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Ask HN: Considering quitting my day job to work on my startups

19 点作者 podman超过 14 年前
I launched two start ups about three months ago while still working a full time job. I honestly hoped that things would progress slowly with them and I wouldn't be overwhelmed or burn out. That turned out to not be the case. After launching, I no longer control the pace of things that go on and I find myself constantly focusing on them instead of my day job. My productivity over the past couple of weeks has dropped to almost nothing because I'm coding all day and all night. I'm not really even interested in the projects I'm working on at my day job anymore either. There are really two things that are holding me back right now:<p>1) The combined net incomes from both ventures is not enough to fully support my financially right now (not to mention I have partners for both companies so it's not like I can take all of the profit for myself anyway). I've got enough savings to support myself for about a year with zero income, so I've got a bit of a runway to see if things will work out and find a job if I need to, but it's still a large gamble.<p>2) My employer is already trying to hire another developer and has been trying to do so for a few months. Considering how hard of a time they're having finding one developer, I'm concerned that my leaving would put them in a very bad situation. I'm really good friends with everyone at the company and I'm worried that there might be some resentment towards me if I do leave. Then again, I'm not giving them 100% and that isn't fair to them anyway. If I don't quit it's possible that I might be fired down the road anyway.<p>Have any of you gone through this before? Anyone have any advice? Is there anything I'm probably not thinking about that might blindside me down the road?<p>Thanks!

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may超过 14 年前
As soon as I saw the word "startups" -- plural -- I thought "he's doomed". However, while the popular wisdom is to focus soley on one thing, one startup, I often find that leads to imbalance. Perhaps having two ventures is a good thing.<p>What I'm doing right now is a 5-6 hours/day job for the bills and working on my projects the rest of the day. Balances out pretty well -- I get physically tired from work and get some social interaction/out of the house/out of my own head. And the rest of my time -- and all of my headspace -- is free to write and code.<p>But, to get back to you, it sounds to me like you really would rather be working on your projects.<p>Here's what I'd suggest -- you don't want to leave your boss in the lurch, and you still need some money -- so why not just talk to your boss about working reduced hours, say half-time, so you can help them and have more time for your startups?
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arn超过 14 年前
Here's my advice regarding sorting out #1 vs #2. The question in my mind is how much each factor is. When I quit my day job, the social pressures/burning bridges aspect of it was a part of my reluctance. But, of course, more financial instability was another.<p>In the end, I asked myself "if I could snap my fingers, and tomorrow be out of my day job, without having to go through the social awkwardness of quitting, etc.... Would I do it?" My answer was an instant "yes". That showed me that any threat of the financial instability was not a real concern, but just an excuse for me not wanting to burn bridges.<p>After that, I was entirely confident in my decision to quit.
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Eugene3v超过 14 年前
I chose to quit my full time job for the benefit of my own startup, the difference was I hated the company that I was working for and I hated the job... In your case I would suggest to look into a part time deal. It seems like you have a good rapport with your employer and u have the integrity and the dignity to realize what is fair and such... See, if u can reduce your involvement with your employer to say 30%.. Just a thought. Good Luck!
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answerly超过 14 年前
&#62;but it's still a large gamble.<p>I know it seems like a big gamble room your current vantage point, but it really isn't. You are an entrepreneurial developer in a tech economy where that skill set is at a premium (at least in startup hubs like the bay area). It seems like the worst case scenario is that you end up getting a job at another startup if your projects don't work out.<p>Good luck!
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wccrawford超过 14 年前
Either get your head back in the game, or quit. You aren't doing your employer -any- favors by taking his money when your productivity has "dropped to almost nothing".
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edge17超过 14 年前
A good friend of mine told me that, the minute I start affecting my personal brand and reputation negatively at a job, I need to start thinking about what to do next. The worst thing is to leave on a low note than a high note.<p>If you think leaving the job is inevitable, then you should start preparing for that - i.e. work hard, because the last memories in their minds will be the ones that stick the most.<p>I've been through this, and I have an open invitation to return to an old job because of it. For now I've left it all and I'm building my own company. Just make sure you understand your costs, and make sure you have health insurance. Don't buy into all the crap about - i'm young, i'll just buy the cheapest insurance on the market. The insurance is for the things you don't expect. Not being able to eat or pay rent are small problems, but neither can bankrupt you. Medical costs can. My buddy broke his leg on a mountain; fortunately he has insurance, but if he didn't the costs would have bankrupted him. He's a young and healthy guy otherwise<p>Also, people start their own companies with far less than 1 year of savings. You'll find, even if you have 5 years of runway, the prospect of jumping the safety of your paycheck is going to be terrifying. Once you do it though, you'll stop thinking about it very quickly. Look at it differently - 1 year of runway may force you to work harder than ever; you know, necessity is the mother of all invention.
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trevelyan超过 14 年前
#2 suggests you may be underpaid. I'd go to your boss privately and tell him you've thinking about leaving to do a startup because you don't feel challenged at work, and this is hurting your productivity and interest in the job. All of this is true, you're just afraid to say it because of an innate desire for conflict avoidance.<p>Be honest with the people around you about what you want (part of this means thinking it through yourself...). In a worst case scenario you lose your job. But if you're really ambivalent about leaving, giving notice like this should alleviate any guilt over quitting and being honest <i>should</i> keep you on better terms with people than the alternative. And you never know. Perhaps your boss will give you a raise or otherwise help solve your motivation problems.
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JimboOmega超过 14 年前
I was going to give some other advice, but, given that you have a year of runway, AND partners, AND revenue... what are you waiting for? Seriously? Do you have children and/or others who really depend on your income?<p>My other thoughts:<p>It strikes me as odd that there are two threads on this theme at once...<p>I'd recommend going part time (if you really don't want to quit), as another poster did, if they'll let you (my company did). My company also seemed to be in the same position as yours at #2, but when I left, it seemed pretty amiable - and when I came back a year later, they had no room for me.<p>It's quite possible that the hiring department is incompetent. Anyway, that is not your concern. Especially if you're not productive there; taking their money for nothing isn't that big of a favor to them.
ulysses超过 14 年前
1.) Are either of the startups making any money now? Are there good prospects for either of them to start making money soon? Do you have any other financial obligations?<p>If there are good financial prospects for one or both startups, and you can live for a year on your savings, and you have no other financial obligations, I don't see why you wouldn't take the plunge. Even if the startups don't work out, you will probably have substantially increased your skillset in a year.<p>2.) On the one hand, you shouldn't screw your current employer. On the other hand, if they can't find a developer after several months of trying, that's their problem, not yours.<p>Try to make the transition as smooth as possible for them, but don't stay just because they can't hire.
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frederikfleck超过 14 年前
If your start up is your dream - go for it!<p>You are much better of then most entrepreneurs: the projects are up and running and are making some money. A lot of people quit their jobs and then get started. And a year of runway is even better!<p>But I agree to the other comments that you should focus on one of the projects which can really become big.<p>Re 2: recruit your replacement yourself. Maybe you fins somebody even here in HN?
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petervandijck超过 14 年前
1) If you use up all those savings and things don't work out and you have to go back to getting a regular job, would you feel good or bad about having done the whole thing? If good, go for it.
podman超过 14 年前
I should also mention that I have a partner in each of my start ups. So, if I drop one or both of the start ups, I'll be screwing them over as well.
martinkallstrom超过 14 年前
No doubt, get out of there. One year's runway is plenty and you are not doing your current employer any favor's by lingering.
uptown超过 14 年前
Okay ... I'll bite. What are your startups?
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podman超过 14 年前
So, just to follow up... I quit today.
charlesju超过 14 年前
Just do it.
noverloop超过 14 年前
I would ask to start working part-time and quit if they won't let you.
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kapauldo超过 14 年前
Are you single and do you have kids?