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Apple becomes the first $1T company

339 点作者 fmihaila将近 7 年前

47 条评论

pliny将近 7 年前
&gt;“Apple’s $1 trillion cap is equal to about 5 percent of the total gross domestic product of the United States in 2018,” said David Kass, professor of finance at the University of Maryland. “That puts this company in perspective.”<p>The comparison would be Apple net income (~$50B) vs. GDP, not market cap (which has units of USD) vs. GDP (which has units of USD per year).
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coldcode将近 7 年前
When I worked at Apple in the mid-90&#x27;s (BS before Steve) they lost $1B while I was there. I left and moved away because I didn&#x27;t want to be there when it was sold or went out of business. Exactly one year later Steve came back. Oh well. Being there at the time not one person would have ever thought Apple could be viable much less worth $1T.
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GlenTheMachine将近 7 年前
I went to grad school with a guy who, the day Apple stock hit $14 a share, decided to spend $500 of his grad student stipend to buy some. He figured Apple&#x27;s cash on hand was worth more than $14 a share.<p>I thought he was nuts. I was an idiot.
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ancorevard将近 7 年前
The most impressive part of Apple getting to a $1T valuation is that they did it with a P&#x2F;E ratio of about 20.<p>I would like to see Amazon attempt that.
KaoruAoiShiho将近 7 年前
Here&#x27;s what a trillion dollars looks like: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pagetutor.com&#x2F;trillion&#x2F;index.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pagetutor.com&#x2F;trillion&#x2F;index.html</a>
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mikekij将近 7 年前
&quot;A $600 phone?! Who&#x27;s going to buy a $600 phone?!&quot; -Steve Balmer
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donohoe将近 7 年前
PetroChina was the first for a brief period back in 2007. Apple is the first trillion-dollar company in the United States, though.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;business&#x2F;2007&#x2F;nov&#x2F;06&#x2F;china" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;business&#x2F;2007&#x2F;nov&#x2F;06&#x2F;china</a>
dev_dull将近 7 年前
I think about such a large number this is and I really am not surprised. Apple has created a product that I use all throughout the day. I won’t leave home without it and I’ll drive back if I forget it. It’s so addictive that I have to take active steps against using it too often around my wife or kids.
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_pferreir_将近 7 年前
Is this supposed to be good news? I see lots of excitement in this thread, but isn&#x27;t having a single company worth so much money a sign that we are, as a society, failing to create an economy that is truly competitive and fair? We&#x27;ve already got banks that are too big to fail, soon we might have private companies that are humongous to the point of having the same status.
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snowwrestler将近 7 年前
Reminds me of the email Steve Jobs sent after Apple&#x27;s market cap passed Dell:<p>&gt; Team, it turned out that Michael Dell wasn&#x27;t perfect at predicting the future. Based on today&#x27;s stock market close, Apple is worth more than Dell. Stocks go up and down, and things may be different tomorrow, but I thought it was worth a moment of reflection today. Steve.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2006&#x2F;01&#x2F;16&#x2F;technology&#x2F;michael-dell-should-eat-his-words-apple-chief-suggests.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2006&#x2F;01&#x2F;16&#x2F;technology&#x2F;michael-dell-s...</a><p>That market cap was $72.13 billion in 2006, by the way. What an amazing run Apple has made.
Isamu将近 7 年前
I dislike market cap as a measure of a company, as clearly a company can be wildly overvalued or undervalued. It is a not as if the &quot;wisdom of crowds&quot; has calculated the true value of a company.<p>During some of the pre-crash days early in the century, publications would trot out companies ranked by market cap, as if that really meant something. All I remember is various of these companies going under in the crash, despite their pre-crash valuation.<p>Revenue is a big deal. And profit too, although Amazon has shown you can keep that close to zero by reinvesting in growth, and that can work too.
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almost_usual将近 7 年前
&quot;For comparison, the same $10,000 invested in an Standard &amp; Poor’s 500-stock index fund would now be worth $2 million.&quot;<p>That doesn&#x27;t seem too bad considering the risk involved investing in a single stock.
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throwaway5752将近 7 年前
This has some decent charts and historical perspective (inflation adjusted): <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fool.com&#x2F;investing&#x2F;general&#x2F;2012&#x2F;08&#x2F;22&#x2F;a-history-of-ridiculously-big-companies.aspx" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fool.com&#x2F;investing&#x2F;general&#x2F;2012&#x2F;08&#x2F;22&#x2F;a-history-...</a>
donohoe将近 7 年前
PetroChina was the first for a brief period back in 2007.<p>Apple is the first trillion-dollar company in the United States, though.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;business&#x2F;2007&#x2F;nov&#x2F;06&#x2F;china" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;business&#x2F;2007&#x2F;nov&#x2F;06&#x2F;china</a>
nojvek将近 7 年前
I have to say this is an impressive achievement for Apple. Good on them. Although I am sad that an insane amount of wealth is being accrued by the few. The top 6 US companies (all of them tech) are worth more than 5 trillion. That&#x27;s almost 30% of US GDP.<p>In the last few years there&#x27;s been an unprecedented rise in wealth yet as both a nation, and a part of a global civilization, we are moving back in some aspects. Even locally, housing is a shit show in the valley and trillion dollar valuations makes it worse for the service class.<p>Extreme poverty in US is on the rise, tons of people are dying of preventable health conditions. Healthcare and education are getting more expensive. Global warming and pollution aren&#x27;t really turning back.<p>I guess the only mega billionaire I respect is Bill Gates because he&#x27;s truly putting his money where it matters. Funding all sorts of moon shots like clean nuclear energy, wiping malaria e.t.c<p>I&#x27;m not saying its Apple&#x27;s job to fix it. It really isn&#x27;t anyone&#x27;s job to fix the big problems. BUT with the insane amount of cash the big tech cos have, that&#x27;s hellova resources that could be invested towards bringing the entire human civilization forward to a peaceful, clean, educated and a healthy planet where everyone has the basics and we&#x27;re not dying because of very preventable issues.
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haaen将近 7 年前
Paul Graham in 2015:<p>It would have been a good deal for Apple&#x27;s board to give Steve 95% of the company.<p>Market cap when he came back: 1.73b.<p>5% now: 33b.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;paulg&#x2F;status&#x2F;674760647767285761" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;paulg&#x2F;status&#x2F;674760647767285761</a><p>Today, 5% of the company is 50 bilion. Jobs became de facto chief after then-CEO Gil Amelio was ousted in July 1997 (wiki). So that would make an annualized AAPL gain of 17.3 percent, excluding dividends. Even more impressive.
mkaziz将近 7 年前
I wish I&#x27;d bought Apple stock in December instead of Bitcoin.
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KaoruAoiShiho将近 7 年前
Is Samsung Electronics ridiculously undervalued or what? It generates more profit than Apple <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;wccftech.com&#x2F;samsung-posted-higher-profit-than-apple-q2-2018&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;wccftech.com&#x2F;samsung-posted-higher-profit-than-apple...</a> yet is valued at only $290 billion instead of $1000 billion. What the heck.
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tensecondflash将近 7 年前
I like to think that between AAPL dividends and Apple hardware resale value (not even counting the value of the stock I’m holding on to) my spending on iPhones and MacBooks and Apple Watches has all been free.<p>Also, I sometimes I buy put options before a big product reveal in advance of the frequent stock price drop when all the analysts say “Is that what all the hype was about? That’ll never sell!”. Of course the stock prices pops back up again after Apple can’t keep up with demand.
leptoniscool将近 7 年前
Market cap is number of shares times share price. Is this equivalent to total amount of money that went into AAPL? Did investors put in 1 trillion dollars?
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rayiner将近 7 年前
Good for it. Becoming a trillion dollar company selling quality products people love. Not data mining everything about your life and using it for advertising (Google), ruthlessly destroying competition (Microsoft), or destroying the environment (Exxon). How old fashioned.
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deathanatos将近 7 年前
Alphabet has two stock symbols (GOOG &amp; GOOGL); they have a combined market cap of ~$1.6T. Does this not count?
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sidcool将近 7 年前
It is an achievement in almost all facets of success. It is a perfect story of the great American dream. Most products throughout their history have been world class. Congratulations Apple and good luck for the future.
ksec将近 7 年前
Just to give some context, the first publicly traded company to hit $1T USD market cap was Petrol China, but that was only in HK, in mainland china, its stock were never valued more than $500B. And it has only 5% of stock in HK open market.<p>Compare to AAPL today.<p>Apple still has a ridiculously low P&#x2F;E of ~17. Which is how everyone values a hardware company. And has stayed within this P&#x2F;E range since the death of Steve Jobs. Apple hasn&#x27;t been selling more iPhone than the last super cycle aka iPhone 6, which is when the plus version was first introduced. But Apple&#x27;s iPhone ASP has been up $100+, and Apple has been buying back LOTS of share, which is one of the main reason pushing its stock price upwards.<p>A lot of analyst likes to focus on the flat unit sales, and the higher ASP. In reality it is the user base growth that is much more important. Tim Cook mentioned a double digit percentage growth in iPhone. That puts Apple with close to 800M active iPhone users. Roughly 70M+ of iPhone users coming are either new to smartphone or switching from Android. So while Apple&#x27;s iPhone sales has been flat for a few years, its iPhone user base has matched from 600M to 800M. Given the moat, or the stickiness of Apple ecosystem, users are likely going to buy another iPhone, staying within the ecosystem than going to Android.<p>The Mac are also adding lots of new users, 60% of Mac buyer are new to Apple. This continuous trend means Apple is adding 10M new Mac users YoY. The last reported figure there were roughly 150M active Mac users. If we look at the sales figures and Active Mac users over time, it is clear the average Mac lifecycle is now on 4 - 5 years before upgrade.<p>The iPad has roughly 300M, may be now closer to 400M iPad users. Again while the sales hasn&#x27;t grown, its user base is growing.<p>Both Horace Dediu and Benedict Evans are expecting 1.5 billion Active devices by either late 2018 or mid 2019. As impossible it may seems, Apple is STILL growing its user base.<p>And there are few more things to fuel future growth. The rumoured of slightly cheaper iPhone and Mac. We should have a sub $700 6.1&quot; LCD iPhone coming this September. Along with a better sub $1000 entry level MacBook. And I believe the best iPad has yet to come, still with lots of potentials.<p>Yes, I hate the TouchBar, Yes I absolutely hate the new bloody keyboard they put on MacBook. And I don&#x27;t like FaceID much, still prefer under screen finger print. But all these aside, Apple is still doing extremely well, and its bigger picture is good with no immediate risk at its current valuation. Cant say the same for Microsoft, Google, or Amazon. And they have just finish moving into its new Spaceship. There are lots of mental preparation and inefficiency involved when moving to a whole campus. I hope they are now settle and up their productivity.<p>To sum it up, with a P&#x2F;E less then 20, and the most Net Cash ( ~$130B ) any company has in the world, they are truly worth their $1T Market Cap.<p>Congrats AAPL.<p>P.S - Steve probably would have sent another note to all employees about Dell. :P
cdransf将近 7 年前
My grandparents bought and still own Apple stock from their IPO. Seems like good news for them.
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sungju1203将近 7 年前
Samsung is making much more Operating Income than AAPL. Why their market cap is so low?
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calvinbhai将近 7 年前
Not yet<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;ampressman&#x2F;status&#x2F;1025033219803103232" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;ampressman&#x2F;status&#x2F;1025033219803103232</a><p>$AAPL needs to be $207.0425 to be $1T company
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bcks将近 7 年前
Who&#x27;s &quot;beleaguered&quot; now?
Bromskloss将近 7 年前
Psst! That&#x27;s an arbitrary number.
benologist将近 7 年前
Avoided the most taxes in history too!
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craftyguy将近 7 年前
&gt; The company hit a $1tn market capitalisation 42 years after it was founded and 117 years after US Steel became the first company to be valued at $1bn in 1901.<p>Is that adjusted for inflation?
wil_I_am_27将近 7 年前
Soon Amazon will be in this list.
api将近 7 年前
... on design and user experience.<p>Take note.
Steve886将近 7 年前
Alright. Who&#x27;s next?
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IloveHN84将近 7 年前
Without paying taxes, or a very small percentage, it&#x27;s a fake achievement.
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beagledude将近 7 年前
remember the guy who gave up his Apple founding stock?
tehabe将近 7 年前
An honest question, why do people really care about the market capitalisation of a company?
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sna1l将近 7 年前
First public trillion dollar company, right?<p>Source: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.visualcapitalist.com&#x2F;most-valuable-companies-all-time&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.visualcapitalist.com&#x2F;most-valuable-companies-all-...</a>
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11thEarlOfMar将近 7 年前
Not so fast, they bought back $20 Billion in stock last quarter.
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HaHa31将近 7 年前
No. It is the first PUBLICALY TRADED company on the US STOCK MARKET to be valued at $1T. There have been many companies that have broken that point in inflation-adjusted and NON-inflation-adjusted valuations. Three big ones are the Dutch East India company, the most valuable company in history, Standard Oil, the most valuable US company ever, and Saudi Aramco, the current, most valuable company. I&#x27;ve seen to many articles claiming this today, so I rage wrote this on mobile.<p>See article for numbers: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.visualcapitalist.com&#x2F;most-valuable-companies-all-time&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.visualcapitalist.com&#x2F;most-valuable-companies-all-...</a>
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maxshmax将近 7 年前
It&#x27;s worth noting that this is the first U.S. company to hit $1 trillion, not in the world. Also, it&#x27;s still intraday, so Apple has not technically reached that point yet.
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paulpauper将近 7 年前
Everyone talks about Apple as the best possible investment, but an investment in XEM or XRP (Nem or Ripple or Stellar Lumens) in early 2017 surpassed all of Apple in its 30 year history.<p>My money is on Google, Facebook or Amazon eventually surpassing Apple though
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paulpauper将近 7 年前
I don&#x27;t own an Iphone and neither does anyone I know, but good for them.
rainbowmverse将近 7 年前
Apple is worth $1 trillion in the same way an asteroid hurtling toward Earth contains $1 trillion in precious metals.<p>Tim Cook has yet to prove he can do more than maximize profits while someone somewhere is working on the thing that&#x27;ll undermine the source of Apple&#x27;s value while they&#x27;re not looking.<p>edit: generalized away from a specific example because it distracted from the point.
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amaccuish将近 7 年前
Hmm. I&#x27;m waiting to see what the iPhones are like. I sense trouble brewing.
metalliqaz将近 7 年前
If time travel existed, I&#x27;d go back and buy me some 1980&#x27;s Apple stock. I think we just proved time travel can&#x27;t happen.
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pseudonym2将近 7 年前
This will be very controversial, especially in HN, but market cap doesn&#x27;t mean shit.<p>Apple has roughly $50B in revenue and $120B in equity. Most of it&#x27;s products could be replaced in less than 5 years by a competitor. Market cap is a measure of public trust among other things but <i>not</i> actual worth or value to society.
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