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Article 13 is almost finished and will change the internet as we know it

438 点作者 philipps超过 6 年前

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GuB-42超过 6 年前
It looks surprisingly reasonable.<p>&quot;internet platforms that organise and promote large amounts of copyright-protected works uploaded by their users in order to make a profit&quot;<p>That&#x27;s actually a lot of limitation. From my understanding: &quot;organise and promote&quot; means it is not simple hosting, and &quot;in order to make a profit&quot; excludes organizations like Wikimedia Commons and &quot;large amounts&quot; most likely excludes smaller websites like fan sites, and &quot;uploaded by their users&quot; exclude search engines.<p>It is clearly meant to target a form of abuse that is much too common in the &quot;internet as we know it&quot;. It is mostly apparent in sites like PornHub. They live by monetizing content they don&#x27;t have the rights for, and they use their status as a platform as a way to stay legal. I think YouTube admitted that in the early days, they voluntarily turned a blind eye to copyright infringement as a way to grow ahead of their competition.<p>It is unfair to legitimate companies who do their best to make sure their content really is original or properly licensed.<p>And if it changes the internet as we know it today, is it that bad? It will push people to self publish instead of relying on &quot;platforms&quot;, like the old internet.<p>As for the potential for abuse, remember that the article isn&#x27;t finished, it has yet to be completed, ratified, and tried. Public debate is important and we shall not let everything pass, but IMHO, the spirit is good.
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porlune超过 6 年前
This seems like it will benefit the whales more than the fish, as they can absorb copyright infringement costs into their already expansive legal departments, whereas a smaller company will likely go belly up or be chummed.
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danijelb超过 6 年前
In a weird way, this might be EU&#x27;s strategy to finally deal significant damage to Google and Facebook, as this law will encourage development of alternatives on decentralized peer-to-peer technologies. However, I&#x27;m not sure if EU politicians are that smart...
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losthobbies超过 6 年前
I wrote to my MEP and this is the response I got:<p>Following a number of important amendments being made to the Copyright Directive since July, the proposal was put to a plenary vote in September, which over 60% of MEPs supported. During further negotiations between Parliament, the Council (EU Member States) and the European Commission, any remaining shortcomings can be addressed.<p>I am in favour of a balanced Copyright Directive that allows for a free and fair internet, and also ensures the fair remuneration of creators, artists, publishers and journalists who create important jobs, growth and innovation in the EU.<p>With regard to a stronger right for press publishers, Article 11 allows for: • Fair remuneration for journalists and press publishers for the use of their articles. • Financially independent press (independent from platforms). • Quality journalism. • Journalists to get a share of the press publishers&#x27; remuneration. Private use of press articles is allowed. Hyperlinking is allowed.<p>With regard to the value gap, Article 13 allows for: • Platforms to take more responsibility for the content on their websites. • Fair remuneration for European right holders (artists, musicians, authors etc.) from the platforms that use their works. • Platforms to conclude licenses with the right holders. • Right holders and platforms to find a practical solution to bring copyright and liability in a better balance. The scope of Article 13 has been limited to those platforms which infringe the most copyright. Platforms like Spotify, iTunes, Netflix, eBay, Wikipedia, dating-platforms, software developing platforms, blogs, private homepages, dropbox etc. do not fall under Article 13.<p>Copyright rules need to reflect the new realities and business models of the 21st century, particularly the rise of digital media. Press publishers and other content producers should receive a fair share for the use of their content on the internet. Currently, most generated revenue goes to the platforms and aggregators, such as Google, Facebook, YouTube.<p>It is of course a priority that the Internet remains a platform where free speech prevails. The rules will only affect platforms that explicitly make profit from copyrighted works. Private individuals can continue to share content on the internet for non-commercial purpose. Platforms such as universities, scientific databases and online encyclopaedias, which are not dealing with copyright content as their primary purpose, will all be exempt from the new rules.<p>_________________
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radarsat1超过 6 年前
The GDPR has already resulted in quite a few websites simply refusing to serve the EU. Will this clinch it? Will the EU be cut off form the internet due to over-regulation that no one wants to put themselves at risk over?
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Legogris超过 6 年前
This has the potential of being a blessing in the disguise since these barriers will not hold for decentralized alternatives where there is no obvious platform operator to hold responsible.
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marak830超过 6 年前
Bloody hell that&#x27;s rather terrifying. After GDPR I was thinking Europe would be the bastion of the internet, now it looks like it&#x27;s time to decentralise the internet completely. Which is going to surely have it&#x27;s own issues I&#x27;m sure.
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haywirez超过 6 年前
I&#x27;m worried about influencing outcomes in the EU due to language barriers, especially on boring and &quot;unsexy&quot; issues like Internet regulation. It&#x27;d be important for the EU to be able to vote for representatives regardless of your primary jurisdiction.<p>Even if I manage to convince most of the representatives from my region, they will be outvoted by the French who had a big hand in passing the proposal forward the last time... It&#x27;s like they reside in a completely different universe, with no hope of meaningful communication.<p>Edit: adding a link to this false-positive emulator script[0] as an example of how stupid the proposal is.<p>[0]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;AlecMuffett&#x2F;status&#x2F;1015594170424193024" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;AlecMuffett&#x2F;status&#x2F;1015594170424193024</a>
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belorn超过 6 年前
&gt; Legal content should not be blocked.<p>I don&#x27;t think this will happen, but if this is actually made into a liability then this would create a rather interesting situation where a platform could be sued for blocking fair use content and miss-identified content.
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josteink超过 6 年前
OK. So I&#x27;d like to help make some noise surrounding this issue. Who should I email for best impact?
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DanBC超过 6 年前
A friendly reminder that almost no-one commenting in this thread has read the full articles and recitals.
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bloak超过 6 年前
It&#x27;s unclear to me what &quot;internet platforms that organise and promote large amounts of ... works uploaded by their users&quot; really means. It presumably applies to Facebook. It presumably doesn&#x27;t apply to e-mail. But if I had a social networking service that had no advertising and was only accessible to its paying users, would the law apply to it? What if postings were encrypted and could only be read by users that had requested access to them? Would the company running the service be expected to either backdoor the encryption or create bogus accounts and request access from those bogus accounts in order to monitor postings that might contain infringing content?
humanetech超过 6 年前
&gt; Licenses that platforms take out cover uploads by their users, as long as they act non-commercially or “don’t generate significant revenues”<p>Am I reading correctly that when you have a forum (e.g. Discourse) which is non-commercial i.e. for an open community, that any users uploading stuff or quoting article sections are exempt from this regulation (even though the forum is hosted on Discourse servers on a paid plan)?
zimbatm超过 6 年前
This might be a good thing actually.<p>If huge content distribution platforms like YouTube and Facebook are not viable anymore, it might put a renewed wind in the sails of self-hosting systems. Getting the Internet back to it&#x27;s distributed nature would make it more resilient.
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shubb超过 6 年前
So usenet is dead, right? 90%, usenet ISPs are a download server pretenting to be a mail server so they can claim safe harbour. If they are responsible for auditing their content, presumably this isn&#x27;t viable anymore...
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philipps超过 6 年前
I am curious about other interpretations of the impact this law will have. Would it encourage the development of more peer-to-peer sharing networks, which lack a central space to upload?<p>I wish we had the kind of concerted effort that the copyright lobby is able to launch, but focused on issues that reduce the net benefit of these platform more than copyright infringement: hate speech or intentional misinformation.
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yani超过 6 年前
I like this new law. My rights are abused every hour and corporations hide behind the safe harbour. It is a really good thing. Keep up EU
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tikumo超过 6 年前
This wil change nothing that is not already in effect for most sites. Try to upload a movie to Youtube, it will be removed. But only when the owner&#x2F;author complains or some automatic filter is triggered.<p>There is also too much content to check and enforce it all.
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dotdi超过 6 年前
I&#x27;m an EU citizen.<p>Honest question here: What can I do to influence this decision?
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kerng超过 6 年前
What strikes me as odd is that most of these efforts are driven by the EU. Are other unions and nations not seeing the need for these things? It reminded me of GDPR.
red75prime超过 6 年前
What if an internet platform requires encryption of every upload? And other internet platform stores keys for such uploads, and decryption happens on user&#x27;s computer.
mempko超过 6 年前
This will either be really good by forcing people to run their own sites (the web is a giant social network naturally) or will kill the meme culture.
mscasts超过 6 年前
I hope my country leaves the European union, soon.
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suomiperkels超过 6 年前
That&#x27;s why more and more people feel resentment towards their states and the EU. This is a blatant corruption and this is only going to get worse. There should be an investigation of all the people involved, money traced even for distant family members and acquaintances. If any shady behaviour is discovered then the justice should be dispensed. Any politician that abuses his position to serve company interest in exchange for money should receive a capital punishment as a deterrent
jasonjayr超过 6 年前
Is AWS&#x27;s S3 (or other object store providers) on the hook for upload filtering? Maybe just their EU locations?
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vectorEQ超过 6 年前
what if they post from outside of the EU, or the platform is not in the EU? that would mean these laws don&#x27;t apply? seems a bit useless law considering what the internet is... besides that it&#x27;s prone to trolls getting companies fined. stupid idea for on the internet if you ask me.
gdsdfe超过 6 年前
Hmmm This might make the dark net more mainstream
austincheney超过 6 年前
How will this be different from SOPA?
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nercury超过 6 年前
Small companies won&#x27;t have resources to create their own content filters.<p>Guess who is going to sell content-filter-as-a-service?
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ouid超过 6 年前
Ah yes, a private police force for the copyright holders. What on earth is wrong with just letting them sue?
rdlecler1超过 6 年前
The EU is going to regulate themeselves to the dark ages by simply creating an environment that is too antagonistic and costly to capitalism compared to other parts of the world. The regulations around capital raising for a fund in the EU is aweful. You’re better off being based in the US and simply invest in EU startups.
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ptah超过 6 年前
seems fair, if you&#x27;re going to make your money from user created content
h0mEDw超过 6 年前
As much as I like GDPR, I have no idea why would this law be any good. Perhaps I&#x27;m not seeing something here - can anyone explain how this law is good for society?
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tanilama超过 6 年前
Poor Europeans. The European&#x27;s Great Firewall.
LoSboccacc超过 6 年前
Well there goes my startup idea I was working on and off last two years.
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SidItion超过 6 年前
Julia is running her own upload filter in advance of the legislation she is fighting. My comment does not appear on her site.