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Supply Chain Security Is the Whole Enchilada, but Who’s Willing to Pay for It?

148 点作者 johnshades超过 6 年前

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dev_dull超过 6 年前
I’m not a protectionist, but we need to start looking USA-based semiconductor supply capacity as a national security imperative. We should never lose our ability to manufacture these critical components, even it means policies that might be viewed as “protectionist”.
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nickpsecurity超过 6 年前
The DOD has been paying it through the Trusted Foundry Program. Probably not enough use of that, though. ;)<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.dmea.osd.mil&#x2F;trustedic.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.dmea.osd.mil&#x2F;trustedic.html</a>
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teddyh超过 6 年前
“If it’s a core business function — do it yourself, no matter what.”<p>­— Joel Spolsky, talking about Not-Invented-Here programming<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.joelonsoftware.com&#x2F;2001&#x2F;10&#x2F;14&#x2F;in-defense-of-not-invented-here-syndrome&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.joelonsoftware.com&#x2F;2001&#x2F;10&#x2F;14&#x2F;in-defense-of-not-...</a>
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iambateman超过 6 年前
Can someone explain why a semiconductor production facility would be “punishingly” expensive to operate in the US?<p>Maybe the cost of electricity, but it seems like the labor cost wouldn’t make a huge difference since most of the production work (I presume) is automated.
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rkagerer超过 6 年前
Once upon a time computers came with a full schematic diagram and enthusiasts could actually verify what they received. My point isn&#x27;t so much the diagram as it is the culture of [showing&#x2F;]knowing what&#x27;s inside your black box.
CPLX超过 6 年前
This seems like as good an excuse as any to post a link to the seminal “Reflections on Trusting Trust”:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.archive.ece.cmu.edu&#x2F;~ganger&#x2F;712.fall02&#x2F;papers&#x2F;p761-thompson.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.archive.ece.cmu.edu&#x2F;~ganger&#x2F;712.fall02&#x2F;papers&#x2F;p7...</a><p>It’s an absolute classic that I’m sure 97% of HN readers are familiar with, but for the 3% that aren’t it’s a really great meditation on just how difficult it is to trust any computing system, without somehow recursively assessing the trustworthiness of everything that has ever happened before.
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yc-kraln超过 6 年前
This is the kind of attack that the trustless.ai guys are fighting. They&#x27;ve secured their supply chain down to the silicon vendor at a fab in Italy. Really cool project.
stcredzero超过 6 年前
Is Apple willing to pay for supply chain security? Could they afford it?<p><pre><code> Writing for this week’s newsletter put out by the SANS Institute, a security training company based in Bethesda, Md., editorial board member William Hugh Murray has a few provocative thoughts: 1. Abandon the password for all but trivial applications. 2. Abandon the flat network. 3. Move traffic monitoring from encouraged to essential. 4. Establish and maintain end-to-end encryption for all applications. 5. Abandon the convenient but dangerously permissive default access control rule of “read&#x2F;write&#x2F;execute”</code></pre>
Animats超过 6 年前
This is going to be a huge problem. If that backdoor exists, someone will find it and use it. Not necessarily the people who put it there.
simplecomplex超过 6 年前
The supply chain is secure. But that’s not FUD that sells. The gap between mainstream news and tech news is closing.
maltalex超过 6 年前
&gt; Indeed, noted security expert Bruce Schneier calls supply-chain security “an insurmountably hard problem.”<p>Centrally, yes. But supply chain verification &amp; tracking is one thing blockchains are genuinely good at. There are actual blockchain-based products on the market for that.<p>Imagine a company such as Apple forcing their suppliers to authenticate each production step from raw material to shipped good on a proprietary blockchain. It&#x27;s certainly doable from a technical standpoint, and Apple&#x27;s suppliers are probably eager enough not to lose Apple&#x27;s business to comply.
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