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8 点作者 Cyndre超过 14 年前

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tptacek超过 14 年前
To summarize a prior discussion:<p>First, read: <a href="http://codahale.com/how-to-safely-store-a-password/" rel="nofollow">http://codahale.com/how-to-safely-store-a-password/</a><p>Next, note that rainbow tables don't enter into the Gawker break; Gawker used DES crypt(3) passwords, which can't readily be "rainbow tabled".<p>Finally, note that if you're going to advocate for a browser authentication change, there are cryptographically sound protocols that have been studied for over a decade that fit the bill far better than half-measures that do nothing but break "rainbow tables". A good one to start reading up on is SRP.
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andrewjshults超过 14 年前
If we take encrypt to mean hash (which is probably what the implementation would most likely mean), this still has the same problem that server-side hashing does. Hashing is fast, GPUs can burn through creating rainbow tables at incredible speed (see <a href="http://stacksmashing.net/2010/11/15/cracking-in-the-cloud-amazons-new-ec2-gpu-instances/" rel="nofollow">http://stacksmashing.net/2010/11/15/cracking-in-the-cloud-am...</a> ). Now if it's talking about implementing bcrypt (<a href="http://codahale.com/how-to-safely-store-a-password/" rel="nofollow">http://codahale.com/how-to-safely-store-a-password/</a>) in the browser that would be a real solution, but them the problem becomes adoption (at which point, you basically need to implement it on the server anyways). Plus, users would need to be signaled that this was a safe password box, vs. an unsafe one (which could easily be spoofed by malicious sites).
rmc超过 14 年前
<i>It would require nothing more then the browsers to implement it in the same way</i><p>Oh dear. That'll never happen (examples: CSS, Html5 video, Javascript), which means this idea is dead in the water.
btn超过 14 年前
Previous discussion (for the article this one is a response to): <a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2000833" rel="nofollow">http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2000833</a>
DjDarkman超过 14 年前
I think this should be server side....