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Apple Used to Be an Inventor. Now It’s Mainly a Landlord

298 点作者 rayvy超过 6 年前

45 条评论

reacharavindh超过 6 年前
May be people are disappointed with innovation in iPhones compared to previous years&#x27; or for the last few years, but every time I use my AirPods, I can&#x27;t but feel good about the innovation it took to make it as easy to use and comfortable.<p>* If I open the case near my phone, it automatically pairs and shoes battery levels.<p>* They sound decent for earbuds (not in-ear plugs which I hate)<p>* Lasts reasonable amount of time on its battery and quickly charges while in case.<p>I could not get this experience ever before and honestly, even after I have had it for a year. I don&#x27;t know of a better competition to it.<p>But, letting the Mac lineup vanquish with old internals for years and gouging prices on soldered SSDs and memory - no excuse, that&#x27;s just shitty.
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Wavelets超过 6 年前
What a silly article. How someone could look at Apple&#x27;s chip developments (A, T, S, W, etc. series of processors) and think they aren&#x27;t innovative is mind-boggling. Apple developing key silicon in their devices is a major security benefit for their users and I consider that an innovative model.<p>The Apple ecosystem itself is innovative and I don&#x27;t think there&#x27;s a single company that does it better.<p>They still lead in interfaces (biometrics...FaceID) and multi-touch gestures.<p>I don&#x27;t use Siri, but I&#x27;m glad they are developing that technology in a way that doesn&#x27;t flat-out violate the privacy of their users. I just hope all the criticism comparing Siri versus Google Assistant and Cortana don&#x27;t push them to change that posture.<p>It feels like Apple hate is becoming a meme. You can certainly criticize the company... their product line is becoming confusing, but to say they &quot;used&quot; to be an innovator is ignorant.
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bloorp超过 6 年前
Two months ago, Apple announced an ECG sensor for your wrist. A year before that, they announced face detection for the purposes of identity with enough accuracy that it can be used for financial transactions. Also, AirPods are incredible. I&#x27;m not saying Apple has a monopoly on invention, but to say they &#x27;used to be an inventor&#x27;? That&#x27;s weird.
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ForrestN超过 6 年前
It&#x27;s embarrassing that this doesn&#x27;t include a massive, bold-faced disclaimer above the headline.<p>Bloomberg is in the midst of a credibility-destroying fight with Apple over a sensational story that no other journalists can corroborate. Bloomberg has dug in, staking their reputation on Apple being wrong.<p>Seemingly in response Bloomberg... publishes a hand-wavy piece of cultural criticism about the meaning of Apple doing iterative design?
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raverbashing超过 6 年前
Do you know what really worries me about Apple now?<p>So, when SJ came back to Apple, he reorganized their (then at the time) computer lines into more streamlined ones. Something like (I might get some of the names wrong), into consumer&#x2F;pro and portable&#x2F;desktop<p>iBook&#x2F;Powerbook, iMac&#x2F;Powermac<p>Now look at their line now<p>What the F is an iPhone XR? Is the XS &quot;better&quot; than the X or not? Why are there 2 iPad Pros? Is an iPad 4 better than an iPad? Which one is which?<p>Not to mention the dongles, USB-C mess, etc
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techsocial超过 6 年前
I like this part:<p>Apple is milking its essentially captive audience. I hesitate to call it “loyal” — these are, essentially, people who look with trepidation at the idea of moving years of photos and other data to a different system.<p>My wife gnashed her teeth when she got one of the new, wildly overpriced iPhones — but she just can’t imagine switching to Android.
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matthewmacleod超过 6 年前
I’m not really sure I buy the premise - Apple has never been much of an inventor, instead being more of a “competent executor”. It’s true that Apple is likely to continue to increase its service offerings, but I don’t think that fundamentally changes the nature of the company. Since Apple has historically focused on executing extant ideas well, it’s quite possible that we won’t see any massive new markets until we know what the next “hot new tech” will be. AR maybe?
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philwelch超过 6 年前
Steve Jobs was, among many other things, both good and bad, an irreplaceable human being. The Apple that created the Apple II, Macintosh, iPod, and iPhone isn&#x27;t coming back.<p>That having been said, of the two post-Steve Jobs Apples that we&#x27;ve seen, this one is still pretty damn decent. They aren&#x27;t killing the entire company by throwing all their software engineering resources at a Second System Effect technical quagmire like Copland, they aren&#x27;t selling laptops that spontaneously burst into flames like the PowerBook 5300, and they aren&#x27;t investing in solutions in search of a problem like OpenDoc. They also aren&#x27;t selling dozens of indistinguishable products that are only distinguishable by arbitrary four-digit product numbers.
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mjfl超过 6 年前
Apple used to be a slave to the gods of productivity. Now it&#x27;s living its best life using the 4 hour work week strategy!
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gmiller123456超过 6 年前
I wish I could say Android was different. Yea, Google and Samsung et. al. do make a lot of other products, so their entire business model isn&#x27;t the same as Apple. But in the phone market, customers don&#x27;t have all that much choice regardless of who they pick. I&#x27;m an Apple hater myself, but I fear the day Apple finally goes away.
ChuckMcM超过 6 年前
My particular pain point here is Apple music. I&#x27;ve got gigabytes of music that I&#x27;ve curated over the years, and had on iPods, then on my iPad. But Music has gone from a library first approach to a store first approach, it is getting pretty difficult to keep a set of tunes physically on your device. That makes me sad.
Tycho超过 6 年前
Pretty amusing to read this on <i>Bloomberg</i> of all places. Practically the definition of innovator turned rent-seeker. One of the most entrenched incumbents in technology.
acomjean超过 6 年前
I thought this was interesting. Although its charging for services, it fits in apples slightly more privacy focused business model.<p>&quot;Rent extraction from a user base that finds it hard to go away may sound a bit like extortion. But it’s more honest and upfront than extracting data from users in ways they often don’t understand and then making money off the data, as Facebook does. That honesty is in itself a competitive advantage for Apple as it gradually reimagines itself as more of a services company.&quot;
askafriend超过 6 年前
I think people in the mainstream media and even most people period just don&#x27;t understand innovation cycles. They expect novelty every year, but they don&#x27;t realize that revolutions are created by consistently great evolution over a long period of time.<p>We&#x27;re nearing the top of the S curve with regards to the smartphone business. Upgrade cycles are getting longer. Phones are getting as powerful as laptops and people are finding them good enough for most things, for longer periods of time.<p>You can&#x27;t expect the same level of novelty and change every single year. This headline also under-appreciates just how much the world has changed in the past 10 years because of the smartphone. Everything is wildly different and even as I type this, it&#x27;s really hard to have perspective about just how significant the changes have been especially since we experience them incrementally. 10 years isn&#x27;t even that long of a time period.<p>It&#x27;s all about the ecosystem and services now. Companies are investing deeply into integrated bundles of services and ecosystem add-ons (HomePod, Watch, Apple Music, iCloud etc) with the smartphone sitting at the center tying everything together.<p>Each piece might not be the iPhone in terms of size, but that&#x27;s unrealistic. The iPhone is probably one of the greatest single business lines of all time. That type of step function product doesn&#x27;t come along every year let alone every decade.<p>It&#x27;s not about any single product anymore. It&#x27;s about integrating technology deep into your life with the smartphone at the center (or in Amazon&#x27;s case, Alexa since they missed the Smartphone era).<p>Ecosystems are inventions in their own. How they grow matter. What values they espouse matter. Focusing on the individual parts instead of how the pieces tie together to make a powerful whole is missing the forest for the trees.<p>Apple also isn&#x27;t the same company they were in 2007. Just look at the iPhone install base growth: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.valuewalk.com&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;2015&#x2F;12&#x2F;Screenshot_3-4.png" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.valuewalk.com&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;2015&#x2F;12&#x2F;Screens...</a><p>That&#x27;s just iPhone. If you count all iOS devices (iPad, iPod Touch, etc), they&#x27;re <i>well over</i> a billion users globally. They serve more customers, in more countries, with more preferences than ever before in the company&#x27;s history. If you&#x27;re expecting the company to move the same way they did when they were barely international and had a tiny fraction of the operations and customers they have today, then that&#x27;s also unrealistic.<p>Look at complex multinational products like Apple Pay and how difficult it is for <i>anyone</i> to deliver a service like that seamlessly in every country in the world (even Apple hasn&#x27;t launched it everywhere). Services like that require multi-year planning, complex dealmaking, geopolitical factors, operational risk, complex financial operations, etc. Things like Apple Pay are severely under-appreciated because it doesn&#x27;t make for a good headline and it doesn&#x27;t make for a fun product review on The Verge or YouTube.<p>If Apple can make iPhone your only wallet and convince banking partners and retailer around the world to accept Apple Pay AND do it in a way that respects the privacy of every transaction. THAT is innovation. THAT is magical. But that is also hard to appreciate and it will happen incrementally over the years. We&#x27;ll take it for granted, move on, and demand more.<p>As Bezos said in his previous shareholder letter: &quot;Customers are divinely discontent&quot;
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adamrezich超过 6 年前
You could say the same or similar things about other companies with similar business models today who rose to prominence because of repeated innovation yet have since become seemingly stagnant: Google, Valve, ...
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Nokinside超过 6 年前
This partially explains why Berkshire Hathaway is now largest stock holder in Apple. They prefer companies with &#x27;moat&#x27;. Ability to innovate is unpredictable.
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redwyvern超过 6 年前
I&#x27;ve learned that some of Bloomberg&#x27;s journalism is bullshit, and this article helps me stand by my opinion.<p>FaceID? ECG monitor? AirPods and the general continuity between Apple products? Seems like Bloomberg is just an attention whore. I can see an argument for the Apple customer market becoming saturated, but Apple has not lost its inventiveness.<p>The idea of becoming a landlord who is unable to bring in new people with exciting technology is only true if you consider
Confusion超过 6 年前
Meanwhile geeks are marvelling at the speed improvements of their latest SoC&#x27;s over the previous generation and over their competitors.
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georgeecollins超过 6 年前
This is completely unfair! It is not that the pace of innovation at Apple has slowed down, it is that the success of their innovative products is dwarfed by their legacy business. The Apple watch would be a game changer in terms of revenue for Apple circa 2003 (when it was presumably innovative). It is still an excellent and innovative product, like AirPods.
aibrahem超过 6 年前
Apple always seemed to have had four things going for them; Product Innovation, Developing extremely high-quality HW and SW with attention to both details and user experience, a world-class supply chain and finally a technological edge.<p>I would argue that under Steve Jobs both the supply chain and the technological edge had some focus but there wasn&#x27;t a huge gap with the competition, This could be either because it required time to achieve this gap and Steve simply wasn&#x27;t at the helm for that long or it wasn&#x27;t his main focus and is currently the focus of Tim Cook considering his background, either way, I think Apple is currently and going to continue to blow everyone out of the water with technologies like their SOC&#x27;s and will continue having the most efficient supply chain and manufacturing capacity in the world churning out products that beat the industry margins by a mile.<p>Regarding the quality, design and user experience it mostly stagnated, don&#x27;t get me wrong they&#x27;re still way higher than the industry average and I can see Johnny Ives touch in most of their products, but I don’t see the kind of passion that went into designing the interface of a device like the iPhone with ideas like pinch to zoom and the spring effect. Apple seems to have a design team that is world class but uninspired and just doing their job.<p>Now the most important point and this is what I honestly believe is the problem with Apple is the Product Innovation, this appears to have completely stopped after Steve, I try not to believe that Steve Jobs was THE product manager at Apple and avoid the cult of personality, but it&#x27;s very hard to shake this idea when during his tenure they&#x27;ve released multiple industry-changing products, and they&#x27;ve failed to release a single one after he left.<p>I think Apple is going to continue to release high-quality, well designed, cutting edge and high margin products, but I highly doubt with the current leadership they&#x27;ll be able to release a single new product that changes the status quo like Steve used to.
coldtea超过 6 年前
Yeah, the kind of landlord that designs its own CPUs, GPUs and co-processors, has its own language (Swift), solves several difficult engineering problems with every new product, and so on.<p>Meanwhile, since I was watching Apple in 2000-2007, when they &quot;used to be an inventor&quot;, they used to put out barely incremental updated for the iPod, the OS, and Mac laptops every year.<p>People would circulate rumors for months, and then cheer, for tiny generational spec updates on iPods. Now we get 10x the technological change we got every year of that era between iPhone models, and people are blaze about it.<p>Also, Google aside (and them only on the software assistant side) who solves any interesting consumer problems in the space Apple works?
mothsonasloth超过 6 年前
Its sad state of affairs that companies are tying and locking down their hardware to specific software:<p>You cant modify the new Xboxes or Playstations.<p>Some Android phones are dependant on the manufacturers customised version of the AOSP.<p>On Macs it is not easy to install another operating system, like you can do with a PC (although I have managed to get Ubuntu 18.10 running on my Macbook Pro 13,1)<p>Consumers are going to be really challenged at some point and think, &quot;hey, I have very little control over this thing I bought. Am I ok with this or am I going to start hacking?&quot;<p>We could see another renaissance like you had in the early 80s with hackers sharing and porting software onto the weird and wonderful computers they were building back then.... who knows?
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amelius超过 6 年前
Why don&#x27;t we all steer towards the IBM PC clone model, but for smartphones? Why do we have free&#x2F;open Linux on PCs and not on phones?<p>By the way, ironically, with its single user OS, an iPhone is more a &quot;Personal Computer&quot; than most PCs.
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CM30超过 6 年前
Sounds like a good description of Valve after Steam too. Used to focus on products and invent new series, now mostly cashes in on services and microtransactions relating to its older works.<p>Wonder if this is a trend, especially for larger companies.
Nokinside超过 6 年前
This is partly the reason why Berkshire Hathaway is now the largest owner of Apple stock. They believe that Apple has a &#x27;moat&#x27; they can use to defend their position. It think they are correct.<p>What can always happen is that they fail to see change coming and drop the ball like Nokia did. They had incredible moat in multiple areas: manufacturing, supply chain, technology and scale. They were able to produce high quality phones with the same cost as cheap brands and pocketed the difference in profits but they didn&#x27;t see the revolution coming.<p>The future of Apple&#x27;s growth is pivot to services and rent from platform.
kerng超过 6 年前
Apples product line is not understandable anymore, it used to be simple but now there are too many dubious options and weird branding.<p>Even Microsoft&#x27;s Surface line (which is a similar mess) is easier to comprehend now.
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ProfessorLayton超过 6 年前
The most unfortunate part for me is that Apple&#x27;s service apps like Apple Music are pretty awful to use. Their stock Music app on iOS takes far too many taps to do anything, is buggy, and overall not a great experience.<p>The same is true on my MacBook, the only way for me to use Apple Music is through iTunes, a complete dumpster fire of an app on OSX. Apple Music is an otherwise fantastic service, but it is hobbled by terrible UX.
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baxtr超过 6 年前
What&#x27;s the point here?<p>- There were mp3 files and player long before the first iPod<p>- Before the iPhone there were other smartphones<p>- Before the iPad there were other tablets<p>- Don&#x27;t get me started on the Watch...<p>Apple was <i>never</i> an Inventor. Everything they&#x27;ve ever created was built around a technology or even products that existed before. Apple &quot;just&quot; gets the user experience right and and builds products that most people find accessible, easy to use, and reliable.
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talltimtom超过 6 年前
People keep complaining that Apple isn’t bringing the next iPod, iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch level innovation, but honestly no one is pushing them so why should they? As far as moving markets they’ve done enough to coast a bit. Noone is complaining that companies like Ford and Toyota are “just making new cars instead og innovativt”
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mikestew超过 6 年前
Yeah, that&#x27;s a click-baity headline; but they&#x27;re not wrong. There&#x27;s a shift from the &quot;line up at dawn for the new Apple Dingus&quot; to an arguably more stable &quot;tic-toc&quot; upgrade cycle, with hopefully some Apple Music and iCloud subscriptions thrown in. That&#x27;s where I&#x27;m at right now. Both of us are still on iPhone 6s. I have an iPad from last year that I expect to last a few more. Hers is the generation prior, and will get replaced when iOS no longer supports it (or I upgrade). Newest Mac is from 2012. Now, part of it is &quot;good enough&quot;. The new phones aren&#x27;t so outstanding as to warrant an upgrade, the 6s does the jobs we need just fine. Part of it is &quot;there&#x27;s nothing to buy&quot;; see: laptops. But Apple still gets money for Apple Music, iCloud, and whatever we get off iTunes.<p>But as for the click-bait headline, we both just bought our first Apple Watches, the Series 4. Strap one of those puppies on your wrist for a day and talk to me about &quot;used to be an inventor&quot;. (Side note: AAPL might not have sold us phones for a while, but they <i>did</i> &quot;invent&quot; a watch that we&#x27;d buy. They still got our hardware money.)
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dano超过 6 年前
This morning I watched two non-technical Apple users be amazed by something automatic - WiFi credential sharing.<p>User 1 wanted to connect her MacBook Pro to the Wifi. User 2 picked up her phone and was prompted to share her WiFi credentials with the MacBook - it was almost like magic and it worked.
camdenlock超过 6 年前
How utterly embarrassing for Bloomberg. My respect for them has plummeted recently.
GiorgioG超过 6 年前
My issue with Apple is they continue to hold product launch events as if they&#x27;ve invented a new class of product(s), when they are incremental changes at best (with the exception of the ECG on the Apple Watch.) With the resources Apple has, they should be taking more risks. Tim has basically turned Apple into a boring incremental product company...like a traditional car company. New model year, this model is the best we&#x27;ve ever made...sure, fine but don&#x27;t pretend that you&#x27;ve created something groundbreaking at every launch event.
ilovecaching超过 6 年前
Eh... I mean Google&#x27;s entire business model is to essentially rent you out services in exchange for your personal information.<p>Also, I contend that Apple&#x27;s &quot;invention&quot; has been to repackage computing in a premium package. Smart phones, music players, tablets all existed before Steve flashed them on stage, he just made you want to use them by making them sexy and cool, which wasn&#x27;t that hard, because the early days of computing is about as unsexy as it gets.
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xiphias2超过 6 年前
I look at Tesla as the next Apple. There&#x27;s not much room for fast innovation in the smart phone space, but cars are outdated, and self driving &#x2F; electric cars with better robotic manufacturing methods give an opportunity for new entrants to appear. It&#x27;s too late for Apple though at this point to manufacture the full hardware (and also behind Waymo in self driving software).
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Jerry2超过 6 年前
Is this article the payback for Cook asking the Bloomberg to retract that Supermicro story?
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jiveturkey超过 6 年前
Admittedly I&#x27;m not even going to read the article to see if the headline is just clickbait. The premise is absurd. Apple still sets the bar for innovation. The fact that it is also incredibly good at monetizing its efforts does not take away from that fact.
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robbiet480超过 6 年前
Just like McDonalds... <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.wallstreetsurvivor.com&#x2F;2015&#x2F;10&#x2F;08&#x2F;mcdonalds-beyond-the-burger&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.wallstreetsurvivor.com&#x2F;2015&#x2F;10&#x2F;08&#x2F;mcdonalds-beyo...</a>
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pl0x超过 6 年前
Apple has botched the Mac lineup and is becoming anti-consumer. I&#x27;ve been a Mac users since the 80&#x27;s and this is a very different Apple today.
berbec超过 6 年前
This draws parallels to Valve, for me.
ronreiter超过 6 年前
Same narrative since Jobs died. And yet, their stock keeps skyrocketing.
nil_pointer超过 6 年前
Steve Jobs was Apple&#x27;s inventor. They&#x27;ve been trying to emulate him since his passing, which is showing obviously to not be the same thing.
eruci超过 6 年前
Apple died with Steve Jobs. No new products just same shit with double and triple price. Shrinking customer base due to overpricing is the death of any company and utter betrayal of Jobs vision.
Bjorkbat超过 6 年前
From the comments I see a lot of people are confused by the headline. Apple still invents, but only for the sake of improving existing products, and not really in a way that makes you imagine what you can do, thus it&#x27;s not the type of invention that matters.<p>There, I said it.<p>I made the mistake of buying a Macbook with a touch bar because I thought it was kind of cool when I finally got to see it in person. The novelty that came from this cheap gimmick wore off in a matter of minutes, even though the technical obstacles that had to be overcome must&#x27;ve been great.<p>The face-tracking cameras in the latest iPhones and iPads? Impressive on their own, but Apple has failed to do anything really fascinating with them besides using them to unlock your device or to puppet an emoji.<p>Apple invents only for the sake of creating additional cheap gimmicks without creating genuinely exciting products. As I fumble with the awful keyboard on my Macbook I question just how capable they are of even creating quality products.
solidrake超过 6 年前
What has Apple invented? As far as I&#x27;m aware, they have patents of re-purposing other inventions, or design patents. But cannot think of anything they &quot;invented&quot; that didn&#x27;t already exist before.
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