainly had an issue with AOL, we never quite understood why General Magic didn&#x27;t have an isssue with it (at least when we thought it was all Sony&#x27;s doing), as it substantially compromised the value of it&#x27;s whole Telescript proposition, which, despite various public pronouncements to the contrary, was obviously a distant second in importance internally to MagicCap. Various Magicians have indicated their disdain for John Sculley and Apple for upstaging General Magic&#x27;s device - can you see the similarity AT&amp;T saw for the introduction of an AOL messaging app on MagicCap devices to Apple&#x27;s action? We had a similar reaction to Motorola&#x27;s tie up with an outfit named RadioMail. Perhaps you were involved with that one also.<p>2. We campaigned long and hard for a MagicCap for PC&#x27;s sofware app as it became apparent that Sony&#x27;s $800+ device wasn&#x27;t likely to fly off of store shelves and Motorola&#x27;s $1500+ device might not ever make it to market, along with the phantom devices of other alliance members Panasonic and Philips. Rich a company as we were, AT&amp;T could not afford to dole out Sony MagicLink&#x27;s for free or very little to tens of thousands of customers, but we easily could have and would have distributed software to millions of customers for free, which we believe would have put tens of thousands of users on the PersonaLink network, generating revenue for both AT&amp;T and General Magic, and perhaps providing a &quot;tandem&quot; device-computer solution that would have benefited device partners - which was ultimately the architecture that won that generation of handheld devices.<p>Our requests went nowhere for quite awhile, and were ultimately undertaken by a too little, too late internal effort at General Magic that never produced a viable product.&quot;
j45将近 7 年前
Interesting to learn what inspired the Apple Newton - it ironically focused a lot more on handwriting recognition, which Palm would do a much better job with Grafitti in terms of day to day use.
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StanAngeloff将近 7 年前
&#x2F;rant Interesting story, however the format is horrible. It&#x27;s my first time coming across posts like this and it was a struggle to read till the end (much like Twitter threads are a mess). The whole story will make for a great blog post.
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