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Boeing waited until after Lion Air crash to tell Southwest safety alert was off

91 点作者 magtux大约 6 年前

11 条评论

RankingMember大约 6 年前
For anyone interested in an insider&#x27;s perspective on recent quality issues at Boeing, check out this short New York Times podcast wherein they interview whistleblowers.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2019&#x2F;04&#x2F;23&#x2F;podcasts&#x2F;the-daily&#x2F;boeing-dreamliner-charleston.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2019&#x2F;04&#x2F;23&#x2F;podcasts&#x2F;the-daily&#x2F;boeing...</a><p>The excerpt that stands out to me the most related the story of one of the whistleblowers finding pieces of debris within a 787 aircraft (between the passenger compartment and the skin), telling his supervisor, and then being told not to worry about it. In another case, a whistleblower in charge of defective inventory found that some of the items marked defective were going missing and ending up installed on aircraft to meet production goals rather than wait for a proper replacement, the red paint marking them defective having been clumsily rubbed off.
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simion314大约 6 年前
As I commented in previous articles here on HN, the chance that there are other subsystems that were rushed and self-approved by Boeing is not zero, people thinking that fixing the MCAS is enough are forgetting to consider that other components had to be updated for the new design.
mhandley大约 6 年前
And it&#x27;s recently emerged that the AoA sensor misread itself may have been Boeing&#x27;s fault, and due to foreign object damage to wiring:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;interestingengineering.com&#x2F;boeing-whistleblowers-report-more-737-max-8-problems-to-faa" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;interestingengineering.com&#x2F;boeing-whistleblowers-rep...</a><p>Boeing also has foreign object damage problems on the 787 and on the KC46 tankers. Looks like this story still has a long way to run.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2019&#x2F;04&#x2F;20&#x2F;business&#x2F;boeing-dreamliner-production-problems.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2019&#x2F;04&#x2F;20&#x2F;business&#x2F;boeing-dreamline...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.seattletimes.com&#x2F;business&#x2F;boeing-aerospace&#x2F;u-s-air-force-again-halts-delivery-of-boeings-tanker-over-debris&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.seattletimes.com&#x2F;business&#x2F;boeing-aerospace&#x2F;u-s-a...</a>
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porpoisemonkey大约 6 年前
I&#x27;ve recently contacted all of the major airlines that fly the 737 Max as well as my congressional representatives and the FAA to let them know I have serious reservations about a software fix to the aircraft.<p>If this issue is concerning to you I&#x27;d recommend you do the same. To make it easier, I&#x27;ve put the links to all the contact sites below.<p>United Airlines <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.united.com&#x2F;ual&#x2F;en&#x2F;us&#x2F;customer&#x2F;customercare" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.united.com&#x2F;ual&#x2F;en&#x2F;us&#x2F;customer&#x2F;customercare</a><p>Southwest Airlines <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.southwest.com&#x2F;contact-us&#x2F;contact-us.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.southwest.com&#x2F;contact-us&#x2F;contact-us.html</a><p>American Airlines <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.aa.com&#x2F;contact&#x2F;forms?topic=CR#&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.aa.com&#x2F;contact&#x2F;forms?topic=CR#&#x2F;</a><p>Find your Congressional representatives <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.house.gov&#x2F;representatives&#x2F;find-your-representative" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.house.gov&#x2F;representatives&#x2F;find-your-representati...</a><p>FAA <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hotline.faa.gov&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hotline.faa.gov&#x2F;</a>
magtux大约 6 年前
I always had great respect for aerospace and thought they&#x27;d put safety above all else but seeing all this, Boeing seems like a fucking travesty.
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gdubs大约 6 年前
If I recall from earlier reporting, this is the safety light that Southwest paid extra to have installed, right?
jbarberu大约 6 年前
I don&#x27;t fly very often, but being in the midst of booking flights I&#x27;m very thankful for websites having filters by airplane type. I&#x27;ll be paying the additional 10-20% to not set foot on a Boeing this time.
larrik大约 6 年前
Wow, I&#x27;d be surprised if some young congressperson doesn&#x27;t make their career by publicly eviscerating Boeing soon.
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karlkatzke大约 6 年前
&quot;If it&#x27;s boeing I ain&#x27;t going&quot;
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gthtjtkt大约 6 年前
This is pretty disturbing and makes me far more confident in my decision to never set foot on a Boeing airplane again.<p>I thought the American airlines had all opted for the AoA disagree light, but now it sounds like Southwest didn&#x27;t have it because Boeing lied to them and said it was standard.
agumonkey大约 6 年前
very timely, AvE just made a teardown of an AOAS <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=NhZ0D-JRtz0" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=NhZ0D-JRtz0</a>