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Understanding the Stellar Consensus Protocol

154 点作者 synesso大约 6 年前

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1053r大约 6 年前
The authors of this protocol made a valiant effort to defend against sybil attacks by requiring intersecting quorums. However, it&#x27;s not clear to me that they succeeded. Specifically, I worry that they are depending on people running nodes to vet other nodes in some out of band fashion. Clever and patient sybil attackers could insert themselves into the network over weeks or months, and then disrupt it while shorting it on exchanges, or by conducting double spend attacks against exchanges.<p>As was shown in Bitshares, which relied on holders of BTS to vote on &quot;good&quot; block producers, users can not be relied upon to make these judgements. They will either vote at random, or vote based on trivial stats like uptime. The holders of BTS ultimately paid the price when the creators of the coin forced through a proposal to increase the supply cap and the price collapsed as a result, but the creators have since moved on to other coins.<p>It seems to me that proof of work works, and proof of stake (as implemented in Tezos) may work, although it&#x27;s not been running successfully for very long. I&#x27;m very suspicious of other consensus algorithms protecting billions of $s worth of assets.
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agorabinary大约 6 年前
Who cares? The vast majority of Stellar&#x27;s currency XLM is owned by the founders just like Ripple, and their efforts to distribute this currency to the public are entirely disingenuous. For example, their 2017 airdrop purported to distribute up to 16% of the initial XLM to Bitcoin holders, while less than 10% of that amount was actually claimed (as to be expected when you make people jump through hoops to claim something of dubious value).<p>The crypto space has an near-infinite supply of new coins and new whitepapers to trap the naturally curious into a hopeless cycle.
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drexlspivey大约 6 年前
Good discussion on an old thread between D.Mazieres (protocol author), Greg Maxwell and Vitalik <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=9342348" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=9342348</a>
badrabbit大约 6 年前
The one thing I am curious about is the idea of reputation establishment. Has there been any attempt to reduce impact of a sybil attack by introducing reputation metrics?<p>What if for example with SCP quorum slices form only between nodes of agreeable reputation where reputation could either be transaction confirmation history or transaction participation history or some combination of both.<p>I would argue,if some form f reputation metric was in play,a simple 51% majority (for unfederated) would not mean much,especially if each node gets to unilaterally decide reputation metrics it finds agreeable which will make it hard for a sybil attacker to know how many nodes of what reputation it needa to control to succeed.where a failed sybil attack could reduce or eliminate reputation of the nodes it used.<p>The whole idea is so simple I feel a bit cluelees even asking about it,but does anyone know if similar consensus systems have been explored?
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jimmcslim大约 6 年前
I&#x27;m reading Charlie Stross&#x27;s (cstross here) &quot;Neptune&#x27;s Brood&quot; at the moment, which envisions an interstellar society constrained by physics (i.e. no FTL)... I can imagine the SCP would play a role in such a society perhaps!
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