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Ask HN: How expensive is living in Silicon Valley

90 点作者 niico超过 14 年前
I thinking on moving there next year. I really want to jump in the tech action right away.<p>Where is the best place to move? How expensive could cost every month of living on average?<p>Thanks

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nostromo超过 14 年前
In the spirit of openness...<p>Rent: I live on Nob Hill in SF. I pay $1950 for a big, nice one bedroom with a little office and a small private yard. (100sq feet.) When I signed the lease I was making good money so it didn't seem expensive. Since then I've decided to focus on my start-up full time, so now it does seem slightly pricey. (I only pay 50% though -- I'm coupled.) I've lived in New York and Seattle, and SF is nowhere near as expensive as New York and nowhere near as affordable as Seattle (in terms of renting, not buying).<p>Beyond rent, things are very affordable.<p>Transportation: cheap, cars are optional (I don't need one; I hate mechanics and oil changes and parking...). I get my groceries delivered and use ZipCar when I have to drive. This is a huge savings and a good reason to live in the heart of the city. Instead of a gym, I just walk up the hill everyday.<p>Healthcare: I'm on Cobra right now, but will qualify for SF City HealthCare for free soon, as I'll be making little money. This is a big reason to live in SF and not the peninsula. <a href="http://www.healthysanfrancisco.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.healthysanfrancisco.org</a><p>Entertainment: The most expensive thing I do is eat out with friends semi-regularly. However, I've found that for geeks, there are a ton of meet ups and other social events that are 100% free -- and they're usually the best way to have fun.<p>Other threads are noting the cost of rent in SF, but for me, the city health care coverage and not needing a car (or insurance, or gas, or parking) more than makes up for it.
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mk超过 14 年前
Check it out for yourself on the awesome padmapper: <a href="http://www.padmapper.com/?lat=37.69897768523249&#38;lng=-122.43988037109376&#38;minRent=0&#38;maxRent=6000&#38;searchTerms=&#38;maxPricePerBedroom=6000&#38;minBR=0&#38;maxBR=10&#38;minBA=1&#38;maxAge=7&#38;imagesOnly=false&#38;cats=false&#38;dogs=false&#38;noFee=false&#38;showSubs=true&#38;showNonSubs=true&#38;userId=-1&#38;cl=true&#38;apts=true&#38;ood=true&#38;forrent=true&#38;zoom=12&#38;favsOnly=false&#38;workplaceLat=0&#38;workplaceLong=0&#38;maxTime=0" rel="nofollow">http://www.padmapper.com/?lat=37.69897768523249&#38;lng=-122...</a>
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aeontech超过 14 年前
Since most responses focus on SF or the peninsula, I want to add my 2c. Living in East Bay (Oakland or Berkeley) is also a good option. Rent in Emeryville/South Berkeley/North Oakland is cheaper than SF, but it's still easy to get to SF/Peninsula by BART.<p>We were renting a 1400sq ft 3 bedroom house in Emeryville for $1750/mo a couple years back, and a 700sq ft 1 bedroom apartment in South Berkeley for $750/mo before that. An 1800 sq ft house in Oakland rents for about $2200.<p>There's a lot of students in Berkeley, so it's also easier to find rooms/sublets than in SF, possibly. As far as public transit goes, it's a bit more painful than SF, but not too bad. My morning commute from Oakland to work in SOMA takes about 30 minutes - 10 minute walk, 15 minutes (2 stops) on BART, another 5 minute walk. No stress, no driving, no tolls, no parking fees ($3 dollars one way, versus $5 bridge toll, $20 for a day's parking downtown, and a couple bucks in gas you'd spend driving).<p><a href="http://housingmaps.com/" rel="nofollow">http://housingmaps.com/</a> (craigslist frontend) can give you a good idea about the price ranges around different locations in the Bay Area.
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whatevers2009超过 14 年前
I've lived in Portland Oregon, Seattle Washington, Dallas Texas, and San Francisco as well as Silicon Valley and I can honestly say living in SF or Silicon Valley is way more expensive. Rent probably averages about $1700-$2300 for a decent one bedroom apartment and more for two bedroom per month.<p>Utilities are about the same everywhere you live. Public transportation is a bit spendier than every other city I've lived in (Caltrain and BART costs). Unsure about the Bus, it's probably comparable.<p>Sales Tax is ridiculously higher here than anywhere I've been. If you live in the city and eat out, expect an addition 3-4% health tax charged at most restaurants.<p>Parking sucks in the city. Street cleaning tickets of $53 to $103 dollars are VERY common. Expect to bankroll a ton of parking meters whether you live downtown or not or pay a lot in parking garages if you plan on using your car to get around the city.<p>Entertainment costs are also higher than most other places I've lived. A standard movie ticket here is like $11 or so up to $17 with IMAX per ticket per showing. That should give you a rough idea of cost.<p>Groceries and Household Shopping. I've compared cost of stuff like shampoo and what not to cost I use to pay outside of California and noticed that for the same size bottle or smaller, I am paying possible a couple dollars more even from the same store. So cost of goods is slightly more expensive here base on a few comparisons I've done.<p>That should give you a ROUGH estimate on how much things cost around here and what it would be like.
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frederickcook超过 14 年前
Garry Tan from Posterous made this a while back:<p><a href="http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&#38;oe=UTF8&#38;msa=0&#38;msid=111291639665197066699.00048b3c0d910bf1a232a" rel="nofollow">http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&#38;oe=UTF8&#38;msa=0...</a>
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veemjeem超过 14 年前
Pretty cheap in mountain view. I pay around $600 for rent (2 bedroom with roommate). Food prices are actually comparable/cheaper than other places in the US. If you shop at those asian grocery stores, you can get similar produce at about half the cost that Safeway/Kroger would normally sell at. Price for a normal cheap dinner on Castro St is around $8-12.<p>If you're renting, Silicon Valley is actually comparable to the rest of the USA. When I lived in Atlanta, I paid around $500 for rent, but I had to drive a lot further to access public transportation.
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LeBlanc超过 14 年前
Food is also a lot more expensive. You can mitigate this a lot by cooking all your own food and not eating out. Shopping from low cost markets like The Milk Pail <a href="http://www.milkpail.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.milkpail.com/</a> will help a lot.<p>My recommendation for eating cheaply is to make sure to have good collection of spices. It costs a lot upfront (~$40-60) but it will allow you to subsist on really cheap food without going crazy. Living off rice and beans is a lot more fun and tasty when you can make masala rice.
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bigbang超过 14 年前
I pay 800$ for a single bed apt(~600-700 sq.ft) in Sunnyvale. Apartments which don't have gated community,pools,gym etc are cheaper. I realized I never used those anyway, so I moved to an apt which have none of these(but has covered parking). Usually these are smaller blocks of ~6 apts and older. There are plenty of those in south bay when I looked.
PStamatiou超过 14 年前
I live in the Mission and have a ~400 sq foot studio in a not-vintage building (~1970s) for $1600/month (includes $250/month parking spot). I'm 4 blocks from Safeway, Muni rail, Bart, my gym, 2 blocks from other Muni buses.
feverishaaron超过 14 年前
We rent at $2,200.00/mo for a 4/2 in south sj. That would be 3-3.5k in mountain view or cupertino, when we looked in August. If you time it right, you can find cheaper places. The absolute worse time to move (highest rents) is right before school starts.<p>Gas is $3.15/gal right now.<p>Food is ranges from 0%-15% more than the midwest (our comparison point). Shopping at local markets and farmers markets for produce will save you quite a bit.<p>Other chain stores and casual restaurants seem to cost slightly more than we were used to paying.<p>Any service that requires direct labor (gardening, cleaning etc) is going to be significantly more expensive than other metros, because the base cost of living is so much higher.
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bearwithclaws超过 14 年前
Paul Stamatiou made a great post a while back on moving to SF: <a href="http://paulstamatiou.com/atlanta-to-san-francisco-moving-cross-country" rel="nofollow">http://paulstamatiou.com/atlanta-to-san-francisco-moving-cro...</a>
lsc超过 14 年前
silicon valley is <i>way</i> cheaper than SF, but it's much less friendly to people who don't have cars. If you live near a caltrain and you work for a major corporation, you can probably get away with not having a car (most major companies have company shuttles that go to the caltrain) but it will put a crimp in your social activities.<p>Silicon Valley is essentially suburb. You can pay as much as you want on the high end... on the low end, a room in a house or shared appartment in the "poor" parts of Santa Clara or Sunnyvale might be $650/month.<p>the upside, here, is that things near the train stops are generally cheaper. I rented a 2bed 1bath apartment right over the Lawrence express way caltrain in santa clara for $1250/month total ($625 per person.)<p>If you want to live alone, the low end is $800-$1000.<p>The interesting thing about the valley is that I don't know of any neighbourhoods south of east palo alto and north of San Jose that I'd feel uncomfortable walking around in at night. And most of San Jose is pretty okay, too, so don't be afraid of the low end.<p>Food? in the grocery store, as far as I can tell, it costs about the same as anywhere. If you go out to eat, well, fast food is about as cheap as it is elsewhere. If you want to eat at local non-chains, you are looking at $8-$15 per meal, which is a bit more, I think, than most places.<p>If I were moving here for the social scene, personally, I'd get a cheap shared room close to the hacker dojo in mountain view.
jmtame超过 14 年前
$300/month at palo alto hacker house if you don't mind roommates (who happen to be interested in startups too). i think i was paying ~$700/month at the mountain view hacker house.
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niico超过 14 年前
Someone should make a mini site for "Entrepreneurs/Roomate dating"!<p>Like: Name, age, nationality, startup name, coding language, smoke? pets? girl/boyfriend?.<p>Same for people looking to share their officespace
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invertedlambda超过 14 年前
Definitely depends on where you'll be working and commuting from/to. Commuting is a big deal in my book.<p>My guide would be: if you work in the City, anywhere between SF and San Carlos is a good bet. You can avoid the morning commute by taking BART.<p>If you work on the Peninsula, there's Caltrain for getting around. And you can take BART as far as Millbrae. Some companies (notably Genentech) have shuttles that take people from the big transit stations to work, but YMMV.<p>Beware "The Oracle Mile". It's 1 mile North and South of Ralston Ave. on US-101. It is a parking lot every weekday between 8am and 9:30am. Evening commute also. I know some people have different experiences, but that's been what I run into most often.<p>Generally, in the Bay Area (at least West Bay), either get to work before 8 or after 10. Otherwise you'll be spending a lot of time with all your other happy morning commuters. :P<p>Places to live? If you can take the rent, the Peninsula is nice. Half Moon Bay is on the coast and works well if your work is close to the 92 freeway.<p>I wasn't a fan of living in Pacifica, but some people are. Not much to do there as it's mainly a commuter town.<p>Just my 2c.
j_baker超过 14 年前
I live in the mission and pay $1850/month for rent. One nice thing about living in the city is that utilities are pretty cheap. I pay about $100/month for everything. In Texas, electricity was at least twice that. Plus food isn't terribly expensive nor is transportation. In short, rent is terrible, but if you can make that, SF isn't too bad a place to live.
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URSpider94超过 14 年前
Just to ad a different perspective from a lot of the people on the list, family housing in Silicon Valley is MUCH more expensive than probably anywhere else in the country.<p>I just moved out here in August, from Boston. We left behind a decent house in a nice suburb with good schools, for which we paid a little under $600,000. When I bought that home a few years ago, it seemed incredibly expensive. Out here, a comparable property in the heart of Silicon Valley will run you at least $1 million, if not $1.3.
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whyenot超过 14 年前
I'd try and avoid San Francisco. Yes,it's beautiful, and if you know the muni public transportation system you can get around easily without a car, but rents can be high (like $1300 for a studio apartment that isn't scummy). I'd look in Mountain View or Sunnyvale. If keeping costs low is very important, the northern part of San Jose probably has the lowest rents ($800-900 for a large studio / one bedroom appt) for an area near Silicon Valley. Palo Alto and areas north can be quite pricey.
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bkhl超过 14 年前
It all depends where you live. If you would like to live in the city (San Francisco), one bedroom or studio can go up as much as $2000 per month. If you are considering to move around Palo Alto/Mountain View, the rent becomes around 12-1500s. If you are considering Sunnyvale/San Jose, the rent becomes 1000ish.<p>If you are going to work at Mountain View/Palo Alto area, I highly recommend to live in Sunnyvale, because the rent isn't as expensive and it's not too far (5-15min drive on 101).
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Mz超过 14 年前
I used to live in Solano County, which is the cheap seats of the SF Bay Area. It is still the most expensive place I have ever lived but was a good bit cheaper than most of the rest of the Bay Area. There are more than 100 cities in the SFBA, so there is some flexibility on how expensive it is. You might try checking out bestplaces.net and city-data.com to get a better idea.
Tyrant505超过 14 年前
Not sure why this data fact is absent in every single comment but: How much for a pint of beer? Six pack? (kind?)
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usaar333超过 14 年前
For pure rent, in Sunnyvale, I had a 3 bedroom house with $1900/month rent. I had the smallest room - and with 4 guys there - my rent hovered around $400. Utilities were pretty trivial ($20 month avg per person). I had a car, but could have lived with just a bike if money was an issue.
teuobk超过 14 年前
I lived for about a year in Palo Alto near El Camino and Page Mill. I had a 2-bedroom apartment (1050 sq ft) for which the rent was $1800. I split it with a roommate to bring the cost down to $900 for each of us. Utilities were another $100 per month or so, total.
Mrdev4超过 14 年前
I don't recommend San Jose, It took me a hour to get to Mountain View by car and longer by public transportation.I recommend Santa Clara.
kentbrew超过 14 年前
Don't forget to look in East Palo Alto, which isn't nearly as scary as people make it out to be.
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suliamansaleh超过 14 年前
are thier a lot of english(uk) people in silcon valley?
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