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Stripe for female founders has invited you to join Stripe Atlas

73 点作者 zhangela将近 7 年前

20 条评论

DoreenMichele将近 7 年前
Since the offer is actually open to &quot;anyone&quot;, I will suggest the title of the piece is more intended to say something like &quot;Yes, even you women! The word <i>anyone</i> is not code for <i>any white male with SV connections</i>. Honest!&quot;<p>A lot of underrepresented people know that generic invitations don&#x27;t really mean they are also invited. It&#x27;s really only open to the existing in-crowd. As a woman who gets a lot of reactions that suggest to me that women are not supposed to so much as initiate conversations with men, I can kind of understand the logic here.<p>Having been burned by an extremely toxic classist group where, no, the rules absolutely are not the same for &quot;the wrong kind of people&quot; -- by which we mean poor people (in this case, though they also do really shitty things to anyone who can&#x27;t somehow establish in-group standing) -- I can understand why a lot of members of underprivileged groups err on the side of &quot;They don&#x27;t really mean <i>me</i> when they say <i>anyone</i>&#x2F;<i>everyone.</i>&quot;<p>My mind doesn&#x27;t work that way. I generally take folks at their word, even when I know they may not really mean it -- and recently got banned from a forum for doing so because they were full of shit and didn&#x27;t mean any of the high minded BS that came out of their lying mouths. I&#x27;m willing to live with that.<p>But I&#x27;m also very well aware that if you get that result often enough, shunning can mean you de facto have no income at all, there is no place for you to go, etc. It can be essentially a death sentence, and I don&#x27;t mean metaphorically. I mean literally.<p>I don&#x27;t know what the fix is. I&#x27;m not really all that crazy about the framing of this promo. But my suspicion is that is the real impetus here -- to make sure women don&#x27;t feel that the subtext is &quot;Not really <i>you</i>, though we say <i>anyone</i>.&quot;<p>And, honestly, I don&#x27;t have a better answer, so I&#x27;m not going to dog them for it.
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chejazi将近 7 年前
Looks like this post is angering some people so I will mention it looks like the promo is regardless of gender? Aside from the header &quot;Stripe for female founders has invited you to join Stripe Atlas.&quot; there is no suggestion that gender is a limiting factor for the discount.
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dc_gregory将近 7 年前
If you read the page carefully, they will waive the fee for anyone that uses the link. Assumption is they will be generally pushing this out via marketing channels that target women. Regardless, its a very nice thing for them to do!
headsoup将近 7 年前
I get the intent here and applaud encouraging female participation and equality, but this is pretty much just discrimination based on sex.
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nmstoker将近 7 年前
Interested to know how this can be legal (much as I support greater balance)
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tfolbrecht将近 7 年前
Amazed nobody read the offer before commenting. I guess women are a subset of anyone lol
jblandino将近 7 年前
To end these discussions I will mention the following.<p>I contacted the Stripe Atlas team about this offer and as they say, if they read the website, it refers to the offer is only for women (but it is not the case), the offer is open to any person &#x2F; gender that wants take advantage of it, they only put &quot;For women&quot; to continue promoting in which more founders are united to the emprendimiento of this decade.<p>For example, I just got the offer as a man, they did not charge me the $ 500 fee, so I understand that everything is correct.<p>Do not take everything as literal, one thing is what the web says and another is what they really offer, anyone can be wrong.
laurex将近 7 年前
It strikes me that it&#x27;s rare that you hear an outcry about things being &quot;marketed specifically to women&quot; unless those things are ones that have traditionally been the domain of men. If an offer about makeup or diapers or Zumba class was clearly targeted at women, or even jobs that orient around similar themes, my guess is that it wouldn&#x27;t merit much of an outcry on HN.
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julionav将近 7 年前
This is great. I was just talking yesterday with my fiance about us needing to use stripe atlas yo open a company for our new side business!
haaen将近 7 年前
I do not understand why Stripe choose a headline that does partially cover the content of the article. In a sexist, but politically correct way. I also don&#x27;t understand why comments about this being sexist get flagged. Finally, I wonder why the moderators changed the original HN headline to the same headline that Stripe uses. Isn&#x27;t it HN policy that headlines that seems clickbaity or wrong get changed by the moderators, so that they become more factual and understated?<p>Anyway, great move from Stripe. Seems that they want remove barriers for starting and running a company, which is good for the creation of wealth and jobs. Be it Stripe Atlas, the card business, Indiehackers or the publishing company. Al those newly founded companies are also target customers for Stripe. Which is completely ok and speaks of good common business sense!
pmx将近 7 年前
How is this not sexism? Are women somehow less capable than men and need services handed to them in order to be successful? I don&#x27;t think that&#x27;s the case and I&#x27;m surprised Stripe appears to!
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no1youknowz将近 7 年前
You know what would have been a much better move?<p>Stripe Atlas waives the one-time $500 company formation fee for everyone.<p>Stripe could then generate back the $500 in credit card processing fees by bolstering those startups, which wouldn&#x27;t have otherwise existed.<p>Edit: I see where the confusion is.<p>The title is: &quot;Stripe for female founders has invited you to join Stripe Atlas.&quot;<p>That&#x27;s the reason for the reaction.<p>However, at the bottom.<p>&quot;Stripe Atlas will waive the one-time $500 company formation fee for anyone that uses the link below by October 15th.&quot;<p>I applaud this. The copy should have been read a bit more carefully!<p>Although this article has been flagged. I would welcome clarification by Stripe!
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alanfranzoni将近 7 年前
Incorrect title.
nik736将近 7 年前
So that’s how equality looks like?
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ddorian43将近 7 年前
Is there any field AT ALL where males are underprivileged and they are somehow helped compared to females ?
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csomar将近 7 年前
Are female less represented than, say, gay people? Are they less represented than, say, trans-black-woman or a non-binary-gender person.<p>Shouldn&#x27;t we rise above and instead of helping minorities, just help&#x2F;accept &quot;everyone&quot; already. A side benefit is to remind them that there is no such thing as &quot;minority&quot; and they are regular persons. And that no particular person no matter what his gender&#x2F;color&#x2F;religion is still a person and welcome.<p>And is it actually legal to give woman an unfair advantage? Or advertise capitalizing on it (I&#x27;m aware the offer is open to anyone).
grosjona将近 7 年前
This is sexist. They should also allow Introverted Males WithOut Rich Parents to form a company for free. It is very difficult for an IMWORPs to start a company and raise funding these days. How many IMWORP CEOs are there these days? Probably close to 0. The worst part is that people make no distinction between IMWORP and EMWRPs even though we&#x27;re the opposite.
danieltillett将近 7 年前
Does this apply to those that self-identify as female if there is a dollar in it?
psycombi将近 7 年前
Inequality against man! Stripe wants to earn brownie points via hacker news. Not Good.
nomercy400将近 7 年前
&quot;Form your new company as either an LLC or C Corporation in Delaware.&quot; - Isn&#x27;t Delaware the new patent troll capital. Why would I want to start a company there?<p>&quot;Stripe Atlas will waive the one-time $500 company formation fee for anyone that uses the link below by October 15th.&quot; - Not just females? Otherwise it could be considered discrimination.
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