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L.A.’s Elite on Edge as Prosecutors Pursue More Parents in Admissions Scandal

202 点作者 petethomas大约 6 年前

14 条评论

ForrestN大约 6 年前
I&#x27;m surprised that this scandal doesn&#x27;t seem to be causing anyone to think one step further and realize that the entire premise of &quot;elite&quot; colleges with competitive admissions is a device for the perpetuation of inequality. We&#x27;re devoting most of our advanced educational resources to helping people who would already be successful reap even more rewards.<p>I understand the idea of meritocracy in fields with life or death urgency—maybe we should be as selective as possible to make sure we&#x27;re finding the best scientists or whatever. But the idea that Harvard is using its hideously huge tax-deductible endowment to teach rich people&#x27;s children to do high frequency trading is far more scandalous than these marginal cases of bribery.<p>As a society, we should not be devoting so many resources to helping the best-positioned kids succeed to the exclusion of kids starting with less advantage.
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olliej大约 6 年前
I feel like the solution here is to not bribe your children&#x27;s way into school.<p>If your children aren&#x27;t academically talented and you don&#x27;t have the money to publicly buy a building for the school you should accept that and just let them live off your money and power as is traditional.
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cletus大约 6 年前
Honestly, I really don&#x27;t understand the motivations for some of these parents. Take Lori Loughlin. $500,000? For USC? For two daughters, one of whom clearly isn&#x27;t that interested, isn&#x27;t particularly academic and isn&#x27;t particularly athletic? Like... why?<p>I can understand if someone bribes their kid into, say, Harvard or Yale Law School. There&#x27;s a career where going to a good school matters. But this? It just makes no sense to me.<p>Felicity Huffman may end up being sentenced to 10 months in jail (and, let&#x27;s face it, might serve only 5) but, still, that&#x27;s a big deal for someone who probably never expected to go to jail. It&#x27;s also on the lighter end because of her guilty plea and cooperation with the prosecution. What are these parents who have plead not guilty going to get when they&#x27;re found guilty?<p>Add to this the children have to live with the stigma of these actions. I don&#x27;t have a huge amount of sympathy here because at least some of them were complicit. Posing for photos faking crew, that sort of thing. But still... why would you want to risk your children having to live with that... to go to USC?
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Blackthorn大约 6 年前
They&#x27;re not that elite if they&#x27;re gonna get ensnared in this one. If you&#x27;re one of the elite you just donate a building, which is a completely legal way to get your kids into a school of your choice.
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darawk大约 6 年前
The actual problem here is not the bribery. The problem is that those bribes are being captured by random 3rd parties, rather than by the school itself. The correct way to implement college admissions is this: Charge a sliding scale fee based on application quality, and then use the excess revenue generated to subsidize poor kids tuition. Your kid has a 2.5 GPA and wants to go to Harvard? Great, that&#x27;ll be a million dollars a year. You&#x27;ll be funding the tuition of 20-30 kids of lesser means and everybody wins.
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munk-a大约 6 年前
While we&#x27;re all angry at this bribery program, can we please also be angry at legacy admissions? Far more kids skate in on legacy than bribes and the school doesn&#x27;t even get a nice bit of cash for those sorts of admissions.
tedivm大约 6 年前
That&#x27;s really fantastic news.
yingw787大约 6 年前
I think this is a really good opportunity to see just how white-collar fraud falls in line with rational choice theory (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Rational_choice_theory_(criminology)" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Rational_choice_theory_(crimin...</a>).<p>In the quoted article, Felicity Huffman pleaded guilty to pay a college counselor $15,000 to arrange cheating on an SAT test. Hence, one data point on the market price for cheating, as agreed upon by Ms. Huffman and college counselor, is $15,000. One claim about Ms. Huffman&#x27;s net worth is that she earns $275,000 per episode of &quot;Desperate Housewives&quot;, which airs weekly. This fine is about half a day&#x27;s work for her, if that. For half a day&#x27;s worth of work, she can doctor her daughter&#x27;s SAT scores. This is assuming that the episodes aren&#x27;t recorded at once and take much less time than one week for filming, freeing up time to invest in other income streams. So cheating in this case is a very rational thing to do, given zero cost for broken morals or ethics.<p>The only real &quot;hard-power&quot; argument I can think of for children who may inherit great wealth to gain intelligence is to avoid a run-around by the family lawyers after Mom and Dad croak. But even then, that doesn&#x27;t take a whole lot of intelligence (Donald Trump is smart enough to avoid that fate), and it kind of doesn&#x27;t make sense for a family lawyer to do that anyways. If the kids are stupid and can&#x27;t manage their money, just charge more in fees instead of rocking the boat in order to pocket a greater portion of the pie.<p>Crime does pay, if we don&#x27;t punish it. That&#x27;s why people do it. It&#x27;s especially true in white-collar crime.
basicplus2大约 6 年前
They should do something on the lines that politicians do in Australia.. property developers slip a property into a trust and slip that trust into the polys superfund as a contribution
rhegart大约 6 年前
Affirmative action on one side, cheaters on the other. At least a dozen people cheated on the SAT in my school and had the audacity to brag about it.<p>Financial aid if you poor, paid for if you rich. Middle class honest kids hurt the most. Had top 1% scores, no ivies or UCLA for me (got UCB at least) and I’m Asian. My little cousin, same scores and rejected from UCSC 10 years later...much worse now than before
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yeahitslikethat大约 6 年前
What is criminal about this? I never heard of someone going to jail for cheating on an SAT test.<p>And why aren&#x27;t the admissions boards going to jail for accepting the bribes?
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thrower123大约 6 年前
You dumb fucks, didn&#x27;t you know that you could just spend a little more, buy a building, and be assured of your kids getting in forever?<p>The number of Faheys, Wheelocks, Wheelocks and Fairchilds I went to college with is stupid.
pauljurczak大约 6 年前
Excellent!
baggy_trough大约 6 年前
2 years in jail for this is absurd. A week would be more than enough.
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