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Do Jails Kill People?

129 点作者 Tomasz_Papka超过 6 年前

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zkms超过 6 年前
A major unaddressed issue is laws like PLRA (passed in 1996) that utterly wiped out federal court oversight of local&#x2F;state prisons&#x2F;jails. In addition, PLRA made it borderline-impossible for incarcerated people (whether convicted or not) to bring legit, non-frivolous lawsuits relating to unconstitutional conditions of confinement.<p>Pre-PLRA, there was <i>some</i> hard-won federal court oversight (consent decrees and the like) of state prisons&#x2F;jails but PLRA forcibly evicted federal courts from that role (with nothing to fill their place). See <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.newyorker.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;news-desk&#x2F;why-its-nearly-impossible-for-prisoners-to-sue-prisons" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.newyorker.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;news-desk&#x2F;why-its-nearly-impo...</a> or <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;casetext.com&#x2F;analysis&#x2F;nineties-crime-and-punishment-redux" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;casetext.com&#x2F;analysis&#x2F;nineties-crime-and-punishment-...</a> for more about this, as well as PLRA&#x27;s ugly twin, AEDPA.<p>All this wanton brutality and abusive conditions of confinement in jails&#x2F;prisons happens in part because PLRA countenances it, there&#x27;s no other way around it.
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kakarot超过 6 年前
My experience with jail:<p>I was having severe heart palpitations in jail and the guards would not give me my medicine. When I got irate they would threaten to throw me in the hole without food and water for a few days.<p>I also have a spine disorder that brings me extreme discomfort and the cots were the same units they&#x27;d ordered in the sixties. No stuffing at all, and I would wake up slightly paralyzed waist up for a few hours, with intense shoulder pain and barely being able to walk from sciatic flare-ups.<p>I coincidentally was suffering from multiple dental infections accelerated from black mold in my apartment, sometimes running fever, again with no medicine because I &quot;didn&#x27;t feel out the medicine form&quot;. They never gave me one and wouldn&#x27;t give me one. They wouldn&#x27;t cover an emergency dental operation either because &quot;I wasn&#x27;t going to be in there long enough&quot;. I really thought I was going to die or at least become critically ill and in need of hospitalization while in there. Only two or so weeks after I got out, I ended up developing an infection that paralyzed me almost completely until I was able to secure antibiotics.<p>Best part was, the entire conviction and incarceration was illegal but the prosecutor changed my public defender and the new one refused to help me or let me appeal my case. I was also handed the maximum allowed sentence for the conviction, despite absolutely no evidence and several conflicting testimonies.<p>The American justice system really is something.<p>Edit: forgot to mention a juicy part: The jail lied to me and told me the only way that I could bail out the night I was arrested was if I signed a particular form which I later found out waived my right to a fair and speedy trial by jury. I was tricked into taking away authority over my case from the people and bestowing it entirely to a judge with corrupt motives.
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tyingq超过 6 年前
This story about a woman giving birth in a cell at a Texas facility is pretty disturbing: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;dfw.cbslocal.com&#x2F;2012&#x2F;07&#x2F;10&#x2F;premature-baby-born-at-dawson-jail-without-medically-trained-personnel&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;dfw.cbslocal.com&#x2F;2012&#x2F;07&#x2F;10&#x2F;premature-baby-born-at-d...</a><p>The guards just ignored her. The baby died. The story mentions other incidents in the same facility. There are several world class hospitals just down the street.<p>It did get shut down, but likely solely due to this incident involving a child. The prior incidents were well known, but didn&#x27;t kill anyone other than prisoners.
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taxicabjesus超过 6 年前
I&#x27;ve decided that American jails are job projects [2]. They make work for guards, sheriffs and lawyers, at the expense of trapping people in a system from which they can&#x27;t escape.<p>The passenger I bailed out of jail [0] was almost killed by jail policies. He was forced to submit to a daily injection of time-release insulin, on the basis of his high A1C levels at intake. This has the effect of suppressing his blood sugar throughout the day... Time-release insulin is probably okay on a normal diet with adequate amounts of sugar. The Maricopa County Jail feeds a starvation diet, where the only things worth eating are found in the vending machines.<p>I think we&#x27;re slowly realizing the futility of fixing social problems by throwing people in cages. The recently-passed &quot;First Step act&quot; [1] is a baby-step in the right direction.<p>[0] <i>Who Are Your Lifelines?</i> <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.taxiwars.org&#x2F;who-are-your-lifelines&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.taxiwars.org&#x2F;who-are-your-lifelines&#x2F;</a> (originally posted at kuro5hin.org)<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;First_Step_Act" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;First_Step_Act</a><p>[2] <i>America&#x27;s Make-Work Sheriff: The Anachronism of Joseph Arpaio</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.taxiwars.org&#x2F;2017&#x2F;09&#x2F;americas-make-work-sheriff-anachronism.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.taxiwars.org&#x2F;2017&#x2F;09&#x2F;americas-make-work-sheriff-...</a><p>[2] <i>Ordinary Rendition: The Public Servants&#x27; Quagmire</i> <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.taxiwars.org&#x2F;2017&#x2F;10&#x2F;ordinary-rendition-public-servants.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.taxiwars.org&#x2F;2017&#x2F;10&#x2F;ordinary-rendition-public-s...</a>
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xfitm3超过 6 年前
Incarceration has been a sore spot of the american justice system for a long time. Privatization should be illegal and the plea system needs reform.<p>“Because jails are chaotic and concealed from outside view, we only become aware of them when very bad outcomes occur, such as deaths,”
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mruts超过 6 年前
The root of the problem is that we as a society can&#x27;t agree on what the purpose of prison is. Is it punishment? Is it repaying a debt to society? Is it reform? Is it to prevent people from committing more crime? This is also the reason why the US justice doesn&#x27;t make much sense either.<p>Because people have vastly different views on the matter, we are unable to construct a prison system (or justice system) that makes any sense.
forevertogether超过 6 年前
Has anyone watched the recent documentary &#x27;The Work&#x27;? I think putting people in jail is possibly the worst crime of all. Let&#x27;s get them in therapy instead. We can help to heal them by listening to their stories.<p>The trailer for &#x27;The Work&#x27; can be watched here - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=h8OVXG2GhpQ" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=h8OVXG2GhpQ</a>
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billfruit超过 6 年前
I read an estimate that the majority of rapes that happen in the US are prison rapes. If so then even the public discourse on rape itself is failing to highlight and protect these thousands of victims of sexual violence.
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August-Garcia超过 6 年前
&gt; The main cause of injuries was fights with other incarcerated people<p>Putting large quantities of aggressive people into confined areas does generally result in violence, yes.<p>Also, these two YouTube channels are by former prisoners, if you&#x27;re looking for information from that perspective:<p>* <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;channel&#x2F;UCGPB2ZA4096SESz_VZVzHoA" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;channel&#x2F;UCGPB2ZA4096SESz_VZVzHoA</a><p>* <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;user&#x2F;FreshOutSeries" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;user&#x2F;FreshOutSeries</a>
adamnemecek超过 6 年前
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unnouinceput超过 6 年前
Do jails kill people? No. Jail is a tool. People kill people.
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