Huawei Trolls U.S. on Spy Claims with a Jab at Snowden

I feel like this is fair. People like to paint enemies of the east while essentially letting the west get away with much more heinous stuff.<p>The difference of course is that we implicitly trust US tech companies, of course we do, nobody else has such a monopoly on CPUs and Operating System production. Not to mention web browsers and all kinds of technology. Avoiding the USA in your tech stack is quite literally impossible.<p>And we permit the US government (by extension the NSA and 5eyes) to do what ever they want to us without fear of repercussion because what course of action could we take? As long as we are not a US citizen we have literally zero protections.<p>it’s to the point that my EU based company is applying US sanctions (to Crimea for instance, where no EU sanction covers telecommunications) because we would fall out of line in many of our contracts from US tech companies.<p>It is clearly a double standard. But the answer is to hold the US to account. Not bring more of this hostile crap in.

We should start with the assumption that every government, carrier, service provider, device manufacturer is rogue and will start spying on us. As a technologist, it is responsibility of the people here to create sustainable systems and services which are simple to adopt so can be used by billions of people while keeping there privacy intact. I&#x27;ll be happy to fund (in my meager capacity) any effort by Mozilla&#x2F;EFF to take back control.

This is really not a smart defense. US accuses Chinese company of introducing backdoors in its products for the benefit of China. Chinese company says everyone does it, proves it based on Snowden revelations.<p>The Chinese company is most likely right. But if you are a national carrier, do you then buy the product with the Chinese backdoors?<p>The only defense that wouldn’t kill their sales would be arguing for the opposite, that backdoors undermine the trust of their customers, and that they have the same incentive as Google, Apple or Cisco to push back on those requests.

Referencing Prism is a jab at the US, but hardly a jab a Snowden. Misleading headline!

Nice, Huawei Finally pointed this out, so the next step is hopefully somebody pointing out the difference.<p>There will never be a Snowden in China. You can guarantee their life, or their love one&#x27;s life will be held hostage.<p>So not only does the &quot;West&quot; ( So to speak ) has a system in place protecting these people, they also have a system to vote them out and elect a new form of government should the ultimate worst come to play.<p>What can you do with the CCP?

Ping makes a pretty clever reference directly to this NSA program: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;PRISM_(surveillance_program)" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;PRISM_(surveillance_program)</a>. I&#x27;ve got to admit, it&#x27;s quite apropos, although I don&#x27;t think it dismisses the US&#x27;s legitimate concerns over PRC tech influence.

Frankly if Huawei tech is at risk of being compromised, so can any tech, even US-based ones. Shouldn&#x27;t be putting that much trust in the manufacturer regardless of where they are from.<p>The fight then ends up being a squabble over power and who should have it. The US government is only saying what it says because it simply wants more power in its hands—nothing more. Same goes for the China side, although they&#x27;re just trying to sell something. There&#x27;s no way China can win this argument since it&#x27;s just about power (unless they bend over).

Some of these comments are... weird. Multiple accounts with broken English defending China and bringing up African Americans (somewhat irrelevantly) in every argument. I&#x27;ll leave the speculation as an exercise for the reader.

The crime is the action, not who is doing it. Why should US firms be allowed to not only get away but seek to normalize and profit from global surveillance while Huawei is penalized for FUD? What sort of global system is this?<p>This just won&#x27;t fly for anyone concerned with the ethical issues. The point is not that Huawei should get away with anything but no one should. This not only makes a mockery of concern with surveillance but also exposes globalization and free markets as self serving political tools.<p>Huawei is a perfect example of how ethical issues are hijacked by vested interests with zero interest in the ethics to encourage an empty culture of jingoistic finger pointing that serve to distract and deny while advancing their own financial interests at the cost of everyone else.

What about the million Uighurs in Chinese concentration camps?<p>The scale of state crimes are vastly different here.