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Death metal music inspires joy not violence

172 点作者 TsukiZombina大约 6 年前

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RickS大约 6 年前
Great to see research coming to a conclusion I think most metalheads intuitively know.<p>I love walls of sound, I love intensity that feels like it takes a surplus of cognitive bandwidth (ADHD) and gives it a little bit of resistance to tug against, almost like those various rubber stress toys. I think most metal fans hear lyrical gruesomeness as something between fantasy and a cause for more empathy than anything else. And let&#x27;s be real, a lot of it is flat out unintelligible. It&#x27;s an aesthetic.<p>Most of the metalheads I know are absolute teddybears. I listen to some pretty heavy stuff (see links), but the other day I cried at a dog video, and recently had to turn off the police scanner at the mention of a particularly sad crime. Mosh pits look scary but there&#x27;s a shared ethical framework. Injuries happen, but they&#x27;re almost never due to malice. Somebody falls down, you pick em up. Bigger people stomp around keeping the peace and returning lost shoes, aha. It&#x27;s bounded, consensual violence – just like a martial art.<p>Exceptions exist – there are church burners and skinheads, but they tend to cluster in their own sects and you don&#x27;t get mixed up with them accidentally.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;E9z-Tipz5JQ?t=40" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;E9z-Tipz5JQ?t=40</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;Y037ZIKckIY" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;Y037ZIKckIY</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;9YkSki1qbLA" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;9YkSki1qbLA</a>
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YeGoblynQueenne大约 6 年前
That&#x27;s <i>death</i> metal though. Other forms of extreme metal can have lyrics that, far from toying with splatter-gore themes for the shock value, express terminally anti-social politics.<p>I&#x27;m thinking of black. Sometimes I&#x27;m just happy that a few of the bands I listen to sing in Swedish or Norwegian etc that I don&#x27;t understand, so that I can&#x27;t tell what they&#x27;re singing about. Although the imagery can often give a bit of a hint, rather.<p>To make it absolutely clear in case people don&#x27;t know what I&#x27;m talking about: there is a clear trend of black bands that are downright neonazis. By no means all, or even I think a majority, but they are right there.
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grawprog大约 6 年前
Makes sense. The people at every death metal show I&#x27;ve been are always pretty happy and friendly. Even in most mosh pits people look out for eachother and will help somebody up who falls or help someone who gets hurt out of the mass of people. It&#x27;s always been positivr, even the show I split my head open on someone else&#x27;s head(accidently) we both just laughed about it, then after someone told me my face was covered in blood me and my buddy went to go get me some stitches. Good times.
wyred大约 6 年前
The timing of this article feels like it was written in response to Singapore banning a Swedish black metal band from performing at the very last minute.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.channelnewsasia.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;singapore&#x2F;watain-black-metal-concert-cancelled-singapore-11320738" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.channelnewsasia.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;singapore&#x2F;watain-black-...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.channelnewsasia.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;singapore&#x2F;watain-concert-mha-consulted-before-classification-imda-11334674" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.channelnewsasia.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;singapore&#x2F;watain-concer...</a>
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somlor大约 6 年前
Some recent favs:<p>- <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=w5eQuhBfDE0" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=w5eQuhBfDE0</a><p>- <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=uHlZA5OYj2I" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=uHlZA5OYj2I</a><p>- <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=1WeeMHq3I3Y" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=1WeeMHq3I3Y</a><p>- <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=bsFM7kj0RII" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=bsFM7kj0RII</a><p>- <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=6ekRLVXIIpw" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=6ekRLVXIIpw</a><p>- <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=wlFeOy-I2MY" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=wlFeOy-I2MY</a><p>- <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=87Qqk_wNFOk" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=87Qqk_wNFOk</a>
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cletus大约 6 年前
So here&#x27;s a thought that just occurred to me.<p>For context, I&#x27;ve never understood death metal or anything in that realm. The screaming in particular... but I realize that&#x27;s just my personal preference. No judgment intended. Just opinion, not objective fact.<p>So only recently I discovered the ASMR phenomenon. And it seems like ~10% of the population (estimated) get a particular response to those sounds.<p>Other commenters here talk about a &quot;wall of intensity&quot; and things in that realm. What if metal appreciation is the same way as ASMR? By this I mean, what if you just have a predisposition to the sound intensity?<p>Just a question. I have no answers. This might be ridiculous. I have no idea.
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inamberclad大约 6 年前
No kidding. Since everyone is posting their favorites it seems, here&#x27;s one of mine: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=WMRKBz89uRQ" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=WMRKBz89uRQ</a>
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pazimzadeh大约 6 年前
&gt; &quot;We used &#x27;Happy&#x27; by Pharrell Williams as a [comparison],&quot; said Dr Sun.<p>Could it be that the listeners were simply tired of hearing an overplayed song (Happy) to the point that even death metal was refreshing?<p>An obscure song should be compared to another obscure song.
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renholder大约 6 年前
Just to note: Some death-metal bands have positive lyrics[0,1]... (Though, whether they can <i>really</i> be called a death metal band is possibly a point of contention.)<p>[0] - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;lk2-bgwA0Ro" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;lk2-bgwA0Ro</a><p>[1] - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;Nh10gL_GP_w" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;Nh10gL_GP_w</a>
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_bxg1大约 6 年前
&gt; We used &#x27;Happy&#x27; by Pharrell Williams as a [comparison]<p>&gt; I didn&#x27;t personally write them, but I would be frankly astounded if anyone listened to that song and then felt a desire to be eaten by a cannibal<p>If anything, &quot;Happy&quot; by Pharrell Williams is more likely to make me want to be eaten by a cannibal.
taurath大约 6 年前
Key takeaway: music is not about what it looks like on the cover. It can also be a way to shield yourself from the people you&#x27;re trying to get away from, and a way to differentiate yourself. Almost every one of the ultra-kind but non-mainstream people I know who are into outwardly weird or off-putting (anti-mainstream) stuff are into the culture community for the boundaries they provide. Juggalos are about the community, metalheads are about the community, otakus are about the community, furries are about the community.
BadassFractal大约 6 年前
Metal music is cathartic the same way a movie, a videogame, a book or a theater performance are.<p>You experience intensity, highs and lows, tension and release. You expose yourself to a harsh emotional rollercoaster, to digging deep into one&#x27;s psyche, and come out on the other end hopefully invigorated and refreshed.<p>If metal music inspires violence, so do the Odyssey, Star Wars, Othello and many many others.
cyberjunkie大约 6 年前
They (We) are pretty nice people. We&#x27;re rational, scientifically inclined, reasonable, and empathetic. We&#x27;re responsible for our actions, since we don&#x27;t have any mystical ideology or supernatural deities to fall back on.<p>A vast majority of the music we listen mocks stereotypes, oppression, points out to hypocrisy, the real violence and aggression shown by the &#x27;normal&#x27; masses.<p>We have cleaner track records. Some of us will dress up to appear aggressive and immoral, but we know you have pitchforks and judgments that you&#x27;re waiting to hurl at us.
skibz大约 6 年前
A notable case of people being profiled as violent due to their taste in metal music is the Robin Hood Hills murders [1].<p>1: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Paradise_Lost:_The_Child_Murders_at_Robin_Hood_Hills" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Paradise_Lost:_The_Child_Murde...</a><p>EDIT:<p>The children that were prosecuted also raised eyebrows because of their philosophical interests in LaVeyan Satanism (which is absolutely not what most people would probably assume it to be)
aasasd大约 6 年前
I&#x27;d like to see a study like this done on members of the Norwegian black metal scene from the early 90s. Because I still can&#x27;t figure out what the burnings and stuff were about (aside from paganism, I guess), and “TROO” metalheads sound pretty crazy even compared to all the other ‘alternative’ culture aficionados.<p>But generally, of course, this experiment seems like just one bit of a proper comprehensive study.
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leroy_masochist大约 6 年前
Literally any Cannibal Corpse song would have been better for this study than literally any Bloodbath song.
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2dollars27cents大约 6 年前
Not metalcore but the punk&#x2F;hardcore album Joy as an Act of Resistance by Idles embodies this.
henearkr大约 6 年前
Now I&#x27;d definetely love this kind of study for Hip-Hop. I feel like the results (about decoupling between lyrics&#x27; violence and listeners&#x2F;bands&#x27; feelings) would be utterly different.
ralusek大约 6 年前
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peterwwillis大约 6 年前
When I&#x27;m in a particularly bad mood, I&#x27;m always calmed down by hardcore punk, thrash, and metal. I&#x27;ve always assumed it was an audible form of letting off steam.
hi5eyes大约 6 年前
party death metal is very joyous<p>Party Cannon Bong Hit Hospitalisation - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=Eki2SNegxIE" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=Eki2SNegxIE</a><p>KILLITOROUS &#x2F;&#x2F; IT&#x27;S NOT STANLEY, IT&#x27;S STAN LEE - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=YflBqKgLyks" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=YflBqKgLyks</a><p>technical party dm
rajangdavis大约 6 年前
This brings me great joy:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;T6mUmTDJAME" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;T6mUmTDJAME</a>
mar77i大约 6 年前
And in tomorrow&#x27;s news: videogames are fun...
vbuwivbiu大约 6 年前
everyone knows metalheads are lovely people
ddrdrck_大约 6 年前
Next clickbait title : &quot;BDSM inspires joy not violence&quot;. Then replace BDSM with RPG, FPS ...
minikites大约 6 年前
How does that square with <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.telegraph.co.uk&#x2F;science&#x2F;2018&#x2F;04&#x2F;04&#x2F;young-heavy-metal-fans-five-times-likely-self-harm-attempt-suicide&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.telegraph.co.uk&#x2F;science&#x2F;2018&#x2F;04&#x2F;04&#x2F;young-heavy-m...</a>
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