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Microsoft Beats Amazon in 12-Month Cloud Revenue

266 点作者 samaysharma超过 6 年前

15 条评论

code4tee超过 6 年前
These numbers are very misleading considering they wrap up things like Office into “cloud revenue.” When talking about compute cloud they are still way behind Amazon although you don’t get that from the misleading headline.
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lleims超过 6 年前
Ben Thompson of Stratechery precisely wrote about this last week:<p>&gt;Given this week’s theme, though, I wanted to focus on AWS: revenue was up 46%, and while that may be lower than Azure in percentage terms, it is almost certainly higher in absolute terms. AWS had $6.7 billion in revenue last quarter, while Microsoft’s entire Server Products and Cloud Services — the majority of which remains on-premises — was $5.7 billion. Microsoft of course has other cloud revenue, including Office 365 and Dynamics 365; those are SaaS products though and generally don’t compete with AWS.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;stratechery.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;ibm-red-hat-follow-up-microsofts-earnings-amazons-earnings&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;stratechery.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;ibm-red-hat-follow-up-microsoft...</a>
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xchaotic超过 6 年前
Very anectodal, but some things are better on Azure, because they were late to the party, for example azure blob storage. It costs the same as s3, but it supports journaling, so you can do journal archives. You can run your main thing on aws and keep backups on azure. If you wanted backups with journaling on AWS, you&#x27;d have to use EFS at minimum, which is orders of magnitude more expensive.
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alexeldeib超过 6 年前
These numbers are so misleading. I understand why they are the numbers published, but AWS vs Azure last time I heard real numbers was approximately a 3:1 market share ratio.<p>Including Office 365, Dynamics, etc doesn&#x27;t make sense to me. We don&#x27;t include Prime in Amazon Cloud, AFAIK.
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JeromeLon超过 6 年前
According to Gartner (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gartner.com&#x2F;newsroom&#x2F;id&#x2F;3884500" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gartner.com&#x2F;newsroom&#x2F;id&#x2F;3884500</a>), the 2017 revenues were:<p>Amazon: 12.2B<p>Microsoft: 3.1B<p>Assuming Amazon continues on the same 25% YoY trend, it would be 15B in 2018. Microsoft could beat that number by reaching a 400% growth rate. That would be pretty amazing. But it&#x27;s not the case.
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simonebrunozzi超过 6 年前
(disclaimer: I was at AWS from 2008 to 2014, and VMware from 2014 to 2016)<p>Microsoft have been playing this game for years now. It&#x27;s a joke.<p>Anybody with just a little sense of how the industry works knows that AWS still leads the market with 80% to 90% penetration.<p>Microsoft should be punished for misleading the public this way. And some analysts should be fired for not knowing better.
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MrTonyD超过 6 年前
I work for a company that sells software which is often deployed in the cloud. I&#x27;d say the ratio is about 30 to 1, with AWS far ahead. I&#x27;m always surprised when somebody starts talking about Azure - they usually work for a company where some executive was talked into Azure by Microsoft.
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boulos超过 6 年前
Disclosure: I work on Google Cloud.<p>There are arguments on both sides about &quot;Should Office count as Cloud revenue?&quot;. We have the same decision regarding GSuite. If you take the &quot;Cloud is anything a business depends on&quot; argument, then it obviously should count (but then all sorts of things like SaaS would count).<p>I like to think of this from an investor&#x27;s standpoint: what do they really want to know? In <i>my</i> estimation, they want to know about potential hyper-growth market opportunities for the company.<p>For Microsoft, more than anyone else, <i>Office</i> isn&#x27;t a high growth opportunity. There is some amount of revenue uplift from customers &quot;upgrading&quot; from Office on prem to Office 365 (like Adobe when they forced Creative Suite to be subscription) but I doubt there are going to be lots of net new customers just because Office is on a subscription model. By contrast, Cloud <i>infrastructure</i> is a large opportunity for Microsoft.<p>For Google (and to some degree AWS), &quot;productivity suites&quot; is actually a reasonable growth market, particularly as market share often comes from Office. However, the raw productivity market is still &quot;only&quot; $XXB (it&#x27;s predominantly $X&#x2F;seat, and there are only so many employees in the world) while people talking about &quot;cloud&quot; usually are talking about the opportunity being &quot;all money spent on IT&quot;.<p>tl;dr: I watch the YoY &quot;Azure growth was XX%&quot; numbers and ignore the headline revenue.
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Upvoter33超过 6 年前
Microsoft trying to win the PR battle...
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theDoug超过 6 年前
Am I reading correctly that they&#x27;re including LinkedIn as Cloud revenue?
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leroman超过 6 年前
I came to the comments fully expecting first comment to show false advertising. This is what I come to expect from Microsoft, I just don&#x27;t trust anything coming from their PR department. This can&#x27;t be good for Microsoft.
ironfootnz超过 6 年前
You can now scale excel in the cloud.
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h1d超过 6 年前
Azure interface is such a crazy mess I don&#x27;t know how prople live with it.<p>It&#x27;s so MS with 50 menus with uninteresting options intertwined and error messages usually make no sense, just like Windows.<p>I&#x27;ve even chosen to use another provider for running Windows, even though running it on MS feels more safe.<p>I&#x27;ll never want to work for a company with pure MS stack.
bradhe超过 6 年前
Cloud revenue numbers are database benchmarks for 2018
tanilama超过 6 年前
Oh, that Forbes author once again...