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Denver voters consider next frontier in decriminalizing drugs: magic mushrooms

190 点作者 petethomas大约 6 年前

19 条评论

dpflan大约 6 年前
If you want to see some more comments and discussion, check out this HN post from 3 months ago.<p>&gt; <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=19069200" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=19069200</a><p>Interested in seeing what discussion emerges this time!
samcday大约 6 年前
&quot;I’m a different guy. I’m fun to be around. Once I couldn’t even cry. Now I can.&quot;<p>This really punched me in the feels.<p>It also sucks that Justin preferred not to share his last name for fear of retribution for possessing some fungus that occurs naturally in the wild.<p>Kinda reminds me of the veterans in the US who have been trying to lobby the VA to stop being jerks about cannabis. They say it helps with their PTSD. Currently we don&#x27;t have a lot of scientific certainty on whether it actually <i>does</i> help or not because of the lack of research. But even putting that aside, it&#x27;s still kinda absurd that we dictate which naturally growing plants people are allowed to possess &#x2F; cultivate &#x2F; smoke &#x2F; ingest &#x2F; whatever.
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pier25大约 6 年前
People who know nothing about drugs always put all psychoactive substances into the same basket which is a tremendous mistake.<p>Psilocybin (the psychedelic compound in magic mushrooms) is non addictive, has many health benefits, and huge potential for personal growth. Much like ayahuasca, I very much doubt people would abuse magic mushrooms recreatively like they do with cocaine, or even alcohol.
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hirundo大约 6 年前
Fresh magic mushrooms have been effectively legal in nearby New Mexico for 14 years, since a 2005 Court of Appeals ruling. This doesn&#x27;t seem to have caused an appreciable rise in magic mushroom drug culture, or problems with abuse. I would expect the same result in Denver: pretty much nothing.<p>Weird how taking that same fresh mushroom and sticking it in a dehydrator converts it into a felony to posses.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.abqjournal.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;state&#x2F;apmush06-15-05.htm" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.abqjournal.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;state&#x2F;apmush06-15-05.htm</a>
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chiefalchemist大约 6 年前
Sidebar -<p>God bless the LA Times for getting the terminology correct. Keyword: &quot;decriminalize&quot;. My temper is max&#x27;ed out on the mainstream media saying &quot;legalize&quot; (mainly when reporting on pot), as if Uncle Sam and the federal level laws suddenly disappeared.<p>For all intents and purposes &quot;legalized&quot; qualifies as fake news. It is intentionally misleading. And if it&#x27;s negligence, that&#x27;s not any better.
techntoke大约 6 年前
Magic mushrooms and other entheogens have amazing potential, but also a lot of risks. Ketamine clinics are already a thing. I think a lower dose (microdose) prescription makes sense for certain people. Anything more, will probably require additional planning and supervision.
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Theodores大约 6 年前
Magic mushrooms were a freely available crop of sorts when I was a student. I went picking them one day with a bunch of friends. This was enlightening.<p>First of all there is being outside in the countryside with a group of friends, roaming the hillside. If the pressures of assignments are getting to you this is a welcome change of scene. Particularly if there is some &#x27;rave style&#x27; party that this expedition is in preparation for.<p>Next there was the challenge to one&#x27;s perceptions about finding the things. Initially it looks like a hopeless task. But you find one, then you find another and soon you get to be very good at seeing the things.<p>From a very small age we get told that wild mushrooms are going to kill you. So how do you know that you are picking the magic ones and not the ones that will be as deadly as getting bitten by a snake?<p>But, you don&#x27;t end up picking the wrong ones, they are all good.<p>Coupled with that is the other things that can get you - creepy crawlies, bugs that you can&#x27;t see, that sort of stuff. Again, not a problem in reality.<p>There is obviously proof in the pudding, however, before getting as far as tasting some slimy mushroom brew heavily flavoured with something like Ribena you have accomplished at least three things that you can feel good about - physical exercise, having a laugh with friends and doing something that you thought was beyond you in just collecting the things.<p>So I think that this legalisation thing should insist on a &#x27;trip&#x27; each time, a trip outdoors to do all of the prep. No commercialisation of the product (selling the things to people who don&#x27;t do the outdoors bit). A great time can be had, and going outdoors to pick some other herbs, e.g. some rosemary or some chives, is never going to be anywhere near as fun.<p>Keep it recreational and spirits will be lifted. This privately - non sociable, non-recreational - partaking of the active ingredient on one&#x27;s lonesome just isn&#x27;t going to hit the mark in quite the same way. Might as well micro-dose alcohol at home alone (half bottle of wine with a meal, every night) if that is the approach. This is alcoholism, which contrasts with alcohol enjoyed out and about in socially engaging experiences.<p>I fear Denver are well meaning but going to get this wrong.
village-idiot大约 6 年前
One of the interesting sociological aspects of humanity is that mountain people by and large don’t want to be told what to do. It’s why escaped slaves for centuries have fled to mountainous regions, and why alpine states have been among the first to reject federal rules around marijuana.<p>Psychologically, it appears that introverts prefer mountains and forests, while extroverts prefer plains and beaches.
0n0n0m0uz大约 6 年前
We should all congratulate drugs for winning the war.
willio58大约 6 年前
Great. Mushrooms have been a great influence in my life, and I recommend them to anyone with a little introspection who feels a lack of perspective in life.
nerdkid93大约 6 年前
This is interesting. I read an article a few years ago talking about how further research into the active compounds in magic mushrooms might lead to breakthroughs in Alzheimer&#x27;s and other neural degeneration diseases.
beepboopbeep大约 6 年前
I&#x27;m happy to see that the usual comments of &quot;I remember tripping at a festival&#x2F;college and it was rad!&quot; Are being replaced by medicinal based commentary.
caprese大约 6 年前
just because the dialogue is open right now, here is something about a different drug: I would like to see the government do something about fentanyl, people across all socioeconomic classes are dying and they wouldn&#x27;t be if they knew what they were consuming.<p>&quot;RIP everyone has their demons&quot; really doesn&#x27;t accurately describe that &quot;someone laced their cocaine with fentanyl&quot;<p>testing kits exist, but a regulated purchase would fix this
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robmiller大约 6 年前
This has been a fascinating decade or so watching the children of the 60&#x27;s make their way into positions of senior governance&#x2F;policymaking.
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mkoryak大约 6 年前
What is the difference between decriminalization and legalization in this context?
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dpflan大约 6 年前
Could this move help get mushrooms into research in Colorado? Like this recent move by Imperial College London&#x27;s Centre for Psychedelics Research (not decrim, but research)<p>&gt; <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=19756067" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=19756067</a><p>&gt; <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.imperial.ac.uk&#x2F;news&#x2F;190994&#x2F;imperial-launches-worlds-first-centre-psychedelics&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.imperial.ac.uk&#x2F;news&#x2F;190994&#x2F;imperial-launches-wor...</a>
Causality1大约 6 年前
Good. Even if there were no benefits at all, there is zero constitutional justification for the government outlawing a private citizen from growing and consuming anything she or he pleases.
kingkawn大约 6 年前
Even if the outcomes of drug use are undesirable the criminal justice system is not the way to mitigate them.
YeahSureWhyNot大约 6 年前
progressive societies are building high speed train networks and clean energy farms while american public is busy discussing which bathroom transgenders should use and legalizing drugs while consuming 3x more products and producing 10x more trash than world average.
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