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Tiddlywiki – A non-linear personal web notebook

331 点作者 entelechy超过 6 年前

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mih超过 6 年前
Ever since the decline of Evernote, I&#x27;ve been looking for something as convenient, but been pretty much disappointed in the alternatives. For a while Qownnotes was my choice, but it&#x27;s not without its drawbacks. Currenlty Joplin ( <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;joplin.cozic.net&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;joplin.cozic.net&#x2F;</a> ) is the one I&#x27;m taking for a test drive, and I&#x27;m pretty much pleased with what I&#x27;ve seen so far. Among the features that impressed me most in terms of personal priority are:<p>- Importing from Evernote (.enex files)<p>- Cross-platform support (Win&#x2F;Lin&#x2F;Mac) + Mobile apps (ios &#x2F; Android)<p>- Synchronization (Dropbox, Onedrive, Nextcloud, WebDAV, Filesystem)<p>- Support for encryption<p>- Webclipper extension (for Firefox and Chrome)<p>- It&#x27;s FOSS, with a number of active contributors on GitHub (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;laurent22&#x2F;joplin" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;laurent22&#x2F;joplin</a>). A good bus factor and no more dependence on the whims of private organizations.<p>- A command line interface<p>- Use of Markdown. Drag and drop support for files and media in the GUI.<p>There are still features of evernote I miss such as inline PDFs and audio recording
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TomDavey超过 6 年前
A hyperlinked knowledge-management system for personal use, on all my computers, is essential. To achieve it, I use Emacs and Org-Mode and Dropbox.<p>An additional benefit of using Emacs: the personal wiki can be integrated with my task-management system, which Org-Mode handles as well. Plus I can draft and edit at warp speed, having customized the native Emacs keybindings to suit me better.<p>Were I going to publish my wiki to the Web for others to use, I&#x27;d export the wiki to HTML with Org. But for now it&#x27;s all personal.
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pixelmonkey超过 6 年前
I personally think Tiddlywiki is a fascinating project and I even used it professionally for a few years. But, these days, I think you likely do better with either a Dropbox directory full of Markdown files or installing the free tool Simplenote everywhere (mobile&#x2F;desktop) and using its support for notes&#x2F;Markdown. It&#x27;s true that if you go with these simple schemes, you lose wiki-style linking. But, I&#x27;ve found that YAGNI applies here.
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Glawen超过 6 年前
I discovered TW a few months ago and I decided to use it for our new project at work. We use it to document our SW, one tiddler for each module. So far, it is working great, we can quite easily merge our code and doc because everything is in one file.<p>I find it much easier to use than Word. My colleagues were startled by it, but they mastered it now.<p>The only annoying thing are:<p>- we need to press 2 carriage return to go to the next line<p>- the markup languages are never standard. we use redmine with textile which is kinda compatible with TW, but not 100%
hobo_mark超过 6 年前
I look at TW every couple of years or so, and there has never been either:<p>- a sane way to keep a wiki on something like Dropbox (at the time, the only way to have persistence was to disable browser security and allow JavaScript to write to disk directly) or<p>- a service to sync a wiki between machines<p>Has that changed nowadays?
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TeMPOraL超过 6 年前
A bit of a tangent, but I&#x27;m looking at the (official? shown on site) Tiddlywiki poster[0], and I just have to ask: what is that fish doing, and does this really communicate something positive about the product?<p>--<p>[0] - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tiddlywiki.com&#x2F;poster&#x2F;images&#x2F;TiddlyWiki_TiddlerPoster_en_L.png" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tiddlywiki.com&#x2F;poster&#x2F;images&#x2F;TiddlyWiki_TiddlerPoste...</a>
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lxe超过 6 年前
The most unique thing for me is the fact that it&#x27;s an .html file that you can just download and run. The data&#x2F;saving mechanism is completely separate. This &quot;unhosted-ness&quot; seems to be a growing trend.
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eponeponepon超过 6 年前
I tried using TiddlyWiki some years back but never really reached the stage where I felt I could definitely trust my use of it to result in it saving my notes properly. The real utility of it, I&#x27;m sure, comes with a large corpus - but I never got there.<p>At the time though, my only option was keeping it as a local file on a single machine - these days my home infrastructure is much more developed, and I think I might have more luck running it on a proper http server. Maybe I&#x27;ll give it another shot.
cbau超过 6 年前
I&#x27;ve been writing a personal encyclopedia for the last five or six years or so. I have some 1500+ articles multiple of which are 50+ pages. I think it&#x27;s been really valuable. I think I get a few things out of it:<p>1. Perfect recall. Every little detail I read in a book&#x2F;blog&#x2F;article stays with me. Makes it easy to synthesize results from multiple pieces across time, which is useful when you only have a casual interest in something. (I really like downloading the cool education images&#x2F;GIFs and and inserting them in articles- otherwise I don&#x27;t know where I&#x27;d keep them.)<p>2. Reveals what I don&#x27;t know about a subject. For example, whenever I start off writing a new article on some topic, the first thing I write is a definition, e.g. &quot;A cat is an animal that ...&quot;. The process of doing that often reveals gaps in my understanding.<p>3. It makes me better at asking questions when I&#x27;m trying to understand something. The analogy I like to make here is that learning a second language is harder than a third language, because after learning the second you know what you need to know to understand a language. But there&#x27;s no reason that should be limited to languages and couldn&#x27;t apply to all things, and things themselves. Some questions I like to ask are &quot;What is the function&#x2F;uses of this thing?&quot; &quot;What are the parts of this thing and how are they arranged?&quot; &quot;How do we make this thing?&quot; &quot;What&#x27;s the history of this thing?&quot; &quot;What subtypes of this thing are there?&quot;<p>The downside is that it dramatically slows down my reading speed, since I now feel I need to take detailed notes, and then I often have to reconcile them with notes on other things which can be time-consuming. Considering the number of books a person could realistically read in their lifetime is limited, it&#x27;s unclear if it&#x27;s worth the tradeoff.<p>I&#x27;m curious how other people think about remembering things, and if they have a system, what tools they use. It seems unsatisfying to me to read a book and realize I&#x27;ll probably forget it in four years, yet most people seem content to do so.<p>If anyone is interested in the specific software I use, here&#x27;s the Github project: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;Ceasar&#x2F;Encyclopedia" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;Ceasar&#x2F;Encyclopedia</a>. It uses restructuedText (as opposed to Markdown) for the text. I edit them using Vim. All the files are stored in Dropbox so it gets synced between my devices. A simple Flask web server renders the pages in a prettier format.<p>Still very primitive compared to what it could potentially be, but combined with regular Unix command line tools it&#x27;s worked fine for my needs. (I like the idea of a hacker-wiki by the way, more than something like this which comes out of the box. Seems like an personal wiki designed for a power user could be way more interesting.)
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hboon超过 6 年前
An anecdote:<p>In a previous job as a presales engineer, I kept notes of prospects and customers in a TiddlyWiki. When I left, I handed the file over to my replacement. He told me after a few years that the &quot;wiki&quot; was of great help to him.
agentdax5超过 6 年前
I looked into Tiddlywiki before but it seemed too involved to maintain easily and overkill for my use case. I have recently found <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.notebooksapp.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.notebooksapp.com&#x2F;</a> and am in the process of converting all my desperate notes and documents into it using the internal linking to create my own kind of wiki.<p>Everything is plain text, has markdown support, apps on most platforms, ability to automate things for everyday use, and easier to use overall.<p>Also I just can’t stand the idea of “tiddlers”.
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jtl999超过 6 年前
I remember first hearing of TiddlyWiki back in 2005(?)<p>Glad to see it&#x27;s still here.
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hyperpape超过 6 年前
I wrote my own system for capturing and organizing information (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;lobste.rs&#x2F;s&#x2F;ord0rg&#x2F;does_anyone_else_keep_their_own_knowledge#c_cxecdn" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;lobste.rs&#x2F;s&#x2F;ord0rg&#x2F;does_anyone_else_keep_their_own_k...</a>), so I understand the desire to fiddle with your own system.<p>That said, the list of literally 20 different ways of storing your Tiddlywiki data is user-hostile. Don&#x27;t tell me that you have a Node server and a PHP server, just give me the easiest way to self-host, how to use Dropbox&#x2F;Google Drive, or perhaps one more option. You can include a link to &quot;other options&quot;, but don&#x27;t put them front and center.<p>Even open-source tools that appeal to us nerds need some attention to marketing.
carapace超过 6 年前
Here&#x27;s a single-page &quot;simple self-contained web notebook inspired by the &quot;classic&quot; version of TiddlyWiki.&quot;<p>Live demo: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;calroc.github.io&#x2F;HulloWurld&#x2F;Hullo.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;calroc.github.io&#x2F;HulloWurld&#x2F;Hullo.html</a><p>Once you&#x27;re seeing the page you have it all. Click the &quot;Save...&quot; button to keep a local copy with any edit you&#x27;ve made. If you right-click and &quot;save page&quot; you&#x27;ll get the original content only.)<p>Repo is here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;calroc&#x2F;HulloWurld" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;calroc&#x2F;HulloWurld</a><p>It&#x27;s just a simple experiment, nothing fancy.
rwbt超过 6 年前
TiddlyWiki is great, but I really need is something like Notational Velocity but everything is stored in a single html file (with .js embedded of course), so that it&#x27;s very portable.
ttroyr超过 6 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.notion.so" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.notion.so</a> offers an excellent balance of power &amp; simplicity. Definitely worth a try for those who prefer to visualize the connection between different projects. Shines in long-term planning &amp; wiki knowledge collection.
igorp74超过 6 年前
After TiddlyWiki classic with tons of plugins, I used SpringPad while it lived, then Evernote but markdown was able only via browser addon (Markdown here or something). OneNote never suited for my needs and finally settled down with Quip.com. It is like TW with all fancy plugins + live editing...
rb808超过 6 年前
Nothing beats a plain text file for me.
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rmu09超过 6 年前
For those who want to sync TiddlyWiki between multiple computers, there also is <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;noteself.github.io&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;noteself.github.io&#x2F;</a>.<p>This TiddlyWiki-variant stores documents in the browser (pouchdb) and can sync to a couchdb-server.
platz超过 6 年前
<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;mgsd.tiddlyspot.com&#x2F;demo3.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;mgsd.tiddlyspot.com&#x2F;demo3.html</a> TiddlyWiki powered GTD system<p>there is a newer version, but I think it&#x27;s worse than the old one.
darpa_escapee超过 6 年前
Besides Tiddlywiki, does anyone have recommendations for personal wiki software?
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qwerty456127超过 6 年前
Does it integrate with Gitub Pages? I&#x27;d like my personal WiKi to be shared as a part of my Jekyll-powered Gitub Pages blog (and I&#x27;d love to see more people go this way sharing their knowledge).
shawn超过 6 年前
I&#x27;d like to be able to press a shortcut key and have my computer save a screenshot of whatever I&#x27;m looking at, along with letting me type a brief note for context. Ideally it would also record the URL of whatever the browser was visiting (if it&#x27;s a screenshot of a browser page), or the file path of whatever was open.<p>So basically Pinboard, but for pages of PDFs and other random scraps.
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