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Countries With Zero Rating Have More Expensive Wireless

255 点作者 J253超过 6 年前

16 条评论

wyldfire超过 6 年前
"What is zero rating?" you might ask. (I did). This is the process of ISPs offering free carriage of exclusively particular traffic. e.g. T-Mobile's "unlimited [downsampled] youtube" offering, Facebook's free internet (offered in India IIRC), Amazon's whispernet for Kindle.
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LarryDarrell超过 6 年前
Step 1: Convince everyone that the goals of anti-trust are low prices, not breaking up the consolidation of corporate power.<p>Step 2: Cripple the regulatory powers of the government by convincing everyone that government is the problem.<p>Step 3: Soak your now captive customers in a regulatory friendly &#x2F; competion-free environment.
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tzs超过 6 年前
How much of this is due to in places with cheap wireless offering zero rating won&#x27;t be as effective at attracting customers as it would be in a place with expensive wireless, hence you are more likely to see it offered in places with expensive wireless?<p>For instance, T-Mobile&#x27;s &quot;Music Freedom&quot; zero-rates a whole bunch of music streaming services. In the US, where data is expensive, that could easily cause someone to pick T-Mobile over one of the other providers, if they listen to a lot of music. With &quot;Music Choice&quot; I can get by on the smallest data plan. Without it, I&#x27;d have to step up, maybe even to unlimited.<p>In a country where data is cheap, something like &quot;Music Freedom&quot; wouldn&#x27;t make much difference, and so I could see less ISPs bothering with the technical and administrative overhead of having such a program.
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resters超过 6 年前
While it is interesting to read this, there are a lot of confounding variables. Chances are countries which would allow zero ratings in the first place would also be more tolerant of other incarnations of excessive market power.<p>Note, that in spite of my opposition to net neutrality, I strongly support using traditional antitrust mechanisms to prevent firms&#x27; excessive market power and last mile monopolies from leading to unfair prices.
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makomk超过 6 年前
I get the feeling that the authors of this report are not entirely honest. For example, part-way through they make this claim about Portuguese operator MEO&#x27;s plans:<p>&quot;Using applications participating in the DPP is two up to 77-fold cheaper compared to using applications via general data volume. This strong incentive for customers to use participating applications infringes on the rights of consumers to use applications of their choice and the rights of CAPs to provide services independent of the origin of their users.&quot;<p>Up to 77 times more for neutral data than data to their partners - sounds scary, but how do they get that figure? Well, they take MEO&#x27;s smallest month-to-month contract which offers 250 minutes + SMS + 500 MB of data + free in-network calls, divide the amount of data by the total cost, and compare this with the nominally 10 GB Smart Net addon which <i>only</i> offers data to the included services. That is, they&#x27;re treating the phone and SMS part of the all-internet plan as though it costs nothing when it definitely does not.<p>I think the two-fold cheaper figure on the lower end is wrong too - on paper the non-neutral Smart Net is more like three times cheaper than comparable prepaid data, at least for people who make good use of the Smart Net data limit. Bear in mind that as I understand it each Smart Net plan is for access to <i>one</i> of Messaging, Social, Video, or Music, which includes a handful of the main sites in that category. I imagine most people will have usage that is relatively low and spread across multiple categories plus some outside-of-package usage, in which case a general internet access plan will work out cheaper.
illumin8超过 6 年前
Does anyone know who regulates Comcast&#x2F;Xfinity in California? I&#x27;m a cord cutter and with 4K video becoming more popular, I&#x27;ve almost hit my 1TB data cap twice in the last year. Comcast&#x2F;Xfinity is illegally promoting their video services by delivering it over the same network, but zero rating their content, while charging customers overage fees for using 3rd party video services like Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon Prime Video.<p>I filed a complaint with the California PUC and they told me they don&#x27;t regulate Comcast&#x2F;Xfinity because they are not a landline telephone service.<p>It seems horrible that there might not be any regulator that is keeping Comcast&#x2F;Xfinity from harming consumers like myself.
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nroets超过 6 年前
IMHO net neutrality and zero rating are just the tip of the regulatory iceberg.<p>The really hard work of the regulator is to ensure that telcos don&#x27;t abuse their access to spectrum and other resources. IMHO the best way to do this is to force telcos to give each other access to their infrastructure at a reasonable price. For example, when margins* are high enough, new virtual telcos must be able to start up with minimal infrastructure.<p>The consumer side does not need a lot of regulation. If there is enough competition, consumers will vote with their money.<p>Edit: Changed &quot;prices&quot; to &quot;margins&quot;.
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luka-birsa超过 6 年前
Reading the comments bellow its really funny to hear all this bull about caps being there to protect the providers and their lack of capacity.<p>I have 300 mbit link for 50 USD and no caps. I have full lte and 2TB downlink cap for 25 USD.<p>But we do have strong competition and it seems it was never about capacity. Its about who offers more. Its obvious that they can afford this since nobody is loosing money, and all of this on a very small and marginal market where isps purchsing power is small.<p>You are being bullshited to, dear Americans.
julienfr112超过 6 年前
What about country with more expensive wireless have zero rating ? If wireless is cheap, you can afford to pay it so zero rating would have no &#x27;client&#x27;.
buboard超过 6 年前
This report is particularly suspect. First of all zero-rating is not banned in the EU, and it&#x27;s not clear which countries are included in the &quot;has zero-rating&quot; basket. The more likely interpretation of their data is that &quot;in countries with shitty internet, providers tend to offer a lot of zero-rating offers&quot;. E.g the internet is vastly better in romania than in greece yet they both have a lot of &quot;differentially rated&quot; offers<p>Then they only show two years , 2015 vs 2016, where there is a slight increase of 2% in prices , without error bars. Then there is this:<p>&gt; we repeated our analysis for zero-rating offers introduced in 2016 or 2017. However, initially this did not produce statistically signifcant results in any category. Closer examination of the data however revealed Finland to be an outlier market, in which the replacement of a single offer signifcantly changed the prices in almost all data volume aaskets. This is likely due to the fact that unlimited data plans, which do not sensibly admit a price per gigaayte calculation, are prevalent in Finland. We therefore repeated the analysis but excluded Finland from our dataset. In this case, we found a statistically signifcant result (p=0.04) for markets in which zero-rating was introduced between 2015 and 2016. These markets showed a 1% price increase between 2016 and 2017, whereas markets without zero-rating in both cases showed a 10% price decrease.<p>I think they are stretching it with p=0.04 on a cherrypicked sample of n=30, and present a rather peculiar conclusion about their data. Zero rating is obviously marketing garbage, but i am very unconvinced that it is the reason why ISPs are not investing in their networks.<p>(It also took 10 minutes to download their 5MB pdf - talk about bad internet ;) )
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HillaryBriss超过 6 年前
after reading this article, i have come to view zero-rating as a form of branding. basically, the internet providers are trying to take a step away from the forces of commoditization. once i viewed it that way, it&#x27;s pretty predictable that the price for the same exact service will be higher than if zero-rating were disallowed.
exabrial超过 6 年前
I have my doubts whether or not this an apples-apples comparison. EU tends to have extreme regulation and also lofty subsidies. Nevertheless, I agree with the assertion that zero-rating is an anticompetitive practice. Actually rating in general just kind of stinks. Billing this way has lead to the current situation.
ikeboy超过 6 年前
Be cautious of getting causality claims from studies like this that don&#x27;t try to control for anything
olivil超过 6 年前
Highly anecdotal but while visiting Lithuania I had a prepaid SIM card with 200 local call minutes and 6GB of (quite fast) LTE data + unlimited Facebook (including Messenger) and Spotify for 3 Euros for 30 days, SIM card included.
ummonk超过 6 年前
Obviously in countries with poorer wireless infrastructure there is more reason to use zero rating to expand coverage...
k__超过 6 年前
I pay 35€ a month for 16GB LTE.<p>Is this expensive?
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