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I let a stranger watch me work for a day and I've never been more productive

290 点作者 johnshades大约 6 年前

54 条评论

StaticRedux大约 6 年前
Now do that for a month. Or even a week. You may be more productive bc you don&#x27;t want to be seen as slacking off with someone watching, but maintaining that kind of pace is untenable. Did you ever get stuck and check your email or Facebook just to give your brain a little break? Did you ever sit, unsure of your next move? Or did you do the first thing you thought of, even if it was wrong, so you didn&#x27;t look like you were wasting time?<p>Intense productivity with someone looking over your shoulder is great for a day. After a week you&#x27;ll want to quit. After a month you&#x27;ll want to kill yourself.
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myth2018大约 6 年前
Procrastination has destroyed my life.<p>Three years ago I finally achieved my dream of working from home. I was writing my thesis and believed I could finish my masters in 8 months. I decided to fully focus on it and, afterwards, I would create my long dreamed own software company.<p>It worked really well for some weeks. I was much more focused than I used to be working in regular offices, with bosses. But soon I started getting distracted with amateur radio, social media, couch and TV and so on.<p>Then I couldn&#x27;t concentrate on anything anymore. After almost a year I had finished only half of my thesis. I started to feel desperate because I hadn&#x27;t even started my company, and my savings were being burned day after day. This contributed to further drops in my productivity and concentration.<p>I finished my masters 14 months past what I initially imagined. And I eventually had almost no energy left to work on my products. I sporadically had some boosts in productivity and managed to get something done. But I wasn&#x27;t able to commit to plans anymore. I was always getting stuck. And my money going away.<p>My life-worth savings are basically depleted now, I have no wife anymore and I feel pretty bad and alone.<p>Coincidentally, yesterday I started to work on a co-working space. That new atmosphere helped me significantly and I hope it keeps this way for some time at least.<p>Good to know about Focusmate and alikes. I will definitely try them if my productivity drops again.
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systemizer大约 6 年前
Anybody else get an immediately negative visceral reaction from this? If I&#x27;m understanding this correctly, the aim is to manipulate our sense of shame&#x2F;guilt to boost productivity.<p>After sitting with the feeling for a bit, here are some ideas that come to mind:<p>1. Maybe we should ask why we feel shame&#x2F;guilt in the first place. Is it &quot;normal&quot; to feel this? If it isn&#x27;t we should not rely on it for our happiness (or productivity).<p>2. What is the value of productivity? Why does it make us happy?<p>For me, guilt&#x2F;shame is something to be overcome, not used as a tool. And the value of productivity is something that has been handed down to us by a culture which we&#x27;ve been thrown into. And (at least for me), it&#x27;s our duty to question these ideas instead of merely giving into them to self-reinforce themselves.
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BurningFrog大约 6 年前
My first month of pair programming was utterly exhausting, but once I got into the pace, it was the best thing I&#x27;ve ever done.<p>The mutual focus is definitely a big part. You&#x27;re in a social context, and there is no place to stray from the mutual task, and that discipline is very liberating, weird as it may sound, for someone prone to procrastinating like myself.
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perl4ever大约 6 年前
I used to think that the sense of &quot;having to look over my shoulder&quot; with all the productivity monitoring going on was what made me miserable at work. But I&#x27;m now in a different environment, and it has been revealed to me that the issue I had was not at all what I thought. The problem was that I was formerly employed to do technical stuff and all of the administrative work was just piled on as extra stuff, theoretically required, but all metrics involved the actual technical work. Now I have a job that is <i>just</i> administrative, and anything involving programming is extra. Now that mentally I am in the mode of doing administrative work as my <i>real</i> job, it no longer seems like a burden to be doing it every minute of the day, and accounting for every minute, and I don&#x27;t even mind having my phone turned off all day so I don&#x27;t spend any time goofing off.<p>What I&#x27;m saying is that the agonizing thing for me was the contradiction, the equivocation between saying &quot;you&#x27;re employed to program, etc., but you also have to do all this stuff that interrupts your thought process, but we don&#x27;t really care how you cope with it...&quot;<p>Now that my <i>primary</i> task is the administrative stuff (working with project managers), suddenly it doesn&#x27;t hurt! I&#x27;m being compensated and valued for doing it. Any programming I may do is extra.
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coldtea大约 6 年前
I particularly enjoyed the follow-up article &quot;I burnt out and lost my sanity&#x2F;health&#x2F;job&#x2F;gone to opioids&#x2F;alcoholism&#x2F;etc after pressured to maintain this &#x27;more productive&#x27; pace for months on end as if I&#x27;m a hamster on a wheel&quot;.
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Svoka大约 6 年前
Legends say that long ago outside of the bubble where people working constantly monitoring each others and there even was people who&#x27;s position was literally supervisors.<p>This is called &quot;office&quot;. Somehow absolute peak of my procrastination happened in those human filled dedicated work places with supervision, from bosses, peers and subordinates.
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arminiusreturns大约 6 年前
I hate this trend in management so much. I&#x27;m a combat vet with ptsd, and I&#x27;ve noticed companies more and more trying to do stupid open office layouts to save money and achieve this same result, but there are those of us it majorly negatively impacts our productivity in the medium to long term. Add on top that now instead of being able to think about a problem deeply, I get interrupted every 3 minutes by some adhoc query by those around me, so my thinking power feels hampered to the point it&#x27;s stressing me so bad it&#x27;s been aggravating my ptsd and I find myself wanting to drink and smoke.<p>Companies are digging their own grave with shit like this.
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Benjamin_Dobell大约 6 年前
I can&#x27;t really imagine a job in which someone is bothered to pay you to do work, but cares so little about the work you&#x27;re outputting that they don&#x27;t notice whether or not you&#x27;re working efficiently&#x2F;effectively.<p>I&#x27;ve worked from home full-time for just over 5 years now. I&#x27;m self-employed and answer to my client directly. I operate almost entirely autonomously and am given a heap of freedom, both tech-wise and with respect what hours I work. I&#x27;ve not once in 5 years reported my exact hours worked - but of course do report days off sick etc.<p>However, despite my client not being a developer (or overly technically inclined) I can assure you my client still notices if I&#x27;m being less productive than usual - which over the course of 5 years is somewhat inevitable e.g. when my daughter was born.<p>Actually, I find that not having someone knowing that I&#x27;m ticking over hours sitting at desk, hitting buttons, and making the screen flash, causes me to work more. For the last 5 years I&#x27;ve consistently worked more hours than I ever did in an office environment, not by a small margin either.<p>Sometimes you just don&#x27;t feel &quot;switched on&quot;, but if you&#x27;re working in an office you&#x27;re still tallying up hours. However, if I&#x27;m not totally switched on, I somewhat subconsciously know I need to work longer in the afternoon&#x2F;evening. This is simply because I feel pressure (am motivated) to live up to the standards I&#x27;ve established with my client. I must add though, that my client is absolutely fantastic, any perceived pressure is almost entirely self-inflicted.<p>If anything, I need to start setting firm boundaries so that I work less. This means I need to start considering those less productive &quot;hours worked&quot; as genuine hours worked, just as I would if was working in an office.
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gist大约 6 年前
Hawthorne Effect:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Hawthorne_effect" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Hawthorne_effect</a><p>In short iirc at first they thought the changes they were making was what caused the increase in productivity but then they found out that the people worked harder because they were being observed and felt special.
throwaway66666大约 6 年前
That&#x27;s cute. But did you consider hiring a stranger from craigslist to slap you everytime you access facebook?<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=4661940" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=4661940</a><p>Or perhaps testing websites... drunk? I love and loath these articles. They are the equivalent of &quot;and you won&#x27;t believe what this madlad did!!!!&quot; of hackernews.
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Mirioron大约 6 年前
That&#x27;s interesting and I have no doubt it works. However, I think that you might simply get used to the pressure and start procrastinating either on the service itself or simply procrastinating using in the service.<p>The other problem is that any kind of outside force that pushes you to work harder also creates stress. This stress isn&#x27;t entirely regulated by yourself and it&#x27;s possible for it to backfire.
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mwfunk大约 6 年前
I don&#x27;t doubt it in the short term, but I fear these are the sorts of articles that give people one more reason to want to stick their employees in open offices.<p>The usual excuses presented to employees are handwavey things like &quot;collaboration&quot; and &quot;teamwork&quot;, but the excuses presented to other managers can also involve things like &quot;employees are more likely to feel self-conscious from visibility, and less likely to slack off&quot;. Even that&#x27;s just scrounging for some excuse other than cutting corners to save money.
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mlthoughts2018大约 6 年前
The article is just wrong. Social pressure makes you less productive and hampers cognitive health while working.<p>I can’t believe anyone even feels this is worth discussing or disagreeing. From the mountains of evidence refuting the communication conditions of open plan offices, we know that knowledge workers require privacy to be productive.<p>The case is closed. This essay is arguing against the tide. Move on.
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graeme大约 6 年前
Tangentially related: is there any sort of dashboard service that would let me create a dashboard showing things like:<p>* email inbox count (differentiated by email inbox)<p>* unmoderated comment queue on website<p>* Facebook unread message count. Similar ones for other social media inboxes<p>* and maybe some custom metrics or ones triggered by a spreadsheet or todoist or something<p>I think this would be immensely useful for my own purposes, in seeing where I wasn’t on top of things. But also useful for sharing with someone else and being accountable. Would allow analysis too, such as eliminating a certain inbox entirely, or delegating some sections, etc
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louwrentius大约 6 年前
I don&#x27;t like working from home. Working from home feels lonely and dead-end to me. I&#x27;d rather have a commute and sit in an open office plan, despite all the obvious drawbacks.<p>Also, I&#x27;ve recently realised what makes me productive as fuck:<p>Pressure.
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Rainymood大约 6 年前
I had some time between my graduation and my job and I streamed some software development on Twitch, I don&#x27;t think I had that much fun and was never so productive when others were watching me. It&#x27;s such a weird effect but when someone is watching you your whole behavior changes ... and for me, in a good way. I&#x27;m naturally kind of lazy so this was really awesome.
ZhuanXia大约 6 年前
We used to do this on LessWrong back in the day; people would write or study math in a video chat room. It was surprisingly effective.
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telesilla大约 6 年前
I&#x27;m a member of a private online pomodoro group, every 30 minutes or so the bell dings and we all chat, if we want, for a few minutes then get back to work. Those who want to show their cam do, but mostly we don&#x27;t and we tend to talk about the tasks we are doing and how it&#x27;s going. It&#x27;s informal and geared towards independence but with enough communication that I don&#x27;t feel I&#x27;m isolated. I think it&#x27;s a much better balance than having some panopticon-inspired structure enforcing productivity through embarrassment.
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ilaksh大约 6 年前
I have worked from home as a software engineer for almost all contracts for the last 7+ years and would like to mention how it is for me.<p>The key point from this article to me is &quot;just telling someone I was going to do something made me get it done&quot;.<p>So what keeps me on track is that I discuss with the client every week or few days what it tasks I should to try to complete. This is based on his priorities for requirements and the technical issues that I know about. Usually there are one or two primary tasks and one or two secondary that I honestly say may not get completed.<p>Every 1-3 weeks usually one or more of these items is something concrete that is supposed to show up in a computer program or report that the client will actually see or touch.<p>So for there is usually already an accountability structure. It&#x27;s just not someone looking over my shoulder constantly.<p>I have actually worked on Upwork or whatever they call it with the constant screenshot of what you are doing. To be honest, in a way that does make you productive. However it also makes life more stressful. And I feel like I would prioritize more poorly because I didn&#x27;t want to look idle so rather than doing a hard task that might require more thinking or googling or something, I might be more inclined to tackle easier tasks that would make things seem more productive from the screenshots. Overall there was just a constant distraction of wondering what people would think if they reviewed the session. I would never willingly choose to work like that again.<p>When I don&#x27;t actually have someone looking over my shoulder I honestly do spend somewhat more time on non-work items. However, it seems like my this is automatically limited by the needs of the task items which I will be reporting on to my client in a few days or a week. And even on days when I am getting distracted, I put my main energy into my tasks until they are completed.<p>The idea of absolutely constant supervision during work only really makes sense when there is no trust or real respect for the worker and no other way to have accountability. I am worried that this type of article or service may reinforce management&#x27;s tendencies to not respect or trust workers and want constant proof of total productivity from the wage slaves.
miki123211大约 6 年前
I wonder if live streaming your work to the whole internet, potentially allowing others to comment, i.e. to help you to spot mistakes along the way, would also work. This wouldn&#x27;t be applicable to everything, but for open source side projects or open companies like GitLab, that could be amazing. It would also be extremely valuable for other people, particularly in junior positions, as they could see how other people work, that they&#x27;re not omnipotent, they make misteaks and sometimes get stuck too.
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travisjungroth大约 6 年前
I&#x27;m excited to try this. I do my best thinking alone but work best with someone watching. I know some people can&#x27;t perform even basic tasks with someone watching, but for me, it&#x27;s easier and sometimes even necessary. If I&#x27;m stuck coding I&#x27;ll imagine explaining it to someone (or ask someone to do it with me). If I can&#x27;t nail a movement in the gym, I&#x27;ll pretend to demo it.
novarek大约 6 年前
I see it as a version of telling people something you&#x27;re trying to do so you feel more pressure to do it, a classic trick to force yourself to start habits.<p>This sounds a bit extreme though, and I&#x27;m not sure if it actually reinforces the bad habit of needing someone watching you in order to do any work.
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jaytaylor大约 6 年前
Related reading about focus and folks on the autism spectrum: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.eurekalert.org&#x2F;pub_releases&#x2F;2019-04&#x2F;uoe-abq040519.php" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.eurekalert.org&#x2F;pub_releases&#x2F;2019-04&#x2F;uoe-abq04051...</a>
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ww520大约 6 年前
What I found work surprisingly well is to sit in a cafe with my back to busy foot traffic. There&#x27;re lots of transient strangers passing by behind with the potential of seeing my screen. In that case, I cannot really goof off, like browsing ycombinator.
_bxg1大约 6 年前
I wouldn&#x27;t want to work remote full-time, but that&#x27;s because of the isolation, not a lack of productivity. When I do work from home now I&#x27;m far more productive than in the office. I can sit back and think about problems from a higher-level perspective without that constant itch to feel like I&#x27;m looking busy. Of course, the reason I don&#x27;t get distracted is that I&#x27;m fortunate enough to enjoy my job, and I realize that doesn&#x27;t apply to everybody.<p>Still, when I was freelancing I dealt with a significant amount of loneliness, such that I now actually enjoy the buzz of a workplace, so I could see using a service like this if I worked from home constantly.
code_duck大约 6 年前
I’ve had experiences like this with glassblowing. When I have an interested observer, such as a student, I often get enthusiastic and make several pieces in a row and use a wider variety of techniques.<p>Also, many glassblowers work while hanging out together on video chat.
luckylion大约 6 年前
Is it necessary to have an actual live video feed with an actual person that you&#x27;ve talked to before, or can you just have a video of a person that occasionally glances up to look at the camera?<p>Committing to (and reviewing afterwards) what you want to accomplish does somewhat work for me. Ultraworking work cycles [1] are based on that by making you write down what you&#x27;ll work on, how you&#x27;ll start before each (short) session. When I really need a push to do something I don&#x27;t enjoy at all, this usually does the trick.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ultraworking.com&#x2F;cycles" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ultraworking.com&#x2F;cycles</a>
djcapelis大约 6 年前
This seems to be one of the major drivers for some folks who do pair programming.
SN76477大约 6 年前
I had a remote team for years. Opposite schedules etc didn’t allow for a lot of FaceTime.<p>I used some desktop recording software and recorded myself daily with instructions on how to execute various tasks.<p>Through out this process I would be talking and narrating the task explaining this or that while doing the work.<p>Sometimes I would end up finishing the task and just delete the video, I would be really focused and prefixes when making the videos it always felt a bit weird.<p>Thinking back there were even a few times I would record myself just in efforts to get something specific done.
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wopeipeipei大约 6 年前
I let my boss watch me work for a day and I’ve never been more productive
imhoguy大约 6 年前
There is a bunch of freelance&#x2F;contract companies who screenshot your screen and webcam every couple of minutes and record mouse&#x2F;keboard activity constantly, then after every week they validate the number of hours you spinned and that makes your paycheck.<p>Maybe this is ok for some line work but not for more complex problems wher you need to discus or brainstorm things. My friend who is dev&#x2F;architect quit such job after year with severe burnout. Hourly compensation was very good though.
pyman大约 6 年前
Focusmate has nothing to do with pair programming. It&#x27;s used by people who work remotely and don&#x27;t have the benefits of working in an open plan environment.<p>The problem lies in how focusmate and pair programming are implemented.<p>Inexperienced dev managers, who have little or none knowledge of XP, use these techniques to micro-manage developers, making their life&#x27;s miserable.
swozey大约 6 年前
I wonder if this writer has ever tried a Pomodoro technique. If I force myself to use that entire 20-25 minutes and work the entire time with some planning on what to focus on directly before hitting the button I find myself hyper-focused for that duration and knock a lot out; if I&#x27;m not interrupted by the surrounding zoo of the open office.
tessmann大约 6 年前
Well in China they do that with cameras see if students are focusing on the classroom. I think the feeling may be the same.
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reshie大约 6 年前
its not for the irresponsible or people who are not self motivators. if someone is like that work from home may not be for you though you may also not get to for in the office as well. there are still deadlines and communication usually though so there are external pressures.
ummonk大约 6 年前
If I had to work that hard continuously I’d probably quit and become a beggar instead or something. There are workaholics out there for whom this might be possible but it isn’t sustainable for most people.
crimsonalucard大约 6 年前
If you did this everyday with a new stranger you&#x27;d stop caring eventually.
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Animats大约 6 年前
Now you know what foremen do.
bootcode大约 6 年前
I was always fascinated by some of the offices in Zurich having a large glass wall, with worker&#x27;s desks and computers next to them. Almost as if put on display, &quot;see we are working here&quot;.
nmg大约 6 年前
cut rate freelancer here. whenever i feel blocked, i bring my laptop to Starbucks and situate myself with my back to the room. without thinking about it, I&#x27;m automatically more productive. it&#x27;s not for show, just having my screen be public knowledge liberates me to not impulsively check aggregator or newspaper sites. Call it environmentally enforced focus. i gighly recommend it for anyone who works physically isolated from a team.
usaphp大约 6 年前
It’s like going to a running event. Sure you will run quicker than you usually do, but can you do it day in day out, like you do with your evening jogs?
nafey大约 6 年前
Once the novelty wears out and your subconscious processes that the stranger has no power over you I believe you will relapse into your old habits.
callcouncil大约 6 年前
Actually I’m testing this very idea out. Pay someone to watch you work. Get penalised if you don’t. Would anyone be interested in this?
etucktuck大约 6 年前
My go to when I’m feeling lazy is to imagine oh I’m something like the Truman show - this usually gets me into a higher gear
Warclimb大约 6 年前
I prefer to go live on youtube and monetize my handsome face
pnw_hazor大约 6 年前
Author might be even more productive if the watcher threatens to or inflicts pain on her if she begins to slow down.
a-saleh大约 6 年前
I remember @jessitron mentioning on twitter that streaming on twitch is helping her be more productive.
jakebaker大约 6 年前
I’ve used this service a lot. I’d be very happy to share answers to any questions people have.
kosei大约 6 年前
Only read part of the article because I got sucked into reading about Mike Myers and his comeback...
RickJWagner大约 6 年前
Crazy. I work from home and have no such problems. Once in a while I&#x27;ll have a day where I don&#x27;t feel motivated to do my &#x27;normal&#x27; tasks, on those days I try to self-educate on interesting new stuff.<p>I don&#x27;t feel the need for a virtual nanny.
thoughtstheseus大约 6 年前
Sounds effective but weird. Maybe just go to a coffee shop.
vbuwivbiu大约 6 年前
Why not wear a hair-shirt while you&#x27;re at it
ravenstine大约 6 年前
It&#x27;s as if idealistic kids inevitably grow up to believe the same things as their annoying &quot;butts in seats&quot; older bosses.