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The Teddy Bear Effect

49 点作者 helloworld超过 6 年前

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KMag超过 6 年前
It&#x27;s a very interesting hypothesis, but I hope that either the journalist misinterpreted the study, or I misinterpreted the journalist with<p>&gt; In fact, he found that the more cherubic a black CEO’s face, the higher his salary—and even his company’s revenues.<p>I hope the study controlled for firm revenues when evaluating the effect of facial features on salary. It&#x27;s difficult to both simultaneously control for revenues and also attribute causation on revenues. I can imagine several plausible mechanisms (maybe a teddy bear face reduces power struggles within the C-suite) by which the face affects revenue and this in turn drives salary. I have no doubt that the salary differences remain after controlling for revenues, and there&#x27;s some bidirectional causality, but the journalist&#x27;s phrasing suggests to me a direction of causality that may not be warranted.
starbeast超过 6 年前
I am light skinned and look much younger than my age. I have noticed over the years that I seem to not be allowed anywhere near any kind of management role. Although I will be trusted with great responsibility to actually research, develop, build and deliver, I have not generally been allowed to define projects or suggest strategy. I am either at the sharp end or nowhere, it seems. I suspect that my only way to be anywhere near being in an executive position is if I start my own business.<p>edit - of course it might be nothing to do with appearance, I definitely have some negative character traits. Though if it is character traits, very similar traits don&#x27;t seem to hurt the men with stubble and prominent chin clefts in their careers.
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sudhirj超过 6 年前
This doesn’t seem surprising, given the reverse has long been known - in any supposed meritocracy, height, a deep voice, facial hair all tend to correlate with (or cause?) authority. I’ve experienced that personally - I look older than I am, so people look to me for advice even before they establish my credentials or competency.
11thEarlOfMar超过 6 年前
I&#x27;d be interested in also seeing the the boards of directors who hired the CEOs. That would enrich the conversation.
sandov超过 6 年前
&gt;He says some people misunderstand the aim of his research; he doesn’t suggest that African Americans undergo plastic surgery to look more baby-faced, or wear glasses if they have 20&#x2F;20 vision, or make an effort to speak softly. He’s not warning mature-looking black men away from C-suite roles. “I think we should focus on dismantling the hierarchical structures and systems that keep people out and produce phenomena like the Teddy Bear Effect,” he explains. “I want people to realize that we don’t live in a meritocracy, that we are judged by different standards. A quality that could be an asset in one group could be a liability in another.” And because people make many choices and decisions “outside of awareness, intent, or control,” prompted by cues they often don’t notice consciously, Livingston says it might be helpful to change hiring and promotion practices to avoid such blind spots involving physical appearance.<p>And how did he come to the conclusion that these effects and psychological biases are undesirable and we should find mechanisms to avoid them? The journalist either skipped it, or Livingston jumped to state his opinion without explaining himself.<p>I could also interpret the data presented in the completely opposite way: these psychological biases have helped us choose people more apt for these positions and we should create an AI that chooses people based on these facial characteristics, but well, as long as I don&#x27;t provide a rationale, I&#x27;m just spewing bullshit, as the second part of this article does.<p>I&#x27;m sorry for the diatribe, but I&#x27;m a little tired of these articles trying to push their political agenda.
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geeWow超过 6 年前
Is there anything that anybody can do right to make anyone happy about racial differences?<p>Can anyone not break the eggshells? Maybe what we need to do is just keep dumping money into this problem, until there’s no more money left?<p>Then everyone gets to sing Bodak Yellow, act like Cardi B, Queen of the fucking universe no matter how beautiful or ugly, smart or dumb they might just coincidentally be. That way, everyone is just born perfect and circumstances have no affect on our lives.<p>Don’t gotta dance, wear red bottom shoes, you can get ‘em both, you don’t gotta choose.