Boeing Resisted Pilots’ Calls for Aggressive Steps on 737 Max

What people are forgetting is that Boeing did it all to head off competition from the E190 and Bombardier C-Series, both of which are smaller planes than the 737 but are bigger in terms of passenger comfort while being smaller in terms of noise and global warming impact.<p>Boeing discounted the 737 MAX by more than 70% to force Bombardier to sell the C-Series below cost, which forced Bombardier to sell a controlling share to Airbus for $0.<p>I rode in a E175 and was blown away by the passenger experience; the 2nd generation E-Jets are much better and the A220 is better still. Boeing hopes that you don&#x27;t ride in one and realize you don&#x27;t have to settle for a 737.<p>(Not like I trust Airbus with the A220, since they&#x27;ve got the same motivation to string the A320 along that Boeing has to string along the 737)

“You’ve got to understand that our commitment to safety is as great as yours,” Mr. Sinnett [Boeing Exec] said in the meeting. “The worst thing that can ever happen is a tragedy like this, and the even worse thing would be another one.”<p>But yet, even after the second crash Boeing still insisted they continue to fly the plane. It&#x27;s like they pre-determined their decision and any evidence or additional crashes be damned.<p>I don&#x27;t want to have too much hindsight though - if the AA pilots union really didn&#x27;t want to fly the plane, presumably the union could have chosen not to fly the plane (I think it&#x27;s in most pilots contracts?). In fact, even after Ethiopian crash, American pilots continued to fly the plane. Though part of this may have been because they didn&#x27;t have the full amount of information Boeing did.

Damning article for Boeing execs... just one quote:<p>“We don’t want to rush and do a crappy job of fixing the right things and we also don’t want to fix the wrong things,” Mr. Sinnett said, later adding, “For flight-critical software, I don’t think you want us to rush, rush it faster.”<p>Well Mr. Sinnett, that&#x27;s exactly what you did in the development of the 737 Max.

Hard to think of a better case study on the perils of regulatory capture than Boeing.

Actually, that statement,<p>&gt;&quot;For flight-critical software, I don’t think you want us to rush, rush it faster.”<p>may come back to haunt them, given it doesn&#x27;t line up with the paperwork they filed, or with anything about the way they tried to get the plane certified. The fact he said that before the investigation completed implies they knew how critical MCAS was.<p>Something tells me &quot;that was just talk!&quot;, will not go over well.<p>EDIT: deparaphrased quote.

How many FAA officials used to work at Boeing (or related lobbying firms) or vice versa?

So is Mr. Sinnett still working for Boeing? I don&#x27;t see how the managers can ride this one out.

So when will travelers have the option to filter the aircraft manufacturer&#x2F;type in flight booking systems?

The CEO of Boeing should go to prison.

Boeing apparently has no idea how to handle a crisis.

Just waiting for the other shoe to drop and for all of these revelations to mean something. Hope it does eventually.

When comparing with the Monsanto&#x2F;Bayer Roundup case, there is a more direct link between what the company has done (or not done) and the death of people. American People died in the second crash, right ? They have a clean shot for suing and getting a billion punitive damage, haven&#x27;t they ?

I wonder what circles of hell is Mr. Sinnett destined to?

now reporters have audio from that meeting: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnn.com&#x2F;2019&#x2F;05&#x2F;15&#x2F;us&#x2F;boeing-737-max-audio-meeting-with-pilots&#x2F;index.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnn.com&#x2F;2019&#x2F;05&#x2F;15&#x2F;us&#x2F;boeing-737-max-audio-meeti...</a>

&quot;You’ve got to understand that our commitment to safety is as great as yours,&quot; Mr. Sinnett said in the meeting.<p>Which is a blatant lie considering they opted to DLC bunch of saftety features.

I know it&#x27;s unlikely cause, America, but I&#x27;d like to see some of these executives tried for criminal negligence. They&#x27;ll most likely just face civil suits and make settlements with passengers&#x2F;pilots families ... which honestly isn&#x27;t enough. Executives need to know fucking up this bad can lean to prison time.

I&#x27;m beginning to wonder if HN is an unwilling part of a disinformation campaign an on 737max? It seems every day now we have a speculative article posted like this.