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US to build six nuclear power plants in India

272 点作者 sandwall大约 6 年前

25 条评论

niftich大约 6 年前
India has an intricate history with nuclear technology. Both the Soviet Union and the US courted India in the 1950s, but in the end it was Canada who donated a design for the first Indian reactor that came online in the 1960s. The US assisted with building another. Indian testing of nuclear weapons in the 1970s drew a sharp rebuke from several countries and the US and Canada withdrew their assistance. This also resulted in the creation of the Nuclear Suppliers Group, an export control regime to prevent nuclear proliferation. Cut off from exporters of nuclear technology, they slowly continued with domestic designs and new research. But their tremendous size and influence made them an attractive partner in geopolitical power plays.<p>In 1988 the Soviet Union and India announced they would build two new reactors, and the US fiercely protested at the time. The Soviet Union fell apart, and the Russians didn&#x27;t resume the project for another 10 years, but construction eventually began in 2002. In 2006 the US and India reached an agreement to cooperate and the US lobbied for an exemption for India from the Nuclear Suppliers Group, which was granted. It quickly became obvious that everyone wanted a slice of the Indian nuclear energy market.<p>Disregarding climate change for a moment, it&#x27;s clear that the energy demand in India is increasing, and despite a rapid rise in the deployment of renewables, utility-scale generation is still 75% coal. This contributes greatly to pollution. Local coal lower quality than elsewhere, requiring more per unit of power. Nuclear will be an important complement to renewables as the energy mix slowly migrates off of coal. Unlike the US, which is awash in cheap natural gas that&#x27;s readily stored and piped where needed, helping to even out the mismatch between solar generation and demand, India has very little natural gas, so it can&#x27;t afford to pursue a strategy that deemphasizes nuclear energy.
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elsonrodriguez大约 6 年前
&gt; India plans to triple its nuclear capacity by 2024 to wean Asia&#x27;s third-largest economy off polluting fossil fuels.<p>One has to admire the no-nonsense problem solving happening here.
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throwawaysea大约 6 年前
I count 45 planned reactors and 12 reactors currently under construction in China at <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;List_of_nuclear_reactors#China" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;List_of_nuclear_reactors#China</a><p>Somehow the two under construction in the US (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Vogtle_Electric_Generating_Plant" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Vogtle_Electric_Generating_Pla...</a>) are estimated to cost $25B and are complicated by Westinghouse having declared bankruptcy. Others (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Virgil_C._Summer_Nuclear_Generating_Station#Units_2_and_3" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Virgil_C._Summer_Nuclear_Gener...</a>) have been cancelled.<p>The same AP1000 reactor model was installed at <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Sanmen_Nuclear_Power_Station" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Sanmen_Nuclear_Power_Station</a> at a cost of just $6b, although they were also 4 years late in becoming operational. But it does seem like other countries are capable of getting these large projects done while they whither and drag out in the US.
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fmajid大约 6 年前
Big mistake. The US nuclear industry is a wreck because of the lack of standardization and economies of scale, unlike, say, France.<p>India should also be investing in thorium reactors given its indigenous reserves and the inherent safety advantages.<p>Another issue is cooling: water supplies in Andhra Pradesh are highly erratic, and this will only get worse with global warming.
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kumarm大约 6 年前
This is great new not just from environment perspective. This is a move that significantly reduces dirty politicians influence in India.<p>Guess who is awarded most of new Power Generation plants in India since private sector started building power plants? It almost entirely politicians and their family members.<p>Example (Owned by Member of Parliament Galla Jayadev&#x27;s Family) : <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Amara_Raja_Group" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Amara_Raja_Group</a>
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khuey大约 6 年前
Meanwhile in the US SCE&amp;G abandoned their two under construction AP1000s after Westinghouse went bankrupt and the remaining two that Southern is building at Vogtle are on life support. The only AP1000s actually operating are in China.
jwr大约 6 年前
Finally something that helps us avoid the beginning climate catastrophe. Nuclear power is of the very few effective means of working towards that goal.
i_am_proteus大约 6 年前
&gt; The two countries have been discussing the supply of US nuclear reactors to India, the world&#x27;s third-biggest buyer of oil, for more than a decade.<p>I doubt that any nuclear capacity will significantly affect India&#x27;s oil consumption. Nuclear typically displaces coal or gas.
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gdy大约 6 年前
Here is an article about how Russia dealt with India&#x27;s civil nuclear liability law. Perhaps, something similar was agreed for American reactors.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.powermag.com&#x2F;indias-nuclear-liability-law-breakthrough-for-russia-stalemate-endures-for-u-s&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.powermag.com&#x2F;indias-nuclear-liability-law-breakt...</a>
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thisisit大约 6 年前
In the meantime Solar Power is one of the fastest growing industries in India. Government is targeting 100GW by 2022:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Solar_power_in_India" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Solar_power_in_India</a><p>India&#x27;s history with nuclear power plants hasn&#x27;t exactly been great. Kudankulam Nuclear Power Plant faced tons of protests:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Kudankulam_Nuclear_Power_Plant" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Kudankulam_Nuclear_Power_Pla...</a>
blackflame7000大约 6 年前
Nuclear power gets a bad rap. Instead of abandoning the technology we should be focusing on how to safely contain a meltdown. I mean if we use boron control rods to absorb the neutrons, then why not encase the whole thing in a boron tomb that vacuum seals when radiation is detected?
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logfromblammo大约 6 年前
I&#x27;m starting to get the feeling that all terrestrial energy generation should ultimately come from sunlight, and our nuclear reactors should be out in space, and on other celestial bodies, especially those further away from the sun.<p>But in order to do that, we need to further develop nuclear reactor technology by building utility-scale nuclear energy plants here on Earth--not because we need our energy to be nuclear, but because we need our nuclear energy to be reliable and efficient.<p>The cynical part of me is thinking that the US can apparently build nuclear plants anywhere on Earth except in the US.
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sabareesh大约 6 年前
India undoubtedly become power hungry, when I was visiting couple of years back power cut has become a norm which i don&#x27;t remember when I grew up. There are so many wind mill installation around my hometown but at the same time there is so much opposition for nuclear power. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;media-cdn.tripadvisor.com&#x2F;media&#x2F;photo-s&#x2F;0f&#x2F;a1&#x2F;06&#x2F;fa&#x2F;the-sky-the-clouds-the.jpg" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;media-cdn.tripadvisor.com&#x2F;media&#x2F;photo-s&#x2F;0f&#x2F;a1&#x2F;06&#x2F;fa&#x2F;...</a>
KorematsuFred大约 6 年前
While Afganistan is called the graveyard of empires, India is where emperors face their first miserable defeat.<p>There is a book titled &quot;Confessions of an economic Hitman&quot;. The book is written by an ex-CIA agent to was an economist and would write a lot of fake reports claiming developing nations can grow much faster only if they invest heavily in infrastructure. Then US would generously offer loans in return of assurance that the contracts will be awarded only to American companies. Fe decades down the line those countries would be left holding the can and debt. This model failed miserably for USA in India because India&#x27; growth story after 1990s turned out of be true, India&#x27;s hunger for infra actually grew. Enron who had a weird misadventure in India eventually had to file for bankruptcy.<p>While I am happy that India is tripling the nuclear energy capability I am unhappy that American companies are involved. It might end up badly for Indian but more than likely to Americans.
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RickJWagner大约 6 年前
I wish the US would build six new (clean, safe) nuclear plants in the US.
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Krasnol大约 6 年前
Let&#x27;s hope they got their waste management figured out<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;publicintegrity.org&#x2F;national-security&#x2F;indias-nuclear-industry-pours-its-wastes-into-a-river-of-death-and-disease&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;publicintegrity.org&#x2F;national-security&#x2F;indias-nuclear...</a>
tracker1大约 6 年前
Could we get 6 new reactors in the US?<p>I&#x27;m actually serious... I don&#x27;t get why we still have coal power plants at all. I know there are various risks involved, and disposal is another, but a lot of lessons have been learned and there&#x27;s a lot of room here for this. It&#x27;s just incredible that a couple of movies could set back nuclear power in the US for as many decades as has happened.
Torwald大约 6 年前
Can somebody explain to me what happens with all the nuclear waste? How is nuclear power anything else but an environmental catastrophe waiting to happen? We pile the waste on and on, how do we deal with that?
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kp666大约 6 年前
What happens to the liability act?
known大约 6 年前
I wish all civilian nuclear power plants operate under UN <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Build%E2%80%93operate%E2%80%93transfer" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Build%E2%80%93operate%E2%80%...</a>
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bargl大约 6 年前
I wonder what types of reactors they&#x27;ll be building. I&#x27;ve recently heard of Thorium reactors (and I don&#x27;t understand enough about them) but I&#x27;d love to see them start spinning up around the world to see if they actually are as good as they seem.
ahamedirshad123大约 6 年前
Hope they don&#x27;t built it in Tamil Nadu. We already have two.
thecybernerd大约 6 年前
This is exciting I wonder if Westinghouse will ever use some of the technology that Transatomic developed.
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matthewfelgate大约 6 年前
Hopefully nuclear power can help India grow more greenly and catch up economically with China.
sureshn大约 6 年前
India is the key ally to all developed countries in the western world, be it the Rafael Deal for fighter aircrafts to other countries like Israel agreeing to setup defence manufacturing in India all are keen to be engaged with India. US especially after Trump became president has been very much Pro India as opposed to Obama who was definitely anti-india and Pro Pakistan, If the US has to tame china it needs India , these geo political equations I believe favours India and that is why you see all these things happening now