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Facebook chooses Canada for Dating feature launch

120 点作者 Futurebot超过 6 年前

23 条评论

Spivak超过 6 年前
Let&#x27;s put aside the &quot;Facebook is evil and therefore everything they do is evil&quot; tangents for a minute since if you&#x27;re in that boat then its hard to have a useful discussion about this specific feature. And I want to talk about the details of Dating.<p>Facebook is exactly the right company to pull this off in a way that actually changes the &#x27;industry&#x27;. I really want this to be successful and as good as I hope it can be.<p>* Dating apps live and die by their userbase so we&#x27;re already doing pretty good there.<p>* Using the social graph for matches is <i>brilliant</i> since its actually how people IRL do it and you have a built in endorsement system with mutual friends. Having what amounts to an audit trail of &quot;I know this guy, he&#x27;s cool&quot; gives me a lot more confidence that I&#x27;m not getting into trouble.<p>* More than any other dating platform they have the tools to combat bots and fakes at scale.<p>* Strongly connecting dating with IRL identity is basically mandatory for safety.<p>* Facebook has huge potential to make dating safer by knowing when you&#x27;re together detecting suspicious activity. Integrating their crisis response system would be a game changer.<p>* Dating apps necessarily collect a lot of user information, there isn&#x27;t much way around it, and for all their faults Facebook has way more experience than anyone else in protecting it.<p>* Good on them for removing picture messages, I can&#x27;t say I&#x27;m ever happy to receive unsolicited dick pics.
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scottlocklin超过 6 年前
Internet dating is one of those businesses that superficially seems like it makes sense; aka &quot;hey, let&#x27;s use data and statistics to fix people up&quot; -but ultimately couldn&#x27;t possibly work to the benefit of the people it purports to fix up. Two main reasons.<p>1) Histocompatibility -some people smell right. Some people don&#x27;t. Chemistry isn&#x27;t something you&#x27;re gonna capture over the internet, even if you enjoy the online bantz and have tons of stuff in common. Barring breakthroughs in genetics and even more privacy invasions, the FBs of the world can&#x27;t help here.<p>2) Principal agent problem: for all payment techniques thus explored for online dating, the interests of the dating service are not in alignment with daters who want a monogamous LTR. Dating apps who collect monthly fees want to continue to collect monthly fees. Dating apps that rely on advertising want continued obsessive engagement. Alignment of interests would look something like an old school matchmaker who only gets paid if they succeed in making a match -you&#x27;re not going to pull this off with an app. Facebook, of course wants to keep you on their platform.<p>The statistics, of course, back all this up, for example: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.psychologytoday.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;blog&#x2F;the-mating-game&#x2F;201609&#x2F;the-ugly-truth-about-online-dating" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.psychologytoday.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;blog&#x2F;the-mating-game&#x2F;2016...</a>
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dvtrn超过 6 年前
<i>The offering will support text-only conversations between matches in an effort to minimize &quot;casual encounters&quot; by building long-term relationships instead</i><p>What&#x27;s to prevent two people from having similar interests and deciding they actually only <i>want</i> a casual encounter? Would that be against terms of using the feature?<p>I&#x27;m sure fb is probably just trying to absolve themselves of the chances someone will hook up with a child on the platform but there&#x27;s probably better ways, already built into the site, no?<p>I guess I&#x27;m just wondering why Facebook cares if someone just wants a non committed hookup partner or not. Why do they want even want the burden of adjudicating completely normal dating and sexual choices?
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dgzl超过 6 年前
I&#x27;m speaking as a long term and paid user of both Tinder and OKC. Online dating is complete garbage and I feel regret every time I open the services. The fact that Facebook is joining the game makes my stomach churn.
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gaius超过 6 年前
I am happily married now (and haven’t used FB in a year) but this strikes me as a terrible idea. Why would you want dating and current and previous partners integrated with the entire rest of your social life? This just has drama written all over it. Then again it’s good for engagement I guess.
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cschmidt超过 6 年前
This is kind orthogonal to comments about the FB dating features, but my company chose to launch a major feature this week in Canada as well. I guess it is the natural choice as: 1) it is English speaking, so it is easier for our English speaking employees to diagnose, 2) it is small enough that the traffic won&#x27;t be too much, 3) roughly the same time zones as our devs so we can be online at the same time.
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devit超过 6 年前
Seems potentially great.<p>The problem with apps like Tinder is that they focus essentially only on your skill at taking photos, posing for them and retouching them and secondarily on your appearance, and obviously photo-taking skills are completely irrelevant and appearance is at best secondary even for one-night stands.<p>Hopefully Facebook can actually deliver matches based more on personality, what someone is looking for and how pleasant a person is in general.
analyst74超过 6 年前
I&#x27;m a little confused, the article mentioned that<p>&gt; The offering will support text-only conversations between matches in an effort to minimize &quot;casual encounters&quot; by building long-term relationships instead<p>But then showed a screenshot similar to Tinder, with pictures and stuff. What exactly is it, text-only or tinder-copy?
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throwapay232超过 6 年前
I&#x27;ve used tinder&#x2F;bumble since their inception, even had 3 long(ish) relationships form. I think the value the apps bring is connecting people who would never meet irl (i.e many degrees of social separation). I don&#x27;t like the idea of only connecting friends of friends, it promotes insular social circles, harder for bigger cities to become open when everyone stays in their cliche. I feel this becoming more of a thing with social media, people are losing the ability to branch out.<p>Like others have already commented, the apps also put females on a pedestal to a ridiculous degree. I&#x27;m (barely) in the range of &quot;top&quot; males and even getting a lot of matches (~10-20 a day), the number of girls who are open and willing to create a genuine connection (on the app) is approaching 1 in 100.
jhanschoo超过 6 年前
I think FB is well-positioned to provide a better online dating experience than specialized online dating platforms. Specialized online dating platforms have a disincentive to cater to people looking for stable relationships, since these people typically stop using the platform once they have found a match. For example, I find that OkCupid&#x27;s redesign last year&#x2F;earlier this year (I forget the exact time interval when) smells of a reorientation towards catering to heavy users of the platform.<p>FB users, on the other hand, probably do not see (or see as much) a decrease in activity if&#x2F;when they enter a stable relationship, and so FB can be more well-aligned with the relationship goals of its users.
Waterluvian超过 6 年前
I don&#x27;t want my friend circles anywhere near my dating. I&#x27;d be terrified to even try, lest Facebook try to optimize some synergy and starts suggesting to girls that I want to go on dates with them.
ravenstine超过 6 年前
&gt; &quot;Arguably folks should be more comfortable with Facebook now given all the scrutiny they have gone through in terms of their recent missteps because everyone is watching everything they have done,&quot;<p>That&#x27;s quite the logic we have here. I feel sorry for anyone who buys it.
greendestiny_re超过 6 年前
Facebook Dating is going to encounter the exact same problem all dating apps do – too many men aggressively soliciting their matches and too few women responding to such solicitations.<p>By the way, did anyone notice the linked CBC article has nearly all paragraphs consisting of a single sentence, two at most?
ohkaiby超过 6 年前
It&#x27;s gonna be interesting to see how existing dating services who use Facebook&#x2F;other social graphs (like Coffee Meets Bagel) will react to this new service.
simlevesque超过 6 年前
How can I enable it ?
xfitm3超过 6 年前
Interesting feature. However, I choose to date people who don&#x27;t use facebook.
LinuxBender超过 6 年前
Isn&#x27;t this what Mark Z. originally created FB for in the first place?
thelastidiot超过 6 年前
Canada is the beta testing country of the USA.
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dbg31415超过 6 年前
The problem is that nobody under 50 still uses Facebook, and all the 50+ dating is handled by eHarmony.<p>Said in jest... but not really.
booleandilemma超过 6 年前
Will LinkedIn follow, I wonder?
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buboard超过 6 年前
This is going to be huge.
linkerzx超过 6 年前
its singles day everywhere! this week!
kache_超过 6 年前
This is a great opportunity for selective breeding of humans. Promote the mating of people who are more susceptible to ads.
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