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Outschooling

145 点作者 ctulek将近 6 年前

16 条评论

momokoko将近 6 年前
I think EdTech forgets that student success has much less to do with schooling(home or otherwise). This is why education has bounced from trend to trend over the last 50 years. Because we constantly think we&#x27;ve found a silver bullet, but then after a decade or so, we realize it was once again correlation.<p>If you really look at the data, student outcomes essentially boil down to parents and the students themselves. We&#x27;ve see this with how standardized testing has gone over so poorly. The truth is that, outside of gaming the test system with essentially test prep style cramming, schools really have not been able to make any real meaningful changes to student outcomes.<p>Absolutely, schools can move the needle a bit in either direction, but outside of edge cases, I feel as though it may be a challenge to show the kind of outcome data that makes any EdTech product a must have in US education.
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up_and_up将近 6 年前
My wife are secular homeschoolers and have homeschooled our 3 kids: 10,8,5 for 5 years. We use outschool regularly, its a great platform to introduce random topics. I would invest in it honestly. AMA I guess
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somethoughts将近 6 年前
The one I would be interested in would be &quot;home-after-schooling&quot;. I would love to have more resources to help support K-8 students learn how to do original research for science fairs, MOOCs for non-math subjects and programming. Basically Khan Academy type courses that can enable teaching economics, literature, philosophy to a 12 year old. The interesting non-math stuff for Khan Academy doesn&#x27;t start until 9-12th grade.<p>I&#x27;d be curious as to why there is not an option to watch a recorded version with Outschool.
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GuiA将近 6 年前
Interesting blog post and theory.<p>A core counter argument to their base premise is that learning effectively is done in person, as part of a social group, in a physical space dedicated to learning, with hands on practice. It certainly seems to be the core takeaways of Waldorf&#x2F;Montessori&#x2F;constructionist&#x2F;etc. approaches.<p><i>&gt; When our kids were in school and struggled with a class&#x2F;teacher&#x2F;subject, we would get them a tutor to come to our home in the evenings.</i><p>In other words, there&#x27;s a reason they paid the tutor to come in person, and not tutor over Skype or the phone.<p>The author speaks of their intent being to open up access to education, and replace the &quot;outdated tech&quot; of physical schools and classrooms. I need to be convinced that successful execution of this plan (and its inevitable percolation into policy if it makes financial sense - which I have no doubt it does, for a VC to take interest in it) won&#x27;t result in a two tiered system, with students from poorer families getting free, public education over video lessons, and students from wealthier family being able to attend private, more expensive, in person schooling.
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jaden将近 6 年前
Homeschooling seems like an ideal solution for those with a parent at home to improve their children&#x27;s academic learning. But it&#x27;s concerning that those actively involved parents are removed from the public school system.
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jpm_sd将近 6 年前
Students can also access &quot;real time group classes taught largely by very experienced K12 teachers&quot; by... going to school.
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master-litty将近 6 年前
I interviewed with Outschool a few months ago, happy to see them here!<p>They&#x27;re a wonderful team. I&#x27;ve never seen a group of people with so much positive chemistry before; I&#x27;ve started asking more culture-centered questions in my interviews since then, now that I think about it.<p>I think it&#x27;s the best kind of team to front an educational endeavour and it&#x27;s one big reason I believe in them. It&#x27;s easier to have a healthy classroom environment if the providing workplace is healthy too.
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hoytech将近 6 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;School_of_the_Air" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;School_of_the_Air</a>
iambateman将近 6 年前
In the late 90’s my parents homeschooled me. We had a subscription to a teaching service that broadcast lessons on Satellite at 2am. My parents set the VCR to record each night and then we played the tape back for “class”. Everything was awful. To this day, my understanding of elementary science is a little worse than one would expect because my mom didn’t enjoy teaching science.<p>I’m so glad for advanced services making more forms of schooling possible for people.<p>Just to throw some ice on some of the heat in the comments...<p>- homeschooling isn’t for everyone, but it works wonderfully for some. My sister hated it and I loved it. People are different and need different approaches to learning.<p>- some people who homeschool are religious, and some of them are “fundamentalist”. But most of the people I encountered were simply “religious.” There’s a difference. ;)
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the_watcher将近 6 年前
I&#x27;m slightly torn on models like this. On the one hand, the cost savings and potential to improve outcomes by scaling the impact of the best classes is obviously wildly important. At the same time, it does seem like there is hard to quantify value in the social aspects of a traditional school. As I write this, however, I realize that there are plenty of private and parochial schools where the class sizes are so small that you could probably replicate the social value pretty easily, since you wouldn&#x27;t need too many students in the same place to do things like &quot;class trips&quot;.
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falcor84将近 6 年前
&gt;...students in the US who need to learn things like Algebra, European History, Biology, etc...<p>HN, what&#x27;s your take on the above? Do you believe that there is any particular curriculum of subjects that students &quot;need&quot; to have studied to be prepared for doing well in the world they will be living in?
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jonny_eh将近 6 年前
Hiring a high school student to tutor a kid in math is not a &quot;1%er&quot; solution. Maybe 50%er?
HNLurker2将近 6 年前
This sounds to me like an American problem
carlob将近 6 年前
I think this is going to be very controversial on the typical HN crowd: maybe too European, or too socialist. However here it goes.<p>Some ten years ago I was convinced that private schools had a right to exist, but that they should never impact the funding of public schools, not even indirectly.<p>Then I discovered that homeschooling was a thing in the US.<p>Now I tend to believe that private schools should not be allowed to exist. School is far too important as a social mixer and a way to educate well-rounded citizens to leave it to the whims of parents. Parents already have a large enough impact on their kids, to let them take over 100% of their time.<p>I also strongly believe that parents whose beliefs prevent their kids from getting the medical care they deserve (from refusing transfusions, to refusing vaccines) should get a hard look from social services.<p>In general I don&#x27;t believe that parenthood trumps some things that as a society we consider basic human rights. I think most people would agree with me when it comes down to issues like violence, exploitation and child labor, but I think this should extend to the access to healthcare and to a secular education.
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killjoywashere将近 6 年前
Unless this results in better education outcomes spread across the entire population in the red states, this is effectively a bid to support the Republican agenda. This will follow the same pattern as standardized testing: those with the means will pursue the best investments. Those without will be left behind. And so the cycle of inequality worsens. This is &quot;greed is good&quot; politics.<p>Think about it. If they were serious about education, why are they not investing, Koch-style, in local politics? Why are they not funding candidates who will advocate for stronger school systems, better transportation, school lunches, etc?<p>This has nothing to do with kids. This has everything to do with extracting as much money as possible from the most anxious, which is incidentally the rapidly vanishing elbow of middle class in the ever-steepening power law curve of wealth distribution in the US.
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dnprock将近 6 年前
I think public school system provides a good return for dollars spent. It has the scale that is difficult to match with other schooling methods. This is my experience from shuffling between private preschools. I think other schooling methods are appropriate if your circumstance forces you (e.g. bad public school system.)<p>You can always opt out of the crazy things that happen at public schools. After school, you can homeschool your kids. This way you can get the positives of both systems.<p>Education is complicated. We need to avoid comparing and optimization. It&#x27;s idiotic to make a personal stance in education.