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Facebook announces new Messaging Feature

73 点作者 spaetzel超过 14 年前

16 条评论

flipbrad超过 14 年前
So according to their blog:<p>“All of your messages with someone will be together in one place, whether they are sent over chat, email or SMS. You can see everything you’ve discussed with each friend as a single conversation.<p>I’m intensely jealous of the next generation who will have something like Facebook for their whole lives. They will have the conversational history with the people in their lives all the way back to the beginning: From “hey nice to meet you” to “do you want to get coffee sometime” to “our kids have soccer practice at 6 pm tonight.” That’s a really cool idea.”<p>I bet advertisers (Facebook's true customers, let's not forget), overzealous law enforcement officials, not-so-honest-or-nice politicians, and identity thieves, are also intensely jealous of future generations with access to entire records of conversations.
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mithaler超过 14 年前
They're not offering email; they're trying to replace email with their own platform.
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spaetzel超过 14 年前
Also, you can now request an invite here <a href="http://www.facebook.com/about/messages/" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/about/messages/</a>
tealtan超过 14 年前
Why this won't have the same problems that Google Wave faced:<p>+ It incorporates existing modes of communication. You HAD to have a Wave account to talk to someone else on Wave, and the biggest issue for me when I got my account was that I didn't have anyone to use Wave with. Facebook doesn't particularly care in this case, it wants to aggregate ALL your communication. You'll stay in touch with your less techy friends who still email you or text you.<p>+ Large user base with existing friends list. Google Wave started you out from scratch.<p>+ Really smart product video. Most people didn't want to watch the Google Wave video or got confused by it, whereas Facebook's video is super clear about what it is. It focuses less on the cool tech (unlike Google Wave) and focuses completely on why you will want to use it.
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jewbacca超过 14 年前
The only feature I care about and what I've been hurting for for years is some means of segregating the Groups bacn. Some of most personally significant correspondences I've ever had are in my Messages Inbox. In the early days, it had a sentiment-noise ratio second only to a shoebox I keep in the back of my closet. Now it's 95% garbage from Groups/Events I value just barely enough to not unsubscribe from. I recognize the value of those messages given their own context, and I also recognize that the signal's dropped off since I'm no longer a 19-year-old drama whore.<p>But the simple ability to sort personal messages from mass bacn is still the #1 feature I've wanted from Facebook, through all these years of feed redesigns and app platforms.
ibgeek超过 14 年前
Am I the only one who sees this as Google Wave Redux? I mean, they even hired the guy who created Google Wave.
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_b8r0超过 14 年前
Did anyone else notice the Chuckle Brothers in the photo? (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuckle_Brothers" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuckle_Brothers</a>)<p>They're down as the picture for Chris Piro.<p>Apologies for those uninterested in 80s and 90s UK kids entertainment, but it just seems so random.
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zugumzug超过 14 年前
Whether or not it works, this seems like the right approach for FB. I definitely have had the experience of not knowing how to contact people (friends, parents, younger siblings.) People often talk about building something that solves a common problem and this does that. I think it will catch on.
chrisgoodrich超过 14 年前
The problem with this? (and all other attempts to change "messaging")<p>Is that it requires users to do something different than they expect or do currently. The goal of having a "unified inbox" won't work unless you natively integrate with all the places where somebody currently sends messages. This requires the user to change their behavior for what? To have a "unified inbox?" I don't think that's compelling enough for user to change their messaging behavior.<p>Google has the same issue with Google Voice.
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ciupicri超过 14 年前
As jwz would say:<p><i>Every program attempts to expand until it can read mail. Those programs which cannot so expand are replaced by ones which can.</i>
hartror超过 14 年前
"<i>this product isn't email, but it lets people who do use email to connect with the rest of us</i>"<p>Even Facebook seem to have caught the email is dead meme.<p>"<i>keep this lookup table in my head</i>"<p>Is this a pain point for anyone? Our contacts are stored in such a way that this is obvious, I can't send a SMS to grandma as she doesn't have a mobile.
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Kilimanjaro超过 14 年前
The only flaw of all this is that vanity ids won't automagically become email addresses for everybody.<p>If I tell my friends to find me at facebook/kilimanjaro I want them to message me at kilimanjaro@facebook.com too.<p>They should associate and create 500M email accounts right away and become the greatest email provider on earth.
Tomek_超过 14 年前
Does anyone here have already used it? I wonder about two things: file attachments, are they there? and 2nd thing: multi-persons conversation: can you add a new person to an already existing conversation? how does it work with chat or phone-messaging?
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iantimothy超过 14 年前
I think the issue with a unified inbox and the ability to push messages to different channels based on the recipient's choice is that a lot of time, the context of the message depends on the channel i choose to send it with.<p>The world of asynchronous and synchronous communication is going to clash in a very messy, destructive, apocalyptic Neo-versus-Agent Smith way.<p>For example:<p>1. SMS<p>When I send a message via SMS, it could be either to pass on information or initiate (continue) a conversation. Sometimes the content of the message isn't clear enough to highlight the context and when this happens between a boyfriend and girlfriend, the gates of hell can be opened, and the fury of a thousand suns going supernova is unleashed, usually on the hapless boyfriend (not a true story, I swear).<p>Or whether you should end the thread with 'ttys' or 'ttyl' or 'brb' as with IM protocol, and trust me, sometimes not continuing a SMS thread or not ending it nicely can lead to you having to spend money to say sorry.<p>Although I think SMS usage has been happening long enough that people generally tend to interpret context relatively well NOW, SMS communication sometimes do suffer from the problem of parties not knowing whether a conversation is supposed to be happening asynchronously or (relatively) synchronously.<p>If you have ever sent an SMS (usually to an attractive member of the opposite sex after a first meeting, or maybe a very prospective business contact) and waited for a few hours for a reply, frantically wondering if you had said something wrong, or that person wasn't interested in maintaining what looked like a blossoming relationship, then you understand how different perceptions of what mode a conversation is supposed to be in can sunder the social fabric.<p>2. Email<p>We tend to allow the intervals between subsequent emails in a conversation to be longer than SMS. After all, there is the general understanding that accessing and replying to one's email is harder than receiving and sending messages via SMS because of the ubiquity of the mobile phone versus Internet access on the move and the ease of entering a long form email versus sending a SMS. Also, it is easier for most to type long message when emailing than when sending a SMS due to the nature of the clients and where we actually do it (i.e. on the desktop). I usually switch to a more focused mode when reading emails because they generally are about work and are usually longer.<p>Subject headers in email are a great way to delineate threads. An email with a new subject is the start of a new thread.<p>3. Instant messaging<p>Instant messaging is clearly generally expected to be synchronous. When instant messaging, there are socially acceptable standards to start and end a conversation. The signaling has been learned.<p>Is it going to be impossible to learn the new social rules of engagement? I don't believe it will be so. However, I do believe that the lack of clear signaling of the context of a conversation (i.e. synchronous versus asynchronous, start of a new topic ...) could be disastrous.<p>Note: Maybe only some of us have to relearn. It could very well be the younger generation already know how to contextualize the messages without use of the various channels, subject headers ... If so, I'm curious how they do it.
robryan超过 14 年前
Didn't seem to state whether the email will have POP3/IMAP access, if not this just seems to be an attempt to push more of our lives onto Facebook without a great amount of gain.
retube超过 14 年前
I just sent to my gmail a test email from facebook. 5 minutes on it hasn't arrived.