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Waymo CEO Says Alphabet Unit Plans to Launch Driverless Car Service

376 点作者 sidhanthp超过 6 年前

23 条评论

edoo超过 6 年前
I'm excited. If you have been alive a substantial amount of time you are easily running a lifetime average of about 1-2% chance of dying in a car accident in your lifetime. Things have gotten much safer the past couple decades so that number is somewhere around 0.75% or lower now. I want to say being injured in a car accident is somewhere around 20-30% lifetime chance. Cars are incredibly dangerous and this will save a ton of lives.
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ChuckMcM超过 6 年前
This will be a huge milestone for the Waymo team. I had not thought they would get here until 2025 at least, so I guess I&#x27;m overly cynical these days :-).<p>I hope that a successful launch in Phoenix will expand out to other locales because this capability is a huge win for those groups that would otherwise not be able to make these trips.<p>It is also remarkable that it is possible to replace a regular vehicle operated by a human as a livery service, with an incredibly complex machine and still make a business case out of it. That says a lot about how far computers have come in the last couple of decades.
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wpietri超过 6 年前
I will be really interested to see what limitations the service launches with. From what I&#x27;ve seen, they have been extraordinarily hazy about what the cars can actually do (e.g., time of day, weather, locations, dealing with non-road complexity). That makes sense, of course, as it&#x27;s valuable information for competitors, but I&#x27;m still eager to find out.<p>I&#x27;ll also be interested to see how much this is them wanting to run a full production service versus an advertisement for their technology. Will it be more like Google Search? Or more like Android, where they maintain a small market share as a demonstration of where they want people to go?
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davewritescode超过 6 年前
So the truth is Google is expanding its pool of test users, removing their NDAs, and starting in the easiest place in the world to operate a driverless car.<p>It’s certainly progress, but I would have appreciated a less click-bait headline.
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ProAm超过 6 年前
Lfyt and Uber must be having a heart attack right now.
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Animats超过 6 年前
Waymo announced this last month.[1]<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arstechnica.com&#x2F;cars&#x2F;2018&#x2F;10&#x2F;waymo-wont-have-to-prove-its-driverless-taxis-are-safe-before-2018-launch&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arstechnica.com&#x2F;cars&#x2F;2018&#x2F;10&#x2F;waymo-wont-have-to-prov...</a>
vertline3超过 6 年前
I think it will help the blind, and people with seizures, so I hope it gets figured out. I do some driving for people with visual impairment, and I enjoy helping, but this would be best.
sytelus超过 6 年前
TLDR; Waymo will be spinning up new company next month exclusively for app based rides (name is being kept secret). Fares will be competitive with Uber&#x2F;Lyft. They did year long test drive for 400 customers in Phoenix. These same customers would be offered initial access. Other competitors still remains far behind in terms of disengagement metric.<p>This will mark the first ever commercial self-driving cab service.
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slackoverflower超过 6 年前
Uber has done the hard work of normalizing ride sharing everywhere and giving consumer pricing expectations of rides, just for Google to sweep in with it fixed-cost self driving car ride sharing service to start collecting massive profits. It is going to take a while to spread nationwide but Google will do it eventually, really just a matter of time (not even money for a company as rich as Google). I&#x27;m really wondering where Uber goes from here.
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LarryMade2超过 6 年前
I&#x27;m imagining the traffic&#x2F;resource simulations that would certainly be run to plan such a thing, will be fun productive times.<p>Then the next thing is all the side industries that will come of it. What will people do when they don&#x27;t have to concentrate on the road while going from point a to b... Might open up more &quot;Point B&quot;s for people who don&#x27;t like driving too...
miguelmota超过 6 年前
This is huge. It must feel surreal being driven around by a driverless car. Hope it comes with a Jarvis voice for navigation
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FabHK超过 6 年前
&gt; &quot;you could anticipate a material contribution to the world from Waymo over the next couple years,&quot; he said.<p>I doubt the drivers made redundant agree with that characterisation.<p>(Of course, that&#x27;s been the Luddites&#x27; argument all along. Will the drivers be absorbed in some other productive pursuit? Or is it different this time?)
beerlord超过 6 年前
Cynical analysis:<p>This announcement of &#x27;business paying for rides&#x27; is priming the customer to have their data sold to corporations. How else would it make sense for someone like Walmart to offer the free ride?<p>Walmart (for example) will want to know the personal profile of that customer, the routes they normally travel, where they shop, and how much they spend. That way they can target new customers who will potentially spend a lot of money on high-margin products.<p>Alternatively, a customer who books a ride to Kmart might get a popup before the booking is confirmed - come to Walmart instead and the ride is free!<p>Maybe the car auto-routes to drive past Walmart? Maybe it parks in a parking slot closer to their store? Lots of possibilities.<p>Don&#x27;t forget Google&#x27;s original business - data collection and advertising.
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tonyquart超过 6 年前
I have also read an article that discusses about self-driving cars at <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.lemberglaw.com&#x2F;self-driving-autonomous-car-accident-injury-lawyers-attorneys&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.lemberglaw.com&#x2F;self-driving-autonomous-car-accid...</a>. I think it&#x27;s always interesting to talk about this future technology. However, for now, I personally think there are still so many aspects and features that should be fixed and perfected by automakers before bringing them to public.
gaussdiditfirst超过 6 年前
Launching in Phoenix only; for anyone whose never been there, the roads are straight &amp; wide with extremely sparse car&#x2F;foot-traffic and zero bad weather days. For those living in actual big US cities, don&#x27;t hold your breath that this service will launch anytime soon for you...
dumbfoundded超过 6 年前
With driverless electric vehicles, an ad model can economically work. You get in the car and there&#x27;s a screen with ads and if you pay extra, you get the premium features like no ads and music control.<p>The only hard part is bootstrapping the capital to get network effects (you want enough cars so that users don&#x27;t have to wait a long time). Google should have enough money.
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paul7986超过 6 年前
We are now guinea pigs to the robot car revolution and it&#x27;s progress.<p>Wait I didnt sign up for this!
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riya_876超过 6 年前
This is good initiative taken by Waymo CEO in terms of Pollution. Good Luck for this!
nuguy超过 6 年前
Absolutely nobody wants to hear this — but I’m an Uber driver. I work in the sf area. After an average day I go through 250 miles and have brought in a total of 330 dollars. The cost to fuel, maintain and replace my car is 20 cents per mile. Driving every day as I do, I make a lot more than most people would guess. Drivers are actually paid well which is why every other car in sf is an Uber driver. Cutting the driver out would give a competitor a very distinct advantage.<p>AI and automation are evil. Nobody appreciates the fact that the only reason human beings generally enjoy a good life is because they possess a resource that cannot be found anywhere else or reproduced by any means. As soon as that is no longer true, life as we know it will cease to exist.<p>Already, in today’s world where sentience is uniquely human, it is only a privileged few in the higher strata of the first world who actually have what you might call a good quality of life. How could anyone think that the waterline of poverty will move down instead of up once humans no longer monopolize intelligence? Killer robots don’t even have to be considered — the economics of true ai are more than enough.<p>The key is that the only requirement for how the state of the world will change is that entropy is satisfied. It is actually entropy that contorted matter into our human figures that are unimaginably complicated. Society, nature and the world are a convoluted way of expending energy. Just as humans were very surprising compared to the barren earth, the next step that satisfies entropy will also be surprising. The importance of thinking in terms of entropy is that it allows you to appreciate that very unexpected and surprising things might happen because there are many weird ways that might be most efficient in satisfying entropy — many weird monstrosities of matter such as ourselves. I think sometimes the human mind has a tendency to think it’s human progress that’s supposed to be satisfied universally instead of entropy.<p>I think that when you look at it this way you can sort of see that the global economy actually serves some mysterious, higher purpose. We tend to think of global economics as driving forward progress for humanity and our quality of life. And although this makes intuitive sense and seems to agree with the way things have gone, it’s not true. Time is a series of integrations folding in on themselves and blossoming into one moment after the next. Humans will continue to be integrated into larger and more complex super organisms — just as our mitochondria folded into us and viruses folded into our dna and rna folded into every living thing, we will succumb to the next integration and society as we know it will be lost. This is all to serve entropy. Our cars and televisions have been very convenient integrations.<p>The most important takeaway of my insane ideas is that ai should resisted at all cost. If we allow it to exist, we will enter into a very unstable configuration Where it’s basically only a matter of time before we become lost to it.<p>I find it very hard to carry the belief that ai is coming and that it will end the world. It causes me material emotional distress every single day. I feel very depressed even writing this.
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jpm_sd超过 6 年前
Here&#x27;s a non-WSJ story: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bloomberg.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;articles&#x2F;2018-11-13&#x2F;waymo-to-start-first-driverless-car-service-next-month" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bloomberg.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;articles&#x2F;2018-11-13&#x2F;waymo-to-...</a>
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cenal超过 6 年前
Hopefully New York permits them to operate in the city despite recently limiting the number of ride sharing drivers.
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StreamBright超过 6 年前
And where are the ads going to be inserted? :)
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darkerside超过 6 年前
I know driverless cars are supposed to be the next big thing, but I have to say I&#x27;ve become a bit skeptical that it will improve quality of life at all. We can use technology for guided driving that is as safe as, or even safer than, full automation. And what are the other benefits? More time in the car to do what, scroll Facebook, work remotely, and look at ads?<p>No thanks, rather focus on driving.
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