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Exercises to craft an employer brand that makes engineers want to work for you

45 点作者 leeny大约 6 年前

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granshaw大约 6 年前
Seeing a pattern here on Engineers just calling it as it is, and wanting employers to do so too.<p>It ain&#x27;t gonna happen - its the same thing as in PR-speak where a company will deny wrongdoing, speak in platitudes, etc, even when everyone and their dog knows what the real story is.<p>Engineers will just need to do their own due dilligence and find out through other avenues what the culture and working conditions are really like - I think this is just the reality of corporate culture. There are very real and tangible benefits of being employed and having a stable month-to-month paycheck, instead of striking out on your own, and the sooner everyone just accepts these annoyances and moves on with life, the sooner they can concentrate on the things that really matter.<p>Basically, don&#x27;t hate the players, hate the game.
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avgDev大约 6 年前
Honestly, I just want to work for a company that is honest, it does not have to be the most exciting work, as long as hours are flexible and at least some remote work is offered.<p>I&#x27;m tired of recruiters try to hype up the company. If employer said, &quot;Our product is not exciting but we offer great benefits, you just have to put in 30-35 hours a week, come to few meetings and meet reasonable deadlines that we agreed upon&quot; I&#x27;m sold. I don&#x27;t need ping pong table. I want decent salary, decent benefits and kind&#x2F;honest coworkers.
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jaden大约 6 年前
&gt; we found that brand strength didn’t matter at all when it came to either whether the candidate wanted to move forward or how excited the candidate was to work at the company<p>This quote came as a surprise.
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bitwize大约 6 年前
If you want to hire and retain good engineering talent, try communicating (honestly) that you provide them private or semi-private work space, state of the art tools, their choice of editor&#x2F;OS where applicable, and don&#x27;t railroad them constantly with rigid adherence to this or that process methodology nor expect them to work crunch hours (except maybe in very rare circumstances). That&#x27;ll get you more payoff per unit effort than tailoring your marketing pitch.
JohnFen大约 6 年前
A company that worries about &quot;how to craft a brand&quot; that appeals to engineers automatically falls a few notches in my estimation.<p>I want to work for a company that does interesting things, provides good support for engineers, behaves in a responsible fashion, and treats their employees well. Branding is irrelevant.
andbberger大约 6 年前
Alright come on. If you want your engineers to pour their souls into your dumb startup, you need to align their incentives with yours.<p>There&#x27;s a very simple way to do that: give them ownership<p>Otherwise, why should I care? I don&#x27;t get paid a single cent more for coming in and kicking ass everyday vs. just showing up and phoning it in.
pnathan大约 6 年前
Aline says good things here - as always - but I want to note that an overly groomed company or one where many of the employees are pushing the company&#x27;s job openings starts to feel really bogus.<p>In other words, if you take this too far, it becomes obviously painted on and, to use an old word, the recruiters become &quot;posers&quot;.<p>But if you earnestly take her advice, I think that it&#x27;s a good write up. Honestly talk about your unique point as a company. Who you are. Why you are. What you uniquely do. No BS. I maximize my corporate BS sensor when I&#x27;m job hunting.
thrower123大约 6 年前
Pay good money. Moreover, provide meaningful raises as experience and expertise increases, and in line with the external job market. Don&#x27;t hire in new hires above the salaries of your experienced employees that have to then train and babysit the new folks for six months to a year and clean up their messes.<p>Provide a private workspace (ideally private offices) where your knowledge workers can do their job without distraction. Don&#x27;t cheap out on equipment and tooling and learning materials - it&#x27;s moronic to quibble about buying an SSD or a monitor or a piece of software or a book that costs a couple of hours of your employee&#x27;s hourly rate.<p>Provide clear direction, without micromanagement or silly infantile circle-time processes. Don&#x27;t engage in ad-hoc walking-around status checks, don&#x27;t demand immediate responses to asynchronous communications. Don&#x27;t waste time in superfluous meetings.<p>Don&#x27;t vacillate or chase after every customer request. When one of your employees says that something is unwise, and provides solid reasons, listen, and don&#x27;t go around them to find a stooge who will obey your whims and slag in a big pile of technical debt.<p>Don&#x27;t try to push any culty workplace culture stuff. Treat your employees like the highly paid professionals they are. Respect their time and other obligations.
danielvinson大约 6 年前
If somebody wants to work for me and really, honestly, cares if our tech stack is new and fancy (as opposed to practical&#x2F;easy to maintain&#x2F;easy to hire for), that is a HUGE red flag that they are going to leave after a few years or suggest major technology changes that are not in the best interest of the company.
asark大约 6 年前
1) Remote.<p>2) Money.<p>3) Demonstrate that you have half a clue how to run a project.<p>4) BONUS ROUND: No hours-long puzzle-question-memorization interview bullshit if you&#x27;re not paying FAANG money and providing FAANG levels of résumé prestige.
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gwbas1c大约 6 年前
One thing that needs to be added:<p>Job descriptions need to state where the job is, and&#x2F;or if they allow telecommuting.<p>That&#x27;s the first thing I look for. Now that I have a two-income family, I will not move under any circumstances.
Jackson-Solway大约 6 年前
I can add a few things here. (I&#x27;m a cofounder at Job Portraits[1], an employer branding studio in SF.)<p>In our experience, successful employer brands turn on a startup&#x27;s willingness to be transparent. Everyone in the Bay Area (not just engineers) has a bloodhound&#x27;s nose for bullshit. I can&#x27;t overemphasize this—the norm is vicious, laugh-in-your-face skepticism.<p>Our best projects are with startups who get this, and the solution isn&#x27;t rocket science: you have to address your struggles.<p>Marketing teams are most likely to balk at revealing their company&#x27;s flaws, but what&#x27;s surprised us is how often technical leaders also refuse to address their team&#x27;s shortcomings. In part this is because technical folks are deeply skeptical of anything their recruiting teams want (that&#x27;s another story), but it&#x27;s also a function of embarrassment...or even outright shame.<p>The classic case is the eng leader at a small startup who was previously at a FAANG company. They&#x27;ve spent the last few years as part of a well-oiled machine—but now everything is broken! Processes aren&#x27;t just inefficient—they don&#x27;t exist! The mobile app doesn&#x27;t just suck—nobody knows how to fix it because that one guy who built it ditched for a FAANG job! (Oops.)<p>A huge part of our job, as an agency, is coaching leaders to see transparency as a competitive advantage. We say something like, &quot;This isn&#x27;t about confessing your sins. It&#x27;s about revealing challenges that the right engineers will be THRILLED to solve.&quot; It&#x27;s not that [thing] is broken; instead tell candidates that &quot;this is an opportunity to implement [thing] the way you&#x27;ve always wanted.&quot; It&#x27;s not that your failure to build [blah] is hurting the business; instead tell candidates to &quot;come build mission-critical infrastructure.&quot; And the more specific you are, the better.<p>This is a mindset shift more than anything, and when we&#x27;re able to pull it off it opens the door to an employer brand that candidates will trust.<p>Oh, and a quick note for any product marketing people who are reading this: Jobs are not products. You can&#x27;t return them to the store or ask for a refund. Every person your company hires is taking a huge gamble on you. If you only &#x27;put your best face forward&#x27; with an employer branding project, you risk emotional apocalypse if, during the person&#x27;s first 30 days, they realize they were misled by a rosy employer brand. Tread carefully!<p>As we like to say, assume your audience (candidates) is as smart, or smarter, than you are. Even if they don&#x27;t trust you, you need to trust them to self-select in—or self-select out—and the only way they can do that is with the truth.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.jobportraits.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.jobportraits.com&#x2F;</a>