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Facial recognition system risks 'chilling effect' on freedoms, rights groups say

106 点作者 ricardoreis超过 6 年前

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marchenko超过 6 年前
Imagine this capability existed in the US before miscegenation, or same-sex intercourse, or cannabis use, or concealed carry, were legal/broadly accepted. It could be used to harass non-criminal supporters of these measures(caught a SSM proponent jaywalking!) and prosecute those engaged in the target criminalized activity, preventing movements to legalize these activities from ever gaining momentum. Social mores would become ossified. Perfect prosecution is not desirable in an imperfect world.
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module0000超过 6 年前
Sounds great! And us, the public, will have access to this as well.....right? Can we watch a live-map of police and other state-employed persons with a positive facial match as they move about? No? Why not? Well that's how we feel too.
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netcan超过 6 年前
This stuff is a ratchet. You can win a battle here and there, maybe slowing the progress, but the long term trend is one directional.<p>The way privacy norms and abstract rules about limiting power come about is *not&quot; through gradualism. It&#x27;s through hurdled events. The american revolution. The 1989 revolutions. Particular points in time where you can say &quot;Stazi bad. Never again.&quot;<p>The reality is that these chouces involve compromising security. Slightly freer, and slightly less safe is not a winning political argument.<p>Imagine a system where detectives can plug it back a name or a face and retrieve location information from that person&#x27;s phone, city-wide CCTV video, etc.<p>Creeoy, but more crimes will be solved.<p>Gradualism favours security over freedom in the long term. There are 19 rapists walking free in our city today, because limits on police power.... There&#x27;s only one way this argument goes.
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JoeAltmaier超过 6 年前
In the medieval days of villages, everybody knew everyone&#x27;s face. There was little in the way of privacy.<p>Today we expect a certain level of anonymity, but mostly just because we&#x27;ve grown up with it. It&#x27;s not been normal through history. It may not even be healthy (to live in a society alone and unknown).<p>I don&#x27;t think its the end of the world. It won&#x27;t even be the end of privacy. Social privacy is mostly pretending in public not to know what you shouldn&#x27;t know. Nobody &#x27;hears&#x27; what goes on behind the bathroom door in their home, because its the height of rudeness to mention it.<p>We&#x27;ll have to come up with social norms to not know what everybody is doing every place in public. Not knowing who went to what private clubs, or who visited whom&#x27;s house after dark when their spouse wasn&#x27;t home and so on. Unless we saw it in person of course!
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newscracker超过 6 年前
&gt; <i>There are also fears about the level of access given to private corporations and the legislation’s loose wording, which could allow it to be used for purposes other than related to terrorism or serious crime.</i><p>Truth is, it <i>will be</i> used for purposes other than related to terrorism or serious crime. It’s alarming how democratic countries are invading the privacy of their own citizens, creating mass surveillance machinery that could become uncontrollably detrimental to the very institutions and structures that they claim to value and protect. Among the FIVE EYES countries, Australia seems to be doing a lot more (comparatively) on mass surveillance and having the legislative backing for it.<p>&gt; <i>The database will be accessible to federal, state and territory governments through a central hub connecting the various photographic identity databases.</i><p>This is how it starts, with vague claims of safeguards that belie the actual access and how they can (and will be) misused.<p>It seems like future generations will have to give up freedom to get some sense of safety (as painted by those in power).
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Theodores超过 6 年前
If you want to experience the &#x27;chilling effect&#x27; of facial recognition first hand, go to a meaningful political protest in the UK. These are different to the circus-and-bread protests, e.g. complaining about Trump in some collective Pinch and Judy show.<p>With the more useful protest events numbers are smaller and those that attend aren&#x27;t there just to post selfies of themselves looking good protesting at the bogeyman-du-jour on Instagram. Protesting against the arms trade or fracking will be getting yourself proper attention from the authorities. The police have the one tactic called &#x27;the kettle&#x27; where they form a police line around all the protesters, then letting them out, one by one, getting everyone&#x27;s photo. From then on you know that you will be in some special rogue&#x27;s gallery, to be denied being able to work for the three letter agencies and other places in the civil service due to being a known troublemaker. They don&#x27;t need to take your postcode or DNA, just that waltz past the camera will do. As you can imagine this has a &#x27;chilling effect&#x27; and curbs one&#x27; enthusiasm for wanting to participate in the direct democracy that is so encouraged by our governments just so long as it is part of the &#x27;Arab Spring&#x27; or other such nonsense.<p>Facial recognition for cows on the farm, that is a thing and also has applications for other areas, e.g. nature conservation, so there is nothing wrong with it for other species, putting them under mass surveillance and not needing the physical tags.
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amelius超过 6 年前
A face is like a cookie, so if there are laws against cookies, there should be laws against facial recognition.
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captainbland超过 6 年前
I think this is probably only the tip of the iceberg as well - facial recognition is one thing, although it can be difficult if your face is obscured somehow. The real fun will begin when they can start doing things like gait recognition + other features for person re-id in real-time across CCTV networks. Fortunately I think we&#x27;re some way off doing that reliably and with a reasonable cost.
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xfitm3超过 6 年前
Further evidence which suggests privacy will soon be a luxury reserved only for distinguished individuals.