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San Franciscans raise $46,000 to stop homeless shelter in wealthy area

45 点作者 ar0大约 6 年前

10 条评论

oppositelock大约 6 年前
We&#x27;re heading for a showdown in San Francisco between the homeless and residents.<p>For those of you not from this area, it&#x27;d be hard to believe just how bad the SF homeless situation really is, and how it&#x27;s tied to drug use and mental illness.<p>SF has a lot of resources for homeless people, so functional homeless folks who want help can get it. Shelters and low income housing up and down the peninsula don&#x27;t allow drug use, don&#x27;t allow people with criminal records, and some don&#x27;t allow men. Cold weather shelters make exceptions, but those are very temporary. Those conditions exclude a lot of the homeless who would like to use them. Then, you have the issue of the homeless who are heavy drug users, mentally ill, or simply don&#x27;t want to be in a shelter. These three groups are most of the homeless you see in the streets. San Francisco (and San Jose&#x27;s) big homeless problems are exacerbated by the fact that peninsula cities crack down on homeless people by buying a bus ticket to SF or SJ, whichever is cheaper, and police escorting them to the bus.<p>So, as someone who&#x27;s lived in the area for over twenty years, I&#x27;m sick of San Francisco&#x27;s lack of action on this problem. On one side you have shelters, but on the flip side is utter lack of enforcement of loitering, since being on public land isn&#x27;t illegal. These people need help, rehab, or even institutionalization, but you can&#x27;t force that, and nobody&#x27;s willing to pay for it. It&#x27;s a mess, and the more money SF throws at homeless people in the form of food, shelters, and safe injection sites, the more homeless people it &quot;hires&quot; from abroad.<p>edit: That article is disingenuous. The homeless on the streets of SF are not due to displacement by tech, though I&#x27;m sure that contributes. They come from all over for the perks. The weather is mild, food is available, police turn a blind eye to minor crimes and shooting heroin on Market street, so as far as being homeless goes, it&#x27;s not the worst place to be.
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conroy大约 6 年前
NIMBYism in its purest form.<p>Navigation Centers are far more than homeless shelters. They take people in as they are (pets, belongings, partners, etc.) and provide on-site services. Unlike traditional shelters, occupants are not forced back on the streets in the morning just to wait in line for a bed that night.<p>I have one in my neighborhood. I took a tour with a few other neighbors last year. I can’t imagine how you can argue that it would be better for the people I saw to be living outside on the streets.<p>Every district in San Francisco should have at least one Navigation Center.
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justboxing大约 6 年前
The headline is click-baity and tailored to create outrage.<p>If you don&#x27;t live here, you probably don&#x27;t know that the Embarcadero area is, as the article says, right by the bay bridge. Heavily tourist-y area. The &quot;wealthy people&quot; of San Francisco actually live a mile or so away, in Russian Hill, Pacific Heights, Lake District (by Bakers Beach) etc. Embarcadero is also right by the FiDi &#x2F; downtown area where Salesforce, Affirm, BlackRock, Lending Club and several other startups and major Corps have offices. So it&#x27;s also a safety concern for the workers in downtown as the homeless population in SF is generally more aggressive than in the rest of the country.<p>A lot of homeless people in San Francisco also are drug users. It&#x27;s not common to walk in downtown and step on a used needle. So building the housing in the downtown, touristy area is only going to deter people from coming to San Francisco, and deter companies from holding their conventions[1]. There&#x27;s already 1 such example of a major medical convention cancelled from Moscone cos they were concerned with safety of their attendees due to homeless person crimes. That area has a lot of homeless people around there, many of who are quite aggressive, mentally ill etc.<p>This is not a case of NIMBY. It&#x27;s far more complex than that.<p>I&#x27;m just calling it as I see it.<p>[1] Major medical group cancels San Francisco convention due to safety concerns =&gt; <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sf.curbed.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;7&#x2F;3&#x2F;17531240&#x2F;convention-moscone-center-homeless-crime" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sf.curbed.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;7&#x2F;3&#x2F;17531240&#x2F;convention-moscone-c...</a>
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valleyjo大约 6 年前
I find a lot of criticism and hate of homeless people in our tech world. Which I kind of don’t get because a lot of tech people are quite liberal. I would expect a softer heart to follow as well as concern for these (and all) people.
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pbreit大约 6 年前
Unpopular opinion: there are a lot of other locations than the heart of the SF waterfront.
purplezooey大约 6 年前
<i>...the father of a two-year-old who lives two blocks from the proposed site ... against the project out of concerns for his family’s safety.</i><p>&quot;Family safety&quot; has to be the most overused euphemism for &quot;property values&quot;.
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RickJWagner大约 6 年前
I am truly surprised by what&#x27;s happened to San Francisco.<p>It will be interesting to see how it unfolds. I imagine the city will either find a way to return to greatness or descend into further dystopia. Which will it be? How will it be accomplished? Truly amazing.
jancsika大约 6 年前
I&#x27;d love to see someone with social media skills ramp up a campaign in &quot;solidarity&quot; with these residents and &quot;help&quot; them hit 10x their stated goal.
SamReidHughes大约 6 年前
Makes sense. One of my personal rules is to only give money to the homeless in other people&#x27;s neighborhoods.
mnm1大约 6 年前
Absolutely disgusting. How can someone be so cruel as to spend money to stop a project meant to help people and save people&#x27;s lives? It&#x27;s just unbelievable how cruel and nasty people with even a little money can be towards others. There should be a way for state governments to counter such nimby actions when it&#x27;s in the best interests of society. This also includes local zoning and all the other stupid nimby shit that makes the bay area unlivable.
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