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People who own businesses should not act like assholes

51 点作者 hnyk超过 6 年前

10 条评论

hn_throwaway_99超过 6 年前
To be honest, it was the author who I felt like, while perhaps not an asshole, showed a pretty intense level of oblivious immaturity.<p>I get it, the other guy was a jerk, especially to someone who was maintaining an add-on for free. But at the point where the author responded with the &quot;Sorry, I don&#x27;t agree with that,&quot; he should have left it at that and moved on. Who cares what some rando on the internet thinks about your product? Instead the author decided to go into vindictive mode and leave the negative review, and then leave this whole blog post, which does the author no favors. To be honest, to me the cringiest part of this article is it feels like the author is trying to project how virtuous he is, when, at least for me, it had the opposite effect.
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i_dont_know_超过 6 年前
I&#x27;ve worked on FOSS before and got a handful of messages from people like this. They&#x27;re very very few and far between, but I always found them fascinating because of how much it broke their worldviews.<p>They&#x27;re usually people who control enough money that they can &#x27;throw money at a problem&#x27; and it&#x27;ll largely diminish or go away. They usually find a desperate enough vendor, employee, or subcontractor who will deal with their attitudes for enough cash, or quickly fire them if they can&#x27;t.<p>They usually have the inverse attitude towards customers giving them money -- that is, they believe it&#x27;s also part of <i>their</i> job to take abuse from those willing to buy.<p>So, most of their business transactions involve them giving or taking abuse with the threat of financial withdrawal if the abuse isn&#x27;t accepted. It&#x27;s how they define transactions. &quot;Who&#x27;s the abuser, who&#x27;s the abusee?&quot; The answer depends, strictly, on which way the money is flowing.<p>FOSS breaks their worldview because they&#x27;re not the customer in the same way. They don&#x27;t have that leverage. They&#x27;re just an angry person on the street asking you to help them carry their groceries in, and at some point, if they realize it, it&#x27;s priceless.
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vinceguidry超过 6 年前
The Internet over the years has taught me the fine art of non-engagement. Just... stop. The instant it starts going down a bad road, stop. Don&#x27;t send another message, or send a blithely positive one just to blunt the energy and move on.<p>Seems so simple, but I think the need for closure is what keeps many from being able to do this. But it&#x27;s dangerous. The Internet is dangerous. All it takes is for one person, it doesn&#x27;t even have to be a party to the interaction, to ruin your day if not your life.<p>Legal threats? Please. This guy might SWAT you.
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jik超过 6 年前
Wow, out of all the things I&#x27;ve written on my blog, _this_ makes it onto the front page of HN. How droll.<p>BTW, just to be clear, I wasn&#x27;t the one who posted the link here. I don&#x27;t think it&#x27;s particular relevant to what HN is for, but <i>shrug</i> apparently somebody did.<p>This is all I&#x27;m going to have to say about the attacks on my character here...<p>When some stranger on the internet acts like a dick toward me in private emails, I call it out -- in private emails.<p>When I decide that someone has acted sufficiently like a dick toward me in private emails, I put them in my burn-before-read file, and I tell them so, because I don&#x27;t believe in ghosting people.<p>That&#x27;s usually the end of it.<p>When someone, having been told that they are now in my burn-before-read file, decides they&#x27;re going to go out of their way to email me from a different email address and harass me some more, then that&#x27;s just what it is -- harassment. If they&#x27;ll do it to me, they&#x27;ll do it to other people, and I believe that calling out harassers publicly is, in fact, the right thing to do. That&#x27;s why I posted the reviews.<p>I disagree with the claim made below that it was &quot;bad faith&quot; to do so, because having interacted with the business owner, I was in fact in a position to know his character and how he treats people, and that is certainly an appropriate thing to tell people about who might be considering whether to patronize a business.<p>The last letter I got from them, asking me take down the reviews, was not &quot;fair.&quot; It was an attempt to intimidate me into taking down my reviews. It was, in fact, a classic example of an attempt at such intimidation. If you don&#x27;t recognize it as such, try reading @Popehat a bit. It is perfectly appropriate to respond with public shaming to someone trying to intimidate you into taking down content you posted about them that they don&#x27;t like (again, see @Popehat). Ever heard of the Streisand effect?<p>Finally, as I believe I made quite clear in the blog posting, I would have taken down all of the reviews and the blog posting itself in a second if they had simply apologized. I still would, if they apologized today. There&#x27;s no expiration date on that offer.
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puranjay超过 6 年前
I mean no one really comes out looking good in this story.<p>You don&#x27;t trump an asshole by out-assholing him
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caractacus超过 6 年前
It&#x27;s a beautiful story where one asshole meets another.
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chimen超过 6 年前
Only few people can act like Linus and get away with it (and for a good reason). HN is the worst place to brag about stuff like this. I&#x27;m a person with limited patience and it&#x27;s toxic for my business for me to deal with clients that&#x27;s why only my partner deals with it while I stay on the technical part. It&#x27;s worked wonders. It&#x27;s no shame in admitting you&#x27;re not the guy to do it all.
johnmarcus超过 6 年前
&quot;You&#x27;re not wrong Walter, you&#x27;re just an asshole.&quot; - The Dude.<p>I often want to vent about shite like this, so I feel for you. It sucks to get treated like dirt and just have to swallow it, else risk a bad-internet-wrap for (rightfully or wrongfully) putting someone in their place.<p>But outside of an anonymous post, which is not nearly was cathartic, it&#x27;s better to keep ones mouth shut in an ever so politically correct environment, dollar wise speaking anyways. People speak about how wrong bullying is, but then frown upon punching back. Unfortunately, a good counter punch is often the quickest resolution.<p>Good for you for standing up for yourself. I personally would hire you for being someone that tells it how it is, but most corporate HR teams may frown upon it, expecting you to be &quot;trouble&quot;.
ww520超过 6 年前
Can feel for the author. I have several open source projects and some users are very entitled and demanding. Some guy sent me an email demanding something and when I didn&#x27;t respond fast enough (was sleeping during the night), gave me an 1-star rating couple hours later. Some would add, &quot;1-star rating unless such and such features are added.&quot; Yeah right, like I give a shit about rating, especially on an open source project I publish out of my generosity.
DarkWiiPlayer超过 6 年前
I honestly don&#x27;t understand how they could have spelled that street name wrong.
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