TE
科技回声
首页24小时热榜最新最佳问答展示工作
GitHubTwitter
首页

科技回声

基于 Next.js 构建的科技新闻平台,提供全球科技新闻和讨论内容。

GitHubTwitter

首页

首页最新最佳问答展示工作

资源链接

HackerNews API原版 HackerNewsNext.js

© 2025 科技回声. 版权所有。

Speedgate: World’s First Sport Generated by AI

210 点作者 Impossible大约 6 年前

30 条评论

minimaxir大约 6 年前
Per the embedded video (also used on the official site), they used textgenrnn (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;minimaxir&#x2F;textgenrnn" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;minimaxir&#x2F;textgenrnn</a>) to train the text-generating AI, which I made. Although I really wish they said that explicitly: not as a means of attribution, but to make the text generation more accessible&#x2F;transparent which is why I made textgenrnn in the first place.<p>GPT-2 would likely have much more <i>interesting</i> results on such longer input text. If anyone from AKQA reads this, I&#x27;m open to help setting that up.
评论 #19751925 未加载
sehugg大约 6 年前
Looks like they&#x27;re using Keras to generate random phrases, then winnowing them down to the best few, which they extrapolate into a functional sport rulebook with their human brains.<p>Could have probably done this with a Markov chain as well. &quot;apt-get install dadadodo&quot; for instance.
评论 #19752092 未加载
评论 #19752816 未加载
评论 #19751603 未加载
tsumnia大约 6 年前
Looking over the rules, it looks like there&#x27;s an assumed &quot;causal&quot;-ness to the game (not good, not bad, just noting there&#x27;s an assumption that everyone will play by the rules at all times). Based on the rules [1], there doesn&#x27;t seem to be any consequence to fouling if you do not have the ball. What stops a non-carrying team player from stepping in the center or tackling a player?<p>Given the current ruleset, nothing. Three fouls give you a demerit, three demerits give you a reprimand, 3 reprimands ... to infinity. Secondly, is there a difference in severity to stepping in the center vs. tackling?<p>I get that you could say that 2 fouls is a timeout, and certain rules carry higher penalties (1 for center stepping, 2 for tackling), but it is not written.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;playspeedgate.org&#x2F;8&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;playspeedgate.org&#x2F;8&#x2F;</a>
评论 #19751053 未加载
评论 #19755006 未加载
评论 #19751684 未加载
评论 #19751173 未加载
gwbas1c大约 6 年前
What I don&#x27;t get is: How much of this was created by AI, and how much is human intervention?<p>How does the AI judge what is a good game versus a bad game?
评论 #19751842 未加载
brian_herman__大约 6 年前
Sounds like Calvin ball <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gocomics.com&#x2F;calvinandhobbes&#x2F;1990&#x2F;05&#x2F;05" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gocomics.com&#x2F;calvinandhobbes&#x2F;1990&#x2F;05&#x2F;05</a>
评论 #19751132 未加载
linksnapzz大约 6 年前
Perhaps a better use of AI would be to flesh out a comprehensive rulebook for playing 43-man Squamish. <i>Someone</i> needs to figure out what the Probate Judge &amp; Baggage Smasher are supposed to do if it rains...<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.madcoversite.com&#x2F;quiz_olympics.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.madcoversite.com&#x2F;quiz_olympics.html</a>
评论 #19754118 未加载
kosievdmerwe大约 6 年前
I&#x27;m not entirely sure what the restrictions on the defenders are (other than having to return to their half after their team scores), but there&#x27;s an exploit I can see already:<p>&gt; Only 1 defender is allowed in the end-gate circle at any time.<p>This says &quot;defender&quot;, which is a role. So forwards would be allowed to bolster the gate&#x27;s defense, which might make sense given the possession mechanic.<p>The lack of tackling and rules about passing direction, with body blocking allowed, means that huddling a few players together and creeping up might be a viable strategy that the defending team can&#x27;t really counter. It would be a valid strategy in Rugby too (where you&#x27;re only allowed to tackle the ball carrier), were it not for rules against obstructing tacklers.<p>This kind of turtling strategy seems contrary to the nature of the game, so if effective it would need nerfing&#x2F;banning.
评论 #19753112 未加载
nsxwolf大约 6 年前
Looks like a game where you get kicked in the face a lot.
gknoy大约 6 年前
The rules [0] are presented pretty nicely. This looks like a lot of fun for twelve players.<p>0: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;playspeedgate.org&#x2F;5&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;playspeedgate.org&#x2F;5&#x2F;</a>
chrisco255大约 6 年前
What I couldn&#x27;t quite grasp from the rules is how the center-gate works. Do you have to pass or kick the ball through the center gate to get to the other side or are you allowed to go around the center gate? Also, does the ball have to be kicked through the end gates on the ground or can you punt it right over? Seems like it might be hard to judge whether a goal was made since you can come at it from so many angles, if you&#x27;re allowed to kick as high as you want.<p>Reminds me more of Aussie Rules Football than Rugby, to be honest, but sans tackling.
评论 #19750768 未加载
everdev大约 6 年前
Here&#x27;s the sports official site: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;playspeedgate.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;playspeedgate.org&#x2F;</a>
exabrial大约 6 年前
&gt; or an exploding Frisbee game<p>I&#x27;m intrigued.
dugluak大约 6 年前
They picked rules from almost all kinds of sports in the world but did they have that kind of diversity in the &#x27;human fine tuning&#x27; piece of it? Otherwise I guess the end result is going to be bit biased.
mcphage大约 6 年前
&gt; trained a recurrent neural network and a deep convolutional generative adversarial network on over 400 sports with the aim of creating a new and original sport.<p>Did they share anywhere what their training data looked like?
评论 #19750711 未加载
lukeholder大约 6 年前
Looks a lot like Australian Rules Football (AFL) without the tackling.
评论 #19752980 未加载
评论 #19752861 未加载
hokkos大约 6 年前
So a &quot;the ocho&quot; generator. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;theocho&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;theocho&#x2F;</a>
TaupeRanger大约 6 年前
Yet another &quot;look what we did with AI&quot; hype piece where all they did was hand pick some output and mash it together to make something intelligible. Silly nonsense.
jonplackett大约 6 年前
Would have been more interesting if they’d also used an AI to play each game and see how that turns out. Does the game have a simple always-win strategy? If so that games is gonna be pretty dull to play and watch.
machbio大约 6 年前
there seems to be no analysis on why the size and dimension of the ball is chosen - very few games have balls that are not spherical.. seems too much human intervention in generating the Sport
评论 #19751682 未加载
mbell大约 6 年前
This doesn&#x27;t seem particularly viable as a &#x27;sport&#x27;, i.e. an athletic competition, but maybe fun as a group activity. e.g. You have 3 defenders that seem to be allowed to camp without restriction a 6&#x27; tall, 10&#x27; wide &#x27;goal&#x27;. Put 3 athletes on this duty and no one will ever score.
评论 #19751081 未加载
评论 #19752013 未加载
评论 #19751061 未加载
dariusj18大约 6 年前
Does the extra goal make it a total of 3 or 5 points for the possession?
评论 #19751077 未加载
hwestiii大约 6 年前
I always thought Quidditch sounded like it had been developed by an AI.
dugluak大约 6 年前
Is the background music in the video also AI generated?
评论 #19751711 未加载
themdonuts大约 6 年前
Seems like they invented Gaelic Football
RosanaAnaDana大约 6 年前
Well that promo video was utterly uninformative. How do you play; is it fun?
评论 #19752601 未加载
soperj大约 6 年前
Basically just rugby with some nets and goalies.
评论 #19751218 未加载
评论 #19750588 未加载
评论 #19751028 未加载
评论 #19750571 未加载
pulse7大约 6 年前
It is some kind of rugby...
shpx大约 6 年前
What would the equivalent of the Cloud to Butt extension for &quot;AI&quot; be? I get annoyed every time I see this word now and I&#x27;d like to alleviate that.
评论 #19755163 未加载
评论 #19753400 未加载
评论 #19752844 未加载
评论 #19752410 未加载
评论 #19754014 未加载
评论 #19752243 未加载
quotha大约 6 年前
Are you sure this wasn&#x27;t created by Homer Simpson?
emgee_1大约 6 年前
I am interested if you start selling onions or tomatoes on the internet. &#x2F;s