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Google is discontinuing Inbox

916 点作者 edwinvlieg超过 6 年前

138 条评论

klandergren超过 6 年前
Inbox changed my relationship with email and it is unbelievably frustrating to hear it is being shuttered. I was a better digital person because of the app: I never forgot to reply, I kept years of ideas and small notes in reminders, and I could quickly triage and clear all incoming mail.<p>These things in particular made Inbox stand out:<p>* UI - simple, uncluttered mobile and desktop experience with uncomplicated keyboard shortcuts. It even had the little things like a satisfying sun animation when your inbox was empty! Desktop Gmail has a surfeit of widgets and add-on icons that perplex, distract, and confuse.<p>* Bundles - especially for trips: all the relevant emails I needed, in one place—unbelievably useful while traveling. All tickets and information aggregated automatically (and if not, easily added manually).<p>* Reminders &#x2F; Compose access - fast interface for creating small notes and mailing frequently contacted people. No reminders equivalent in Gmail (Tasks are available on Desktop but not mobile) and the mobile compose on Gmail is a blank email.<p>* Pinning - sticky a reminder or email for easy access and reference later. I guess gmail&#x27;s equivalent is marking as important or moving to inbox?<p>In any event, if any of the Inbox team are reading this: big THANK YOU for creating a revolutionary product that was a joy to use. I already submitted feedback through the app wishing it would continue but if there is anything further I can do please share how!
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tdfx超过 6 年前
I don&#x27;t mean to throw out the same old &quot;you can&#x27;t get attached to Google products because they kill them at any time&quot; thing, but holy shit, this one feels like a real kick in the balls. Email is one of my most important workflows and I&#x27;ve spent a great deal of time over the past few years attaching myself to the zero inbox mindset through the bundles feature and having my reminders as first class citizens in the inbox. Going back to Gmail without these features is a serious regression in my life.
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Ajedi32超过 6 年前
This is really unfortunate. Inbox&#x27;s primary differentiator was never in any one individual feature like Snooze or Smart Reply. No, the real value of Inbox was that its design was built around a fundamentally different philosophy on what email is and how it should be managed.<p>Gmail takes a traditional approach to email management. Messages come in, you read them, maybe organize them with labels, then archive them, delete them, or just leave them in your inbox forever. It doesn&#x27;t really make any assumptions about your workflow, it just gives you a bunch of fairly standard email client features and leaves it up to you how you use them.<p>Inbox on the other hand is very opinionated. It was designed around the idea that your inbox is a to-do list, and everything from the UI to features like pinning, snooze, and reminders is built around that assumption. Emails come in and get sorted into categories, then you go through that list triage them, marking emails that require no action as done, pinning the ones you want to deal with soon, and snoozing the ones you want to come back to later. You can even attach reminders to emails so you don&#x27;t forget what task they represent. When you&#x27;re done you hit the sweep button and everything that isn&#x27;t pinned or snoozed gets wiped clean.<p>As a result of this workflow, emails you&#x27;ve already dealt with are hidden away in the &quot;done&quot; folder, leaving only emails in your inbox which represent reminders or tasks you have yet to complete. You can even add custom reminders to Inbox which aren&#x27;t tied to any specific email. Basically it turns your inbox into a to-do list.<p>I&#x27;m saddened to see Inbox go. Gmail doesn&#x27;t really capture this workflow with quite the same level of elegance Inbox does; it just wasn&#x27;t designed to work that way. I suspect that long after Inbox is gone I&#x27;ll still find myself using the workflow it taught me; treating my inbox like a to-do list even when the client I use is no longer built around that workflow.
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andybak超过 6 年前
&gt; Outside of some of the bundling features<p>Bundling (in the inbox) is THE reason for using Inbox. It&#x27;s the only unique feature. It&#x27;s the thing that changed how I use email.<p>If I use folders it&#x27;s the kiss of death for any email that a rule sends to that folder. I want a single list but with some items collapsed.<p>Email went from unthreaded to threaded (reducing the complexity massively.<p>Bundles takes that one step further.<p>In both cases the critical thing is one ordered list but with a massively reduced number of individual items.
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kaushalmodi超过 6 年前
These are really unfortunate news! :(<p>My stress level just went up after opening gmail.com after few years since I switched to Inbox.<p>Being used to just swiping emails that I didn&#x27;t need to attend, I didn&#x27;t realize they were still in &quot;unread&quot; status.<p>Now when I opened Gmail, I see:<p><pre><code> Social 190 Updates 4,856 Forums 3,329 Promotions 4,214 </code></pre> The worst part is that I cannot see which of those &quot;Unread&quot; emails are pinned in Inbox.<p>And.. we cannot Pin emails in Gmail the same way as in Inbox :( [I have already read the &quot;Pin emails&quot; section in <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;support.google.com&#x2F;inbox&#x2F;answer&#x2F;9117840" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;support.google.com&#x2F;inbox&#x2F;answer&#x2F;9117840</a>, but starring&#x2F;labeling&#x2F;searching doesn&#x27;t give the convenience that Inbox pinning did.]<p>I&#x27;ll also miss all the rich email rendering of emails like shipping tracking, flight tickets, appointments, etc.<p>Alas..<p>---<p><i>Update</i>: And of course Google would discontinue Inbox. Inbox did not have ads, but Gmail has freaking ads!
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jacquesm超过 6 年前
Dear user of product &#x27;X&#x27; that you&#x27;ve come to depend on for your daily workflow and that you are completely happy with. To serve you better we have decided to kill of &#x27;X&#x27; and force you into &#x27;Y&#x27; which does some of &#x27;X&#x27; but worse and will kill your workflow for the next couple of months, and will give you a lot of extra work to do besides. Of course &#x27;Y&#x27; does not look the same - nor does it act the same - as &#x27;X&#x27; but we are super excited to have an opportunity to force some change on you, the user, just because we value you so much and we really would never make a change like this as a way to cut costs. Best regards, your ever caring and loving supplier.
__sr__超过 6 年前
Wow! I haven’t used regular Gmail in years! It will be a pain to switch back. The whole bundling, scheduling, snoozing, pinning, reminders etc are really useful.<p>But then it’s Google. The key people probably got bored and moved on and perhaps no one else is willing to take it up. At least they didn’t make 10 different email products like they did with IM.<p>Any suggestions for alternative email clients for iOS&#x2F;Android (other than Gmail app) which works well with Gmail? The iOS client doesn’t work well with Gmail. I’m looking for something which has as many as possible features from Inbox and doesn’t mess up my inbox — i.e. no Mail Pilot.
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kenhwang超过 6 年前
Google&#x27;s ADHD with products strikes again. It&#x27;s really hard to get excited over new Google offerings because they just go away when Google gets bored of them, time and time again.
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nathancahill超过 6 年前
Everyone suspected it for a while. Their active Twitter account refused for months to say when the app would be updated for the iPhone X.<p>Personally, I suspect that they painted themselves into a bit of a corner with the tech stack they choose for Inbox. They used a unique C++ to JS compiler to run Inbox in the browser. This worked decently well in Chrome, but the experience in other browsers has been a lot choppier. It&#x27;s possible the same codebase was also compiled to iOS and this is what caused the very long delay in updating for the iPhone X.<p>I&#x27;m sad to see it go. The UX in the official Gmail app isn&#x27;t quite as good. The bundle workflow they developed for working through your inbox is something I haven&#x27;t seen elsewhere.
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DannyBee超过 6 年前
It&#x27;s really interesting to see the super-knee jerk reaction here when the article itself even says that most of the features made their way into gmail.<p>(I was a <i>heavy</i> inbox user, and i am happy with the stuff that made it&#x27;s way into gmail).<p>Outside of some of the bundling features, i&#x27;m curious what actual difference people are complaining about here.
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tosh超过 6 年前
I think by now it would be worth for Google to re-think their branding strategy. How about releasing new experimental products off-brand? Google by now has a reputation of discontinuing products (some very vocal) users love.<p>This makes it very difficult for new Google-branded products to gain traction. Especially if the onboarding is costly &amp; discontinuation would hurt a lot (e.g. Google Cloud, Dart, productivity apps, …).
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ohadron超过 6 年前
This is so bad for my productivity. I will be missing:<p>- Reminders (with the ability to snooze them)<p>- Inbox bundling for promo, social, trips etc.<p>- Pinning and archiving everything that is not pinned<p>- Android &#x27;Add reminder&#x27; widget<p>Any ideas on how to replace these are welcome
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ulfw超过 6 年前
Not trying to be facetious or anything, but honestly I wonder why at this point anybody would bother using any Google product besides the triumvirate of Search&#x2F;Maps&#x2F;Gmail.<p>What&#x27;s the point?
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fernandopj超过 6 年前
I&#x27;m a happy and heavy user of Inbox, this came as a shock to me. I guess I&#x27;ll wait and see by January how is Gmail, but I&#x27;m not looking forward.<p>&gt; By retiring Inbox, is Google losing a valuable ability to experiment with new email functionality in a way that’s tough to do with a billion-user mainstay?<p>I also agree with this. If Google decided to let Inbox go, same way as with Wave, then the next &quot;email UX experiment&quot; will be another codename. Why not use the existing Inbox product to do the next innovation? Its base is formed by users which already showed adoption to new ideas and UI.
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oelmekki超过 6 年前
I can see this being seen as a turning point in the future, if Google loses influence.<p>Until now, every time people were saying &quot;I won&#x27;t use a new google product, I don&#x27;t trust them to keep it running&quot;, they were quickly blamed by googlers who replied this team had nothing to do with that team, and that you could not blame google forever for having close greader on you. And it was reasonable to think greader was an accident and we could not hold grudge on everything from google because of it (not that google did not close other products, but they were not as popular and difficult to replace).<p>But now, it&#x27;s not an exception anymore, and it comes in a time when firefox is gathering new strength, when duckduckgo results are getting competitively good, when purism is working on a true linux phone... Google has been so strong this start of century not only because they had outstanding products, but also because they had a loyal and passionate hardcore users base. I can&#x27;t see them not losing that, in the future (time will tell, obviously).
jillesvangurp超过 6 年前
I think this choice may be partially inspired by the fact that lots of people never switched to Inbox and people like myself actually switched back at some point. For me pinning UX kind of sucked and I really missed the Gmail density of information.<p>What&#x27;s sad is that Inbox stopped evolving almost immediately after they released it. This seems to be a thing at Google. Release something, hype it, and then just walk away instead of maintaining and improving it. If there was anyone working on that at all in the last 3 years; sorry I failed to notice that there was anything happening at all. It looks to me that there was a skeleton maintenance team at best. So, it looks like there was some infighting and the Inbox team got starved of resources. Gmail on the other hand was improved a lot over the past few years.<p>In general it strikes me that essentially all attempts by Google to do a bait and switch of their products in the past few years have been impopular and somewhat underwhelming in their outcome. They&#x27;ve killed a lot of popular products in favor of things that then flopped. They&#x27;ve repeatedly walked away from products that maybe had issues but were entirely fixable only to replace them with something worse.<p>There&#x27;s something deeply wrong with how Google is being managed since Alphabet was created. They are lacking a clear direction&#x2F;strategy. Is it Fuchsia, Chrome OS or Android that is going to be the OS of choice? I&#x27;m not sure they know the answer themselves. I&#x27;m not sure their OEMs know either. My advice, kill two out of three and get it done within the next 12 months. IMHO, Android would at this point be by far the most disruptive thing to kill. There&#x27;s a big risk of forks surviving any attempt by Google to kill that and ending up being a headache for Google.<p>Similarly, which of their billion chat clients are we supposed to actually use at this point? Same advice, pick one, kill the rest ASAP. IMHO keeping and fixing hangouts is the best course of action at this point. It&#x27;s the only one that&#x27;s been around long enough to actually have a user base (despite it&#x27;s many flaws and terrible UX).
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explodingcamera超过 6 年前
I&#x27;m actually thinking of switching to a different email service because of this. Gmail is just way to cluttered for my taste, inbox&#x27;s model where you can just check off emails and they&#x27;re gone was such a time-saver and a fresh breath of air.<p>I hope I can find something as simplistic and at the same time feature rich somewhere else :(
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cannonedhamster超过 6 年前
Google&#x27;s penchant for killing products is why I moved away from them for even their stable products. I want a company to be okay with having a stable platform of boring work to build exciting things on top of and Google isn&#x27;t that company. Add to that my lack of trust in Google to not spy even when it says it won&#x27;t, and it was just a perfect series of events. I honestly think the phone jack removal might have been the defining moment when I decided to move to an iPhone 6S. They will pry that phone jack from my cold dead hands.
smsm42超过 6 年前
That&#x27;s the problem with Google latest-and-greatest offerings - they roll it out, make a hype, if you&#x27;re naive enough you start using it, integrate it in your workflow - and they they decide it&#x27;s not what they wanted and throw it out, and you have to re-do your workflow again.<p>I just switched to using desktop mail client and going to web UI only occasionally - at least desktop client is not likely to go away when Google gets bored with it.
kurtisc超过 6 年前
I don&#x27;t like Inbox. So, rather than being annoyed it&#x27;s going, I&#x27;m worried that Google will morph GMail into Inbox and force me to use its non-chronological features. I&#x27;ve already had it shoved down my throat with the web app - thankfully I could revert it.
Apreche超过 6 年前
WTF<p>I use inbox for everything. GMail is basically unusable for me at this point. This is a complete disaster.
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Zyst超过 6 年前
Been using Inbox for the last 4 years, sad to see it go. The bundle structure, and snoozing are both features I use religiously.<p>Thanks to the Inbox team for delivering a great product!
Myrmornis超过 6 年前
Very disappointing. I feel like this is retrograde -- my impression is that Gmail is a very advanced tool for people who care (by choice or professional obligation) about their email, whereas Inbox was a huge leap forwards for people who just want to avoid wasting time on email. And I kind of thought the latter was more forward-looking.
sdoering超过 6 年前
Well thanks Google. You just made the necessary transition into MS Outlook land so much more easy.<p>My company got bought and I need to switch into MS land. Sadly. But my biggest complain was to loose my workflow from Inbox. Google killing this just kills one argument from my list. Sadly.<p>I like the UI. I really, really like the reminders and the bundles. And the ability to postpone a message to see it as new some later time was a big boon too.<p>I know - lot&#x27;s of that is already in Gmail. But the UI is just so... not there. Well. Again - Google killing a great product that only a minority of people are using. It is not that nerds matter.
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giggsey超过 6 年前
Does Gmail have any features like Inbox&#x27;s groupings for Trips?<p>I have a lot of emails grouped together into a Trip, which Inbox helpfully shows a card summary for (including flights and reservations).
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DanFeldman超过 6 年前
Damnit, I love inbox and I use it everyday. Much preferred to the GMAIL ui, seemed less cluttered to me and the swiping features to archive&#x2F;snooze&#x2F;pin were great. Yikes. It worked really well out of the box for bundling and didn&#x27;t need much configuration. RIP inbox.
quxbar超过 6 年前
Okay, what can I download for iPhone to replace this? It was truly a beautiful UX. I loved it every single day I used it.
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elboru超过 6 年前
Inbox was the first tool that helped me reach &quot;inbox zero&quot;. I really liked the feel of seeing the cute landscape after I was done with my email. Anyways I saw this coming since they took a lot of time to update their app for the iPhone X.
uses超过 6 年前
I don&#x27;t know why this surprises me but this just feels weird.<p>I felt like Inbox was the product that I was supposed to get on board with. It really is true that you just can&#x27;t love google products. They make it freaking impossible.
jeffkeen超过 6 年前
What a cruel joke! That was a really great product.<p>I&#x27;ve completely given up hope of anything I love in technology lasting unless it&#x27;s a paid product from a company that doesn&#x27;t rely on advertising for revenue. Even then it&#x27;s not perfect, but fuck if this isn&#x27;t CLASSIC GOOGLE BULLSHIT.<p>Sometimes it&#x27;s killing a perfectly good product (ala Reader) after getting everyone to emotionally invest in it, and then there&#x27;s the equally frustrating aquihire. Sell the lie that the beloved product will continue and that the team is so excited for the Incredible Journey[1] ahead and then bam, bullet to the head. Product killed.<p>I still have scars from Reader, Sparrow, and Songza. And Mailbox! Looks like I switched to Fastmail just in time to avoid another heartbreak. Not too fancy but reliable AF and not going anywhere. Money well spent.<p>Between this and Apple&#x27;s post-Steve product decisions I&#x27;m becoming a curmudgeon in this current world of technology, wishing we could turn the clock back the clock nine years to when things made more sense.<p>But honestly, in my fantasy world you know what I&#x27;d love to see? Some sort of statement that went along with an app detailing what their future plan is for cashing out or shutting down. Like, &quot;If we don&#x27;t survive as a business we will open source our product and provide an avenue for you to continue using it&quot;. Or, &quot;We&#x27;re building a sustainable lifestyle business and are not interested in being swallowed up by Google and being shut down&quot; Or &quot;We&#x27;re looking to cash the fuck out ASAP! No guarantees; enjoy the ride!&quot;<p>I have fun dreams.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ourincrediblejourney.tumblr.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ourincrediblejourney.tumblr.com&#x2F;</a>
maybeiambatman超过 6 年前
WTF. I have been using and loving (for the most part) Inbox since they launched it. I had to work so hard to bring down my Inbox to zero. <i>sigh</i> I guess with Google, I should have expected as much.
antirez超过 6 年前
I don&#x27;t understand Google here. Clearly Gmail is not the final word about email user interface, and Inbox was a very promising first step. I can understand, if Inbox did not receive enough attention, to start moving Inbox to different directions, but how is it possible that Google has no space for a permanent alternative UI testing project?
4rgento超过 6 年前
This may be a case of following the data with disregard to the dynamics.<p>1. In the beginning there was G Mail and there where two camps(roughly):<p><pre><code> a. Those who made heavy use of e-mail, and where &quot;adapted&quot; to the user interface. b. Those who had problems with the UI(replying to all their emails, etc...) </code></pre> Of those two camps: those in camp `a` where unlikely to switch. That would have interfered with their workflow.<p>Those in camp `b`, not all switched because people resist change. Change takes energy.<p>2. Then there was `Inbox`<p>Now, there is a subset of camp `b` which has adapted its workflow to use Inbox. The most satisfied ones are here complaining :).<p>They don&#x27;t want to go back to G mail, but will be forced to.<p>The questions I would ask, if I were responsible for shutting down Inbox, are:<p>* How many people were leaving inbox for G mail? * Why?
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lechiffre10超过 6 年前
What&#x27;s the point of adopting Google products if most end up being canned? I love that they&#x27;re willing to release cool new products but it&#x27;s almost like a bunch of children who quickly move on to another set of toys
dfischer超过 6 年前
That makes me sad. I love the snooze features of inbox. The new gmail one is not the same. :(. Especially the UX of the iPhone app.<p>Oh well.
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akshaynathan超过 6 年前
Sad to see this here, but if anyone is interested in a new tool with some of the features of Inbox (snoozing, pinning and more to come), we&#x27;re building Monolist (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;monolist.co" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;monolist.co</a>).<p>Monolist integrates directly into the tools you use and surfaces things that you can act on inline in the app (missed Slack mentions, Asana tasks, Calendar invites etc.). We&#x27;re actually working on a GMail integration right now and would love to hear from the community what kinds of Inbox features we could replicate successfully.
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Griever超过 6 年前
As a heavy Inbox user this is definitely a bummer, but I do feel a bit relieved to know what is coming to Gmail.<p>Last month a video showing some future updates to the Material Design components leaked. If you check out <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;0mAude0774I?t=1m27s" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;0mAude0774I?t=1m27s</a> you can (briefly) see that the version of Gmail they&#x27;re showing has a lot of functionality seen in Inbox, particularly Trip cards and expandable message bodies. Fingers crossed!
kevindong超过 6 年前
I still deeply miss Mailbox (the cross platform app bought and abandoned by Dropbox). It was <i></i>SO<i></i> fast and sleek. Emails appeared damn near instantly, the app never lagged, and actions taken locally were reflected remotely near instantaneously.<p>Email clients are a lot better now than then. In fact the best features of Mailbox (swipe to &#x2F;action&#x2F; and snoozing) has been copied by basically every email client now. However, I have yet to find an email app for either macOS or iOS that&#x27;s as consistently fast.
hackathonguy超过 6 年前
Pinning, bundling, gestures and embedded todos&#x2F;reminders all make Inbox the best email app there is. Hats off to the Inbox team - you&#x27;ve made a great product. I&#x27;ll miss it.
adrwhong超过 6 年前
Hmm this really sucks, especially for my daily&#x2F;hourly reminders that I have set up. What are others using to replace Inbox&#x27;s reminders?
mezzode超过 6 年前
Inbox has got to be the single most useful productivity tool for me. Pinning, bundling, and snoozing just make managing emails so quick and efficient since you can easily triage and get rid of what doesn&#x27;t matter, and Gmail as it currently stands just can&#x27;t compete.<p>If bundling and pinning aren&#x27;t brought over to Gmail like snooze, Gmail is basically dead to me from an efficiency perspective since manually selecting what you want to remove takes significantly longer than pinning and sweeping in Inbox.<p>Worse still, there&#x27;s the opposite problem if we wanted to build an Inbox successor on top of Gmail since while bundling and pinning would be easily implemented by the client, snooze is <i>still</i> not part of the Gmail API[1] so there would need to be a completely separate layer of snoozing in the client.<p>Honestly, if a competitor were to rise and implement Inbox&#x27;s feature set, my money is on the table.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;issuetracker.google.com&#x2F;issues&#x2F;109952618" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;issuetracker.google.com&#x2F;issues&#x2F;109952618</a>
thieving_magpie超过 6 年前
You&#x27;ve got to be kidding me. This was the last thing I used heavily. I&#x27;m out the door now. Good grief does this company frustrate me.
mcfunk超过 6 年前
I tried to move to Inbox but kept having to use the Gmail app after I would see alerts for mail and then was unable to find the message in question in Inbox without searching, which is tedious. The &quot;missed messages&quot; problem was one I couldn&#x27;t ever get past (maybe my own settings were to blame -- but at the end of the day it wasn&#x27;t worth the time to figure out).
matteska超过 6 年前
When Google shutdown their RSS Reader, Feedly lived...<p>What’s the Inbox successor going to be?
Myrmornis超过 6 年前
OK, how do I get Inbox&#x27;s &quot;sweep&quot; action in Gmail?<p>What &quot;sweep&quot; did is just in one click get rid of _everything_ that you haven&#x27;t pinned. It was a massive productivity boost for someone for whom dealing with email was mostly a waste of time (my company doesn&#x27;t really use email much, so my inbox mostly contained notifications from other apps).
jordanthoms超过 6 年前
Ugh! I love Inbox, going back to the Gmail interface feels awful in comparison. I love the grouping of emails by day so I can easily see everything that came in today.<p>Having a separate app that takes a different approach which heavy users of email might like makes sense - the UI you need when you are getting 100+ emails a day is very different from when you are getting 5.
wlesieutre超过 6 年前
Side-note on Google&#x27;s communication systems, I watch an email thread at work where it went:<p><pre><code> 1) Here are my questions 2) I&#x27;ve added responses below in BLUE 3) Additional feedback in GREEN 4) More responses in BROWN </code></pre> and it really made me miss Google Wave. Inline replies within long emails are not well handled.
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Guillaume86超过 6 年前
I&#x27;m another one of the disappointed long time users. Just tried Gmail again and the UI&#x2F;UX is not yet there, the ads in the app is also a big downgrade...<p>I also loved to use &quot;save to inbox&quot; feature (creating reminders from outside). It is a share option on android so accessible from pretty much anywhere and on PC I used the Inbox extension on chrome that has the same feature to save the current page.<p>Now for the future... I&#x27;m probably dreaming but I wish the snooze&#x2F;done paradigm would be provided by a stand-alone service and available system wide and in the cloud (with an open API). We should be able to &quot;snooze&quot; anything (a watsapp message, a sms, a web page) and select a date&#x2F;location&#x2F;device that will wake it again. Bundling could also be provided by the same service...<p>Edit: that service should of course also replace the several tasks&#x2F;reminders services and apps that google has created these last years.
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kkarakk超过 6 年前
Google says tasks is the replacement for the &quot;snooze&quot; feature but going to see deleted tasks is like i&#x27;m visiting the wayback machine -&gt; <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mail.google.com&#x2F;tasks&#x2F;canvas" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mail.google.com&#x2F;tasks&#x2F;canvas</a> genuinely made me go wtf
domenukk超过 6 年前
Inbox loads instantly and continues loading, GMail takes up to 10 Seconds in Firefox on a pretty decent machine...
raihansaputra超过 6 年前
I&#x27;m sure I&#x27;m repeating voices here, but I&#x27;m really sad. And the article also mentions Mailbox too which I used before and moved to Inbox because it had a similar interface&#x2F;structure. I love grouped archive&#x2F;delete, I love pins, I love snooze. Inbox, I feel, is the only sane way to do email.<p>I don&#x27;t know whether I want to even adopt a new product again, from anyone, and integrate it into my workflow. I&#x27;ve had Astrid (to Yahoo(?)), Sunshine Calendar (to Microsoft), Mailbox (to DropBox) gone and now it&#x27;s Inbox.<p>Maybe it is time to vote (and ask devs&#x2F;companies to enable us to) with our wallets. I have Todoist and trying out Notion, I really hope they don&#x27;t roll over soon.<p>Now I kinda understand people who want to roll their own tools for everything.. You don&#x27;t become dependent on others for what is important to you.
yebyen超过 6 年前
What is with this trend of &quot;discontinuing&quot; products that are already receiving little to no maintenance? Google is not the only one guilty of this.<p>From the announcement, I get the idea that if I use Inbox today, it will be gone and I will no longer be able to use it after the EOL date is passed. Is it really that hard to keep the lights on, for a product for which development has already been finished?<p>People like this product and it has features that no others do. I don&#x27;t want to go back to using the Gmail app on my Android either. There are tens of thousands of unmaintained Android apps from developers who may have even died, or at least we may never hear from again. So why should this one need to be formally sunsetted?<p>I am far more likely to quit email altogether, than to embrace a vanilla Gmail experience at this point.
andybak超过 6 年前
I&#x27;m struggling to post a comment that doesn&#x27;t just consist of a lot of swearv words strung together.<p>I knew this might happen but I&#x27;m really gutted. I&#x27;m actually worried about how my time management and workflow is going to fare in light of this.<p>It&#x27;s <i>weird</i> how much this bothers me.
kjhosein超过 6 年前
I was already a &#x27;power&#x27; Gmail user when Inbox was released. I had developed muscle-memory for prob 20 keyboard shortcuts and used Gmail mouse-free, had dozens of labels, used a slew of Gmail Labs, and had given up using an external email client (used Gmail in a browser exclusively).<p>Yet when Inbox came along, it was incredibly useful, especially on my phone. It was my choice of app for quickly digesting email on-the-go. I stopped using the Gmail app.<p>But conversely on the desktop, I remained a Gmail user and never used Inbox.<p>I understand that the rumors are that Bundles are coming to Gmail which is good and necessary. I can only hope that it&#x27;s as seamless in the mobile app as it is now in Inbox.<p>Long live Inbox!
bogomipz超过 6 年前
&gt;&quot;...as then senior VP Sundar Pichai explained in a blog post, Inbox was “designed to focus on what really matters.”&quot;<p>So does &quot;what really&quot; mattered then no longer matter now? Certainly email hasn&#x27;t fundamentally changed since then.
boomskats超过 6 年前
I gave up on using Inbox a few months ago as I started to find it too slow, and absolutely _loved_ the refreshed Gmail and Calendar interfaces.<p>However, I really hope that they fold the Reminders functionality from Keep into Gmail now, as the reminders integration across Inbox&#x2F;Keep&#x2F;Cal was one of my main reasons for sticking with it for as long as I did. That new Tasks interface is pretty, and I get what it&#x27;s doing by trying to be a bit more like Todoist, but I think bringing full-on Reminders to Gmail as &#x27;first class citizens&#x27; would make a lot of people miss Inbox much less, and probably get me to drop Todoist.
blablabla123超过 6 年前
I would have ended up using it if I hadn&#x27;t left GMail for good now. All the privacy revelations and planet-scale data mining of private data of the past years has led me to the conclusion it&#x27;s better to self-host in the long-term. (Ads based on my E-Mail conversations, Snowden, ...) At the moment I have a patch work solution based on different providers but at some point it&#x27;ll all be on my own servers.<p>I kind of miss the crazy new features but the other stuff is developing at a faster pace then ever and gets unexpected features. Inbox is pretty cool, I can even use it when I&#x27;m completely drunk ;)
stephanierobe超过 6 年前
If you&#x27;re looking for an alternative to Google Inbox, you should give SaneBox a try. You can train it so only the emails you want to see end up in your inbox. Here&#x27;s a $25 off code: www.sanebox.com&#x2F;inbox
yingw787超过 6 年前
I really like Inbox reminders and the smart addressee option when pressing the &quot;Compose&quot; button. I use reminders when I&#x27;m offline to save notes to myself. If I use my Google Home, then the reminders also show up in Inbox. I really liked how reminders and this part of the Google ecosystem integrated with my lifestyle routines. I guess I could switch to Todoist or roll my own thing, but it won&#x27;t be the same.<p>Needless to say I&#x27;m miffed by this news. It tells me it&#x27;s dangerous to love Google products no matter how great they are, because one day they&#x27;ll be taken away.
matwood超过 6 年前
I saw this coming when it took Google months to update the Inbox app for the iPhoneX. The regular gmail app was updated almost instantly. I started weaning myself off of Inbox then, even though it finally was updated.
Illniyar超过 6 年前
I think framing the conversation as a deprecation or discontinuation of a product is too generous towards Google. It makes it seem like the product has reached it&#x27;s end of life.<p>This isn&#x27;t a discontinuation, it&#x27;s a failure. If invoice was a startup this would be an &quot;our incredible journey&quot; article after the company has been acquired and it&#x27;s product destroyed.<p>Google has failed to monetize inbox.<p>Similarly it&#x27;s not that we don&#x27;t use google products because we fear they&#x27;ll discontinue it, google has failed too many times - you don&#x27;t bet on a company that fails so often.
Communitivity超过 6 年前
I hate that they did this to Inbox, after they did something similar to Wave. But, I think this is how they operate. Their strategy seems to be to build a product, launch it, see if it reaches some hidden very high threshold of use, if it doesn&#x27;t then discontinue it, and then either shelve it or open source it. I can&#x27;t fault them for that strategy, even though I don&#x27;t like the results, because I think that may be how they have to operate at their scale. I do wish they would have a policy of always open sourcing a product that they kill.
jorisw超过 6 年前
I&#x27;ve always used a particular email flow in Apple&#x27;s Mail.app that allows me to use my email exactly as an Inbox user here calls it: &quot;reminders as a first class citizen of your inbox&quot;. Is that what Inbox was for?<p>If so, am I the only one that uses Mail.app (or whatever email client) like this? :<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;jor.is&#x2F;mail-flow.jpg" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;jor.is&#x2F;mail-flow.jpg</a><p>In short: Sort by flags, then by date received. Keeps your actionables on top, even grouped by (flag color) category if you want. I never forget to deal with any of my emails.
ohitsdom超过 6 年前
I still use Inbox and I love it. I snooze reminders all the time for bills and regular maintenance tasks. If I snoozed something for a few years from now, does anyone know if it&#x27;ll work in gmail?
ocdtrekkie超过 6 年前
There&#x27;s been some revisionist history out there, but Inbox was intended to be &quot;the next version of Gmail&quot; at the time, until a near revolt internally about how the Gmail team &quot;ruined Gmail&quot; led them to launch it as a &quot;separate product&quot; instead.<p>Now that there&#x27;s a new new version of Gmail, which was rolled out a couple of months ago that hasn&#x27;t upset everyone, it&#x27;s unsurprising the unloved stepchild of the family is going away.<p>Old Gmail was version 1, Inbox was version 2, and the new Gmail is version 3.
Aeolun超过 6 年前
FFS! I finally managed to get into using Inbox, and Google is being google again and killing the project.<p>I guess there’s something to the adage that you shouldn’t use anything google if you want it to last.
hknd超过 6 年前
They merged the most useful features from inbox into the new gmail (1), and (imho) that&#x27;s a really good move. I&#x27;m really happy with gmai (and never was a &quot;true&quot; inbox user though).<p>1: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.blog.google&#x2F;products&#x2F;gmail&#x2F;stay-composed-heres-quick-rundown-new-gmail&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.blog.google&#x2F;products&#x2F;gmail&#x2F;stay-composed-heres-q...</a>
tzury超过 6 年前
Inbox so far is the very best email client I used. It is not an email client, rather a task manager. Mails, reminders, auto reminder, auto-grouping, oh, and TRIPS!<p>Oh man, trips, every incoming email related to a trip is automatically merged into the bundle, airline tickets, car rentals, hotels, flight schedule changes, you simply need nothing else, it was all there.<p>The new Gmail recently introduced is not getting close to Inbox.<p>I can&#x27;t believe they do it.
reality_czech超过 6 年前
Friends don&#x27;t let friends depend on Google products.
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Fire-Dragon-DoL超过 6 年前
This kills me. I loved the reminders mixed with emails, I didn&#x27;t need any separate app: all notes abd emails abd reminders in a single giant todo interface. It&#x27;s perfect. The migration guide states they have nothing for the reminders beside a stupid suggestion to use split screen with 2 apps on phone (which is not even close to what i need).<p>I&#x27;m looking around for alternative products that behave like inbox.
aequitas超过 6 年前
Inbox had two distinct content types, emails and reminders. Both where handled the same by Inbox but reminders don&#x27;t show up in Gmail. Anyone found yet how to migrate these to Gmail? I have a lot of reminders that are snoozed at specific times and also to &quot;Some day&quot;. Would really hate to loose them. I checked to data exporter Google provides and it has no entry for Inbox, only Gmail.
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jasonvorhe超过 6 年前
I really don&#x27;t get the problem here. Google&#x27;s intentions for Inbox were always clear in that it was an experiment to see where mail could be headed and where they could try things that may find their way into Gmail. That&#x27;s what they have done. Lots of features are now in Gmail. Now Inbox is being put to rest with about half a year of a retirement announcement in advance.
cl3m超过 6 年前
Is there any good todo manager with reminders and saved link with a snooze function like Inbox? or is there any way to see those in Gmail?
komali2超过 6 年前
If someone makes a clone that I can plug my @gmail.com account into, or just forward from, I will be a paying customer.
Mikeb85超过 6 年前
This isn&#x27;t huge news IMO. Lots of the UI changes have appeared in Gmail already and unless they were going to keep changing Inbox it no longer has a raison d&#x27;être.<p>And while I know some people aren&#x27;t a fan of Google shuttering products, I appreciate that they let you &#x27;test&#x27; the bleeding edge if you want.
albertfrostt超过 6 年前
I suggest you voice your opinion here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;productforums.google.com&#x2F;forum&#x2F;?utm_medium=email&amp;utm_source=footer#!msg&#x2F;inbox&#x2F;k-NVIvqwXt0&#x2F;9T2NTCf9BgAJ" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;productforums.google.com&#x2F;forum&#x2F;?utm_medium=email&amp;utm...</a>
allard超过 6 年前
Took me the better part of an hour to find snooze in the Android Gmail app. It wouldn&#x27;t appear until after I visited gmail.com in a full browser. That is a royal clustermess. I&#x27;m usually not annoyed by vendors changing their stuff. Super annoying to have to give up the blue app.
0xb100db1ade超过 6 年前
I&#x27;m switching to protonmail because of this. It has a nice UI and as a bonus I&#x27;ll get encryption.
dogweather超过 6 年前
I can&#x27;t keep the various gmail clients straight, so I&#x27;m not too broken up. AFAICT:<p>* I use Inbox most of the time, until... * I need to create a filter, and I switch to gmail to do it. * Then I continue using gmail because I forget to change back to Inbox...
StephenAshmore超过 6 年前
Well, I suppose I&#x27;ll be looking for a replacement to Gmail pretty quick. Long time inbox user from the beginning, and Gmail still isn&#x27;t caught up to it in UI&#x2F;UX, plus loads of my &quot;Done&quot; emails in inbox still show up in Gmail.
jon49超过 6 年前
Inbox wasn&#x27;t a web app. That&#x27;s why never used it. You had to install the app onto your phone. Since I&#x27;m a light user of email this didn&#x27;t make sense. From reading the comments I can see why people loved it as a full app though.
cmurf超过 6 年前
I&#x27;d like to see the new Gmail interface abandoned. It soaks my CPU doing all these b.s. animations that don&#x27;t actually advance the UI or the UX. And times millions of users, what&#x27;s the carbon footprint of all those extra CPU cycles?
Cub3超过 6 年前
This was the last thing keeping me in the Google Ecosystem, shattered that they&#x27;re killing it.<p>I heavily used the trips mail bundling with &quot;Google Trips&quot; integration for both personal business trips.<p>I think it&#x27;s finally time to port my mail to another carrier
gesman超过 6 年前
I like the search capability of inbox - it always was better than gmail.<p>It had it quirks due to &quot;designed to focus on what really matters.&quot; - actually meaning: &quot;we&#x27;ll ignore what you want and need and do it the way we think you need&quot;.
aristotle2超过 6 年前
Smart move. The UI wasn&#x27;t that great, the product wasn&#x27;t intuitive, and why would you have two inbox clients from one company? Normal people don&#x27;t use Inbox, they just want to use regular Gmail and not think about it.
etimberg超过 6 年前
That&#x27;s unfortunate. I really liked Inbox (other than the horrible performance)
vl超过 6 年前
Google&#x27;s communication strategy (and any other strategy really) is just a reflection of internal incentives structure and organization structure. One would hope that this is the other way around, but it is what it is.
eterps超过 6 年前
Time to start an open source version of Inbox? -&gt; <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;codepen.io&#x2F;simoberny&#x2F;pen&#x2F;bdvMyj" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;codepen.io&#x2F;simoberny&#x2F;pen&#x2F;bdvMyj</a>
awiesenhofer超过 6 年前
Is there any Win&#x2F;macos desktop app that works somewhat similar to Inbox?
radium3d超过 6 年前
Man, I just tried out gmail and the UI is so bloated and slow. C&#x27;mon google, don&#x27;t bullshit us that &quot;gmail&quot; is equivalent. It&#x27;s not about what it can do, it&#x27;s how it does it.
kposehn超过 6 年前
This really bums me out. I’ve been using inbox all-in since the start and have loved it since day one. Switching back to gmail is going to be a real challenge as I prefer the way it organizes my email.
andrewstuart超过 6 年前
Maybe the term for this is &quot;unfluencing&quot; - where you take a product used by many influencers and drop it, making them mad and hostile and reducing trust.<p>It&#x27;s the opposite to &quot;influencing&quot;.
dfleurantin超过 6 年前
Correct me if I&#x27;m wrong but was the purpose of Inbox to test and experiment new features&#x2F;functionality to be added to Gmail? It did not seem this was meant to be a long term solution.
bpye超过 6 年前
Yikes. I loved Inbox and was using it until a couple months ago. I moved to FastMail because I wanted to host my email with another provider. I certainly won&#x27;t be going back to Google now.
luord超过 6 年前
I&#x27;m really going to miss the remainders feature from inbox. Tried the task app for gmail and it doesn&#x27;t even allow setting a time, just date.<p>It also doesn&#x27;t have anything like pinning links.
agentPrefect超过 6 年前
To be honest; I&#x27;m a little surprised it&#x27;s lasted this long.
knorker超过 6 年前
Come on, you knew this was coming the day they launched it, right? They were not going to maintain both gmail and Inbox, and Inbox just could not win.<p>But it looks like gmail is getting Inbox features.
rcthompson超过 6 年前
I assumed this was coming eventually. It&#x27;s been clear for a while that Gmail is under active development and Inbox isn&#x27;t, so I figured Inbox&#x27;s days had to be numbered.
pantheon超过 6 年前
Hey guys, majority of people here are smart - why, why, why do you use any of Google products? Just learn to live without them and you will be much happier. Google is crap.
motiw超过 6 年前
To all inbox user I will appreciate your opinion on Centask which attempts to take inbox philosophy one step forward and completely merge Gmail inbox and task management
p90puma超过 6 年前
Feels like Google Reader 2.0 for me .... Fool me twice...
tluyben2超过 6 年前
Damn. Only yesterday I said to a friend that Inbox is miles above other stuff I used. Bah Google. At least Open Source it then so we can take over :(
cdaringe超过 6 年前
I can never relate to people&#x27;s love of this product. To me, it added noise and complexity to an otherwise simple email system. I aggressively tag, archive, and delete mail. I process and&#x2F;or backlog messages in conjunction with calendar to always keep my inbox to &lt;10 messages.<p>The cognitive overhead to maintain this discipline has and will forever be ~0.<p>Inbox is pure cruft over native Gmail. That&#x27;s an offensive opinion to many, I know, but the intrinsic value inbox brings is very low over other highly accessible tooling already available within a few clicks.
wnevets超过 6 年前
If you had to do with tons of email Inbox seem like it would be great. However it just got in the way when you only had to deal a few emails a day.
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vagab0nd超过 6 年前
I&#x27;m a little confused by the replies here. From the source article from Google [0], it sounds like they are planning on merging Inbox features back into Gmail and focusing on one product instead of two. They even put out a transition guide. I think long term this is a good thing. Why are people freaking out?<p>0: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.blog.google&#x2F;products&#x2F;gmail&#x2F;inbox-signing-find-your-favorite-features-new-gmail&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.blog.google&#x2F;products&#x2F;gmail&#x2F;inbox-signing-find-yo...</a>
darkvertex超过 6 年前
For anyone wondering how to see your Inbox &quot;pins&quot; in Gmail, search for &quot;label:pinned&quot; (it&#x27;s a secret label!)
dev_parrott超过 6 年前
This is devastating news. I&#x27;m going to completely change my workflow around email. Does anybody know of a comparable product?
n72超过 6 年前
Ugh. I while back I switched all my gcal events which emailed me to reminders. Now I have to change them all back again.
ben_jones超过 6 年前
Why isn&#x27;t Google more clear on the life expectancy of its products? Because it would hurt adoption numbers.
divanvisagie超过 6 年前
So... anyone know of an open source mail client that is designed around the same philosophy as inbox?
albertfrostt超过 6 年前
Brutal. Hope someone builds an Inbox replacement before next March. Gmail feels archaic after Inbox.
tvanantwerp超过 6 年前
Google breaks my heart yet again. Farewell, Inbox!<p>I guess next they&#x27;ll discontinue my phone service, too.
kag0超过 6 年前
Is anyone interested in building a new email client&#x2F;service based on the inbox-as-a-todo-list paradigm?<p>Maybe something that would work with any email provider but would sync todo&#x2F;done&#x2F;snoozed state with our server. Or perhaps could embed that state in IMAP flags.<p>I&#x27;d be open to working on the backend and arch if there&#x27;s interest.
mikulabc超过 6 年前
Don&#x27;t worry people, remember Google latitude? It was gone and came back :)
emodendroket超过 6 年前
Thunderbird is still around and I&#x27;m sticking with it as long as it works.
sjg007超过 6 年前
Gmail search is terrible... it’s the one thing I don’t get why it’s so bad.
ssijak超过 6 年前
Ok, this was the last thing that will push me off of Google services. I was already reluctant to use their new apps and services and was pondering moving anyway. Anyhow only thing that does not have proper replacement is Photos but I will manage.
jryan49超过 6 年前
Hmm, maybe we should create an open source version of inbox?
fh973超过 6 年前
Meanwhile Gmail search is still not working properly...
sabujp超过 6 年前
inbox made gmail slower, used more memory to display the same content, just give me alpine in a browser with decent search
afro88超过 6 年前
Anyone know why they&#x27;re shuttering it?
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bitcharmer超过 6 年前
Typical Google
noja超过 6 年前
Good news everyone: Google will be integrating their Trips feature into Trio (the successor to Duo after it sunsets next month).
philip1209超过 6 年前
Superhuman is a great alternative.
joboyx超过 6 年前
Please don&#x27;t shutdown Inbox!
foobarbazetc超过 6 年前
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
jakeogh超过 6 年前
Google: redefining reliable
brazzledazzle超过 6 年前
This is pretty frustrating.
mcilai超过 6 年前
No!!!!!!!!!!!!!
talles超过 6 年前
didgoogleshutdown.com needs an update
AzzieElbab超过 6 年前
Clearly evil
spookyuser超过 6 年前
They can pry it from my cold dead hands
welix92超过 6 年前
Good riddance
svrtknst超过 6 年前
Aw fuck.
samirm超过 6 年前
good riddance
gammateam超过 6 年前
OOPS
domoritz超过 6 年前
Noooooo. I love bundling and the Gmail UI is just so cluttered with stuff.<p>EDIT: Okay, they are porting bundling to Gmail. I hope they also clean up the UI. The settings dialog is a nightmare to look at.
josephh超过 6 年前
Finally, they are following through with their own app store policy of banning apps with “repetitive content”[1].<p>1. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;play.google.com&#x2F;about&#x2F;developer-content-policy-print&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;play.google.com&#x2F;about&#x2F;developer-content-policy-print...</a>