Apple’s 2018 MacBook Pros Attempt to Solve Flexgate, Without Admitting It Exists

A bigger problem imo is the $700 display replacement. I have a similar problem with my wife’s broken MacBook, where replacing the display costs almost as much as the computer itself.<p>The problem with the MacBook is that the display is bonded to the glass and the aluminum back so that you have to replace the entire top assembly to fix the display.<p>It’s even more depressing to know that the ribbon connecting the display is also soldered on.<p>Apple (and Ives in particular) talks a lot about recycling, sustainability, and product lifecycle, but that seems like complete bullshit once you actually open up or try to repair one of their products.

There are many examples of Apple never admitting design issues!<p>Beside what they are doing with their reputation and customers loyalty, I’m wondering how is it going to affect their engineering culture within the company itself.<p>They are very biased with their strategies in everything and they hardly change them. Same situation Microsoft was in some years ago.

I have owned 3 Macbooks so far. And all 3 have had one of the speakers break. Am I just that unlucky?<p>Oh and yeah, what a diarrhea of a keyboard in the 2016 edition.

The one thing that caught my attention is that &quot;they keep deleting the issue we post&quot;. That is an evil thing to do.

Nice knowing that, in addition of three failing keys (u, i and o) and one failed speaker, I can also expect the display flex cable to fail. 2017 MBP that&#x27;s been plagued with problems from the very beginning.

The weirdest part of all of this is the recurrent problems of Apple products in peoples tech-life-time, and the same people, while annoyed, embrace it... and I just don&#x27;t get it.<p>If products fail on you consistently, why you keep buying them?<p>It&#x27;s 2019, there&#x27;s a lot of great products out there, with way more quality than some Apple products.<p>If the problem is the &quot;ecosystem&quot; you bought into, well maybe it was a mistake to begin with because it seems it&#x27;s not much of a balanced ecosystem - so maybe you should consider jumping out of it.<p>I know I&#x27;m biased because I&#x27;ve been a windows user all my life, and I&#x27;m not from USA where Apple reigns supreme and people communicate with each other via Apple products&#x2F;apps... but damn, is it really worth it? Because you&#x27;re being part of the problem, not part of the solution.

A classic Apple move. Then a year later, they will offer to &quot;fix&quot; the affected model with &quot;reasonable price&quot;, and people still have no choice but to go along with it.

I also never see much talk about the sharp edges of Macbook. It was a struggle for me when I got mine. But just yesterday I checked the 2018 model of a colleague. And the sharpness was even worse. More importantly the vents on the side and on the around the hinge were really bad. My skin was scrapped painfully if my hand dragged across it. I don&#x27;t know how one can use this safely without scratching one&#x27;s skin :(. I like a lot about the Macbook itself while I also hate some of their choices. But this package they put everything is in sharp, slippery, zero grip is simply beyond absurd for me. That&#x27;s not even talking about the repairability or making it so thin than it&#x27;s harder to grip.<p>They have solved a lot of the tough problem of quality manufacturing and set a price for themselves to allow it profitability. That&#x27;s the big thing. The problems Macbook has I feel are not about lack of engineering skill. It&#x27;s completely about designer ego and fleecing the customers.

I regret not buying a stash of 2012 Macbook Pros and hoarding them for my own use.<p><i></i>Edit: And iPhone SEs as well

Bad news: Apple takes us for fools, again. this sucks.<p>Good news: many businesses and influencers (iFixit, Louis Rossman, Linus Tech Tips ...) are talking about it. This is bad press for Apple. The more noise we make about these issues, the better the chances are that Apple improves on its flaws.<p>I&#x27;m not overly optimistic about it: spreading the word about Apple&#x27;s bad habits might be useless. But trying and failing is in my opinion better than not trying at all : at best, Apple makes better product ; At worst, they just keep on doing what they&#x27;re doing.

Still waiting for Apple to make anything anywhere as good as the Pismo was. I&#x27;ve had hardware issues of one kind or another with every single laptop from them since then.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;PowerBook_G3#PowerBook_(FireWire,_Pismo)" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;PowerBook_G3#PowerBook_(FireWi...</a>

The display in my MacBook Pro 2017 just died recently. It was flickering for a week and then went all black (almost), except for a small line of pixels.<p>Together with the double-insert problem when hitting the space key, it’s really total garbage.

Environmental certifications should include repairability.

The 2018 keyboard is much more robust than the earilier ones. In 8 months I haven’t had to replace it at all (though I am close). I actually don’t mind the feel, just want it to work.<p>And the Touch Bar...if I could just disable the hypersensitive virtual escape key (I use caps lock for that) it would be perfect...all else can be disabled but not that botch, for some reason.<p>I guess I still use it because I find the alternatives even worse. Could be Apple Stockholm syndrome.

Is there any signal that they are going to introduce a better keyboard?<p>I just can&#x27;t grow to like the current ones.

That&#x27;s the company that removed strain relievers from all their cabling with the very intention of making them break easier.<p>What did you people expect?

Last years there are many fuckups with pro models.

Interesting. This stage light effect also affects my 2007 mbpro which is two generous old. It did take about seven years to develop, but it seems that it&#x27;s been an issue possibly on past models also that has just gotten worse with the latest thin design.

I paid for AppleCare and Apple fixed my keyboard twice and replaced my display for free. No questions asked.<p>The counter-argument is that such an expensive machine should not fail.<p>Hardware suffers from wear-and-tear. My upfront investment for AppleCare more than paid for itself.

Eventually Apple will make a disposable $3000 Mac and everyone will love it ...

Cook is a supply chain guy.